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  • H Hamed Musavi

    Eddy Vluggen wrote:

    It's an evolutionary advantage; maximize your gain, minimize the effort.

    No it's not. Putting burden on others to have a simpler life is not evolutionary, it's actually opposite of that. Part of the limbic system of our brain is responsible for caring about our kind/species. Some worms don't have it and don't care if by moving over their new born children, they even kill some. We aren't like that. If someone is, he has brain issues.

    Planning to move to Germany, looking for a job there!
    Looking for a Windows desktop programmer? I look forward to hearing from you! :-)

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    Lost User
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    Hamed Mosavi wrote:

    No it's not. Putting burden on others to have a simpler life is not evolutionary, it's actually opposite of that.

    Whehe, altruism brings a lot more magic than egotism, you're right there. Still, looks as if those without a consciousness are winning :(

    Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] They hate us for our freedom![^]

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      Hamed Mosavi wrote:

      No it's not. Putting burden on others to have a simpler life is not evolutionary, it's actually opposite of that.

      Whehe, altruism brings a lot more magic than egotism, you're right there. Still, looks as if those without a consciousness are winning :(

      Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] They hate us for our freedom![^]

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      Hamed Musavi
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      Eddy Vluggen wrote:

      Still, looks as if those without a consciousness are winning

      I think winners aren't the most happy or successful among us. I value happiness and success in life, more than winning a lot of money but this is just a personal idea. :-)

      Planning to move to Germany, looking for a job there!
      Looking for a Windows desktop programmer? I look forward to hearing from you! :-)

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      • H Hamed Musavi

        Some people earn money without adding any value to economy. Just wanted to buy a domain name and noticed someone (who already bought over 100 other names) bought it already and now asks for "4 figures" money to give it to others. :-/

        Planning to move to Germany, looking for a job there!
        Looking for a Windows desktop programmer? I look forward to hearing from you! :-)

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        Mark H2
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        Buy low, sell high. Hmmm, sounds like foreign currency trading, share trading and any number of other things in our capitalist economy/society. It ain't new. So why get upset about domain names?

        If your neighbours don't listen to The Ramones, turn it up real loud so they can.

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          Hamed Mosavi wrote:

          Earning money by making life of others worse is a shame, I believe.

          No, it's just capitalism.

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          Upvote (if it were enabled). Couldn't be put more simply or more concisely, so I won't try. Ya chooses yer politics then ya win some then ya lose some, yer just lose different things and win sum uvers...

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          • H Hamed Musavi

            That actually came into my mind too! ;-) My action won't change the reality of this problem in economy and specifically here, in our world.

            Planning to move to Germany, looking for a job there!
            Looking for a Windows desktop programmer? I look forward to hearing from you! :-)

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            RabinDl
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            In fact if everyone had did like you did, this problem wouldn't exist :) Peace:thumbsup:

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            • H Hamed Musavi

              Eddy Vluggen wrote:

              Still, looks as if those without a consciousness are winning

              I think winners aren't the most happy or successful among us. I value happiness and success in life, more than winning a lot of money but this is just a personal idea. :-)

              Planning to move to Germany, looking for a job there!
              Looking for a Windows desktop programmer? I look forward to hearing from you! :-)

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              Lost User
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              Hamed Mosavi wrote:

              I think winners aren't the most happy or successful among us

              Philosophy; what is it that makes us happy, besides the arguments mentioned in Maslovs' pyramid? Aren't we "just animals", deep within? Driven by the four f...'s?

              Hamed Mosavi wrote:

              I value happiness and success in life, more than winning a lot of money but this is just a personal idea. :)

              The theory of evolution says you have to attempt to multiply your DNA as good as posssible. ..but happiness, is simply a cop o' coffee in the morning. Guess it'll depend on your definition of "happiness".

              Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] They hate us for our freedom![^]

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                Upvote (if it were enabled). Couldn't be put more simply or more concisely, so I won't try. Ya chooses yer politics then ya win some then ya lose some, yer just lose different things and win sum uvers...

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                Lost User
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                Mike-MadBadger wrote:

                Ya chooses yer politics then ya win some then ya lose some, yer just lose different things and win sum uvers...

                Yelling about homosexuality outside of a slain soldier's funeral: Free speech: Yes. Arse-hats: Yes. Domain name camping: Capitalism: Yes. Arse-hats: Yes. Telling bad jokes in The Lounge because the voting system is down: Opportunism: Yes. Arse-hats: Jury still out.

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                • H Hamed Musavi

                  Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                  It's an evolutionary advantage; maximize your gain, minimize the effort.

                  No it's not. Putting burden on others to have a simpler life is not evolutionary, it's actually opposite of that. Part of the limbic system of our brain is responsible for caring about our kind/species. Some worms don't have it and don't care if by moving over their new born children, they even kill some. We aren't like that. If someone is, he has brain issues.

                  Planning to move to Germany, looking for a job there!
                  Looking for a Windows desktop programmer? I look forward to hearing from you! :-)

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                  jschell
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                  Hamed Mosavi wrote:

                  No it's not. Putting burden on others to have a simpler life is not evolutionary, it's actually opposite of that.

                  Incorrect.

                  Hamed Mosavi wrote:

                  Part of the limbic system of our brain is responsible for caring about our kind/species

                  How is caring for the species not in fact a gain? And that ignores the fact that it just isn't true. Armies have been killing civilians, including women and children for a long time specifically for gain. Altruism in its modern form it based on plenty. If I have plenty of food (and other life necessities) then I can rationalize giving it away in any way that I want but it doesn't alter the fact that there is only because there is extra that it happens. Other than that theories for genetic altruism are based on the idea that one is protecting the genetic pool by caring for ones children, near relatives and social community. That however is still based on protecting genetics which is a gain.

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                  • H Hamed Musavi

                    Some people earn money without adding any value to economy. Just wanted to buy a domain name and noticed someone (who already bought over 100 other names) bought it already and now asks for "4 figures" money to give it to others. :-/

                    Planning to move to Germany, looking for a job there!
                    Looking for a Windows desktop programmer? I look forward to hearing from you! :-)

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                    jschell
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                    Hamed Mosavi wrote:

                    Just wanted to buy a domain name and noticed someone (who already bought over 100 other names) bought it already and now asks for "4 figures" money to give it to others. :-/

                    Register your business using that name, conduct some commerce using it for a while, and then require them to give it up. See the ICANN rule b-i. http://www.icann.org/en/help/dndr/udrp/policy[^]

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                    • H Hamed Musavi

                      Mladen Janković wrote:

                      So?

                      So, the money they earn is not added to the system, so they are stealing money from others. And so if you are interested, let's discuss it!

                      Planning to move to Germany, looking for a job there!
                      Looking for a Windows desktop programmer? I look forward to hearing from you! :-)

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                      jschell
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                      Hamed Mosavi wrote:

                      So, the money they earn is not added to the system

                      Naturally that statement isn't true. If you pay them for it I am rather certain that it will in some way be used in the economy.

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                      • J jschell

                        Hamed Mosavi wrote:

                        Just wanted to buy a domain name and noticed someone (who already bought over 100 other names) bought it already and now asks for "4 figures" money to give it to others. :-/

                        Register your business using that name, conduct some commerce using it for a while, and then require them to give it up. See the ICANN rule b-i. http://www.icann.org/en/help/dndr/udrp/policy[^]

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                        AspDotNetDev
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                        Not sure that'd apply to a business registered after the domain was originally registered.

                        Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                        • H Hamed Musavi

                          AspDotNetDev wrote:

                          I'm one of those a**holes.

                          No you're not. Based on what you wrote, I'd say you are worried. Although part of this state in my opinion is rooted the real problem of possibility of lack of the right name when you need it, but since you aren't faced with the problem right now, this mindset I believe is nervousness. I too suffer from it. Nervousness, if not fought with, might extend to other areas of life too. ;-)

                          Planning to move to Germany, looking for a job there!
                          Looking for a Windows desktop programmer? I look forward to hearing from you! :-)

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                          Mycroft Holmes
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                          Hamed Mosavi wrote:

                          No you're not

                          Oh yes he is, he is happily sitting on a bunch of names hoping someone will offer a reasonably price for them. While I believe in capitalism I would find it irritating if I wanted a domain with a squatter on it!

                          Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                          • J jschell

                            Hamed Mosavi wrote:

                            So, the money they earn is not added to the system

                            Naturally that statement isn't true. If you pay them for it I am rather certain that it will in some way be used in the economy.

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                            Hamed Musavi
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                            jschell wrote:

                            Naturally

                            You mean economically?

                            jschell wrote:

                            I am rather certain that it will in some way be used in the economy.

                            I'm not sure, even if it does, its' harm is far more than its' "use" in my opinion.

                            Planning to move to Germany, looking for a job there!
                            Looking for a Windows desktop programmer? I look forward to hearing from you! :-)

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                            • L Lost User

                              Hamed Mosavi wrote:

                              I think winners aren't the most happy or successful among us

                              Philosophy; what is it that makes us happy, besides the arguments mentioned in Maslovs' pyramid? Aren't we "just animals", deep within? Driven by the four f...'s?

                              Hamed Mosavi wrote:

                              I value happiness and success in life, more than winning a lot of money but this is just a personal idea. :)

                              The theory of evolution says you have to attempt to multiply your DNA as good as posssible. ..but happiness, is simply a cop o' coffee in the morning. Guess it'll depend on your definition of "happiness".

                              Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] They hate us for our freedom![^]

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                              Hamed Musavi
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                              Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                              Philosophy; what is it that makes us happy,

                              I use my common sense for that and look at it this way: If I sacrifice something in my life, like health (could be mental health) to gain one thing, then I'm a winner but not happy so I no longer call that success. A good example is all the famous and rich actors or singers who commit suicide.

                              Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                              Aren't we "just animals", deep within? Driven by the four f...'s?

                              Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                              but happiness, is simply a cop o' coffee in the morning.

                              Have no idea but people who look for pleasure whole their lives did not become very happy in the end either. (Drug addicts for instance. ;-) )

                              Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                              Guess it'll depend on your definition of "happiness".

                              Maybe, but the cost of trying a wrong theory in this case is a lot, I'd rather think about it through.

                              Planning to move to Germany, looking for a job there!
                              Looking for a Windows desktop programmer? I look forward to hearing from you! :-)

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                              • J jschell

                                Hamed Mosavi wrote:

                                No it's not. Putting burden on others to have a simpler life is not evolutionary, it's actually opposite of that.

                                Incorrect.

                                Hamed Mosavi wrote:

                                Part of the limbic system of our brain is responsible for caring about our kind/species

                                How is caring for the species not in fact a gain? And that ignores the fact that it just isn't true. Armies have been killing civilians, including women and children for a long time specifically for gain. Altruism in its modern form it based on plenty. If I have plenty of food (and other life necessities) then I can rationalize giving it away in any way that I want but it doesn't alter the fact that there is only because there is extra that it happens. Other than that theories for genetic altruism are based on the idea that one is protecting the genetic pool by caring for ones children, near relatives and social community. That however is still based on protecting genetics which is a gain.

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                                Hamed Musavi
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                                jschell wrote:

                                Hamed Mosavi wrote:

                                No it's not. Putting burden on others to have a simpler life is not evolutionary, it's actually opposite of that.

                                Incorrect.

                                You're wrong. It's correct.

                                jschell wrote:

                                Altruism in its modern form it based on plenty.

                                Wrong again. A good example to prove it wrong is when a disaster happens. Some people put their own lives in danger to save others. One such an example is enough to prove this idea is wrong, although there are a lot of such examples and I am sure you've heard, read or probably seen it.

                                jschell wrote:

                                That however is still based on protecting genetics which is a gain.

                                Regardless of the theory that proves people care about each other and reasons for that care, the fact is that they do and if they don't, they are probably not healthy. So again, I believe, if someone is thinking only about his/her gain while that gain puts extra burden and misery on shoulders of others, that is not in line with human nature or evolution and is a problem in economy.

                                Planning to move to Germany, looking for a job there!
                                Looking for a Windows desktop programmer? I look forward to hearing from you! :-)

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                                  In fact if everyone had did like you did, this problem wouldn't exist :) Peace:thumbsup:

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                                  Hamed Musavi
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                                  Maybe. :) Where are '5' buttons of this forum? I used to use them instead of typing 'Agree' or 'Thank you'!

                                  Planning to move to Germany, looking for a job there!
                                  Looking for a Windows desktop programmer? I look forward to hearing from you! :-)

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                                  • A AspDotNetDev

                                    Not sure that'd apply to a business registered after the domain was originally registered.

                                    Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                                    Seems like if you are just sitting on a domain with no use of it except advertising yourself and attempting to sell it to someone who might need it, you're in bad faith, even if you camped it first. It's certainly worth writing to the registrar and asking about it.

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                                    • H Hamed Musavi

                                      Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                                      It's an evolutionary advantage; maximize your gain, minimize the effort.

                                      No it's not. Putting burden on others to have a simpler life is not evolutionary, it's actually opposite of that. Part of the limbic system of our brain is responsible for caring about our kind/species. Some worms don't have it and don't care if by moving over their new born children, they even kill some. We aren't like that. If someone is, he has brain issues.

                                      Planning to move to Germany, looking for a job there!
                                      Looking for a Windows desktop programmer? I look forward to hearing from you! :-)

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                                      Mark_Wallace
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                                      The worm analogy is extremely suitable.

                                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                      • H Hamed Musavi

                                        jschell wrote:

                                        Hamed Mosavi wrote:

                                        No it's not. Putting burden on others to have a simpler life is not evolutionary, it's actually opposite of that.

                                        Incorrect.

                                        You're wrong. It's correct.

                                        jschell wrote:

                                        Altruism in its modern form it based on plenty.

                                        Wrong again. A good example to prove it wrong is when a disaster happens. Some people put their own lives in danger to save others. One such an example is enough to prove this idea is wrong, although there are a lot of such examples and I am sure you've heard, read or probably seen it.

                                        jschell wrote:

                                        That however is still based on protecting genetics which is a gain.

                                        Regardless of the theory that proves people care about each other and reasons for that care, the fact is that they do and if they don't, they are probably not healthy. So again, I believe, if someone is thinking only about his/her gain while that gain puts extra burden and misery on shoulders of others, that is not in line with human nature or evolution and is a problem in economy.

                                        Planning to move to Germany, looking for a job there!
                                        Looking for a Windows desktop programmer? I look forward to hearing from you! :-)

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                                        jschell
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                                        Hamed Mosavi wrote:

                                        Wrong again. A good example to prove it wrong is when a disaster happens. Some people put their own lives in danger to save others. One such an example is enough to prove this idea is wrong, although there are a lot of such examples and I am sure you've heard, read or probably seen it.

                                        People commit suicide every day. People engage in activities that are recognized by almost everyone, including themselves, as being very dangerous and even die from doing it. So based on your reasoning genetically we are predispositioned to kill ourselves before we can propagate. And that obviously contradicts absolutely everything about genetics.

                                        Hamed Mosavi wrote:

                                        and if they don't, they are probably not healthy

                                        Utter nonsense.

                                        Hamed Mosavi wrote:

                                        if someone is thinking only about his/her gain while that gain

                                        No one thinks only about it. Just as no one completely ignores it. For the latter case one only need look to people who feed themselves. Feeding oneself is by its very nature selfish.

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                                        • A AspDotNetDev

                                          Not sure that'd apply to a business registered after the domain was originally registered.

                                          Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                                          AspDotNetDev wrote:

                                          Not sure that'd apply to a business registered after the domain was originally registered.

                                          I suspect it most certainly would if the domain is not being used and never has been.

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