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    Super Lloyd
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    Microsoft is keen and performance and low requirement now.. So I wonder... What if I buy a tablet like that (this price range at least) http://www.mwave.com.au/product/sku-ab47448-asus_vivotab_tf810c1b059w_windows_8_tablet_pc_with_docking_station[^] Except for the ridiculously small screen size, is it usable as (a portable) developement environment, while I'm on holiday for example? Did anyone test? Notice, it's not ARM inside but Intel Atom Z! BTW, what is this N/Z thing? which one is better?

    A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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      Microsoft is keen and performance and low requirement now.. So I wonder... What if I buy a tablet like that (this price range at least) http://www.mwave.com.au/product/sku-ab47448-asus_vivotab_tf810c1b059w_windows_8_tablet_pc_with_docking_station[^] Except for the ridiculously small screen size, is it usable as (a portable) developement environment, while I'm on holiday for example? Did anyone test? Notice, it's not ARM inside but Intel Atom Z! BTW, what is this N/Z thing? which one is better?

      A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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      Super Lloyd wrote:

      Except for the ridiculously small screen size, is it usable as (a portable) developement environment, while I'm on holiday for example?

      no - holidays are not for development work so it would not be useful Bryce

      MCAD --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
      Our kids books :The Snot Goblin, and Book 2 - the Snotgoblin and Fluff The Snotgoblin for the Ipad

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        Microsoft is keen and performance and low requirement now.. So I wonder... What if I buy a tablet like that (this price range at least) http://www.mwave.com.au/product/sku-ab47448-asus_vivotab_tf810c1b059w_windows_8_tablet_pc_with_docking_station[^] Except for the ridiculously small screen size, is it usable as (a portable) developement environment, while I'm on holiday for example? Did anyone test? Notice, it's not ARM inside but Intel Atom Z! BTW, what is this N/Z thing? which one is better?

        A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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        Mycroft Holmes
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        I think it would be perfect for holiday computing, your can check emails do some casual browsing. It won't start your IDE so no development environment - that's what HOLIDAYs are for!

        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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          Super Lloyd wrote:

          Except for the ridiculously small screen size, is it usable as (a portable) developement environment, while I'm on holiday for example?

          no - holidays are not for development work so it would not be useful Bryce

          MCAD --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
          Our kids books :The Snot Goblin, and Book 2 - the Snotgoblin and Fluff The Snotgoblin for the Ipad

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          Super Lloyd
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          All sorted then!! :laugh:

          A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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            I think it would be perfect for holiday computing, your can check emails do some casual browsing. It won't start your IDE so no development environment - that's what HOLIDAYs are for!

            Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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            Super Lloyd
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            But, and I'm only talking hypothetically here, what if I wanted to work on my own top secret project to take over the world in my spare time?

            A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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              But, and I'm only talking hypothetically here, what if I wanted to work on my own top secret project to take over the world in my spare time?

              A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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              Pete OHanlon
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              Megalomaniacs don't take holidays.

              *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

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                But, and I'm only talking hypothetically here, what if I wanted to work on my own top secret project to take over the world in my spare time?

                A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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                Mycroft Holmes
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                Super Lloyd wrote:

                top secret project to take over the world

                Then you need a twisted pinkie, a white cat, a monocle, an evil chuckle and 42. You don't need a tablet, although you should probably keep taking the pills!

                Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                  Super Lloyd wrote:

                  top secret project to take over the world

                  Then you need a twisted pinkie, a white cat, a monocle, an evil chuckle and 42. You don't need a tablet, although you should probably keep taking the pills!

                  Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                  Pete OHanlon
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                  You could have summarised that as "you need to be Donald Pleasance".

                  *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

                  "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                  CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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                    Microsoft is keen and performance and low requirement now.. So I wonder... What if I buy a tablet like that (this price range at least) http://www.mwave.com.au/product/sku-ab47448-asus_vivotab_tf810c1b059w_windows_8_tablet_pc_with_docking_station[^] Except for the ridiculously small screen size, is it usable as (a portable) developement environment, while I'm on holiday for example? Did anyone test? Notice, it's not ARM inside but Intel Atom Z! BTW, what is this N/Z thing? which one is better?

                    A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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                    Pete OHanlon
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                    Well, I am waiting for the Surface Pro so I'm convinced.

                    *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

                    "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                    CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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                      Well, I am waiting for the Surface Pro so I'm convinced.

                      *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

                      "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                      CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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                      Super Lloyd
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                      I think I'll go for a normal intel one instead of an Atom. Price are quite reasonable too!! :)

                      A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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                        Super Lloyd wrote:

                        Except for the ridiculously small screen size, is it usable as (a portable) developement environment, while I'm on holiday for example?

                        no - holidays are not for development work so it would not be useful Bryce

                        MCAD --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
                        Our kids books :The Snot Goblin, and Book 2 - the Snotgoblin and Fluff The Snotgoblin for the Ipad

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                        Adriaan Davel
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                        My thoughts EXACTLY

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                          Microsoft is keen and performance and low requirement now.. So I wonder... What if I buy a tablet like that (this price range at least) http://www.mwave.com.au/product/sku-ab47448-asus_vivotab_tf810c1b059w_windows_8_tablet_pc_with_docking_station[^] Except for the ridiculously small screen size, is it usable as (a portable) developement environment, while I'm on holiday for example? Did anyone test? Notice, it's not ARM inside but Intel Atom Z! BTW, what is this N/Z thing? which one is better?

                          A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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                          My guess: initially you will be a bit unhappy with the Atom processor and the screen resolution, but will adjust the way you work to that and be happy enough later. You will not do enough development to really suffer from the performance degradation caused by the absence of a HDD. If you are also an artist, the stylus will be a killer feature, among other things, killing all the desire to develop on holidays.

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                            Microsoft is keen and performance and low requirement now.. So I wonder... What if I buy a tablet like that (this price range at least) http://www.mwave.com.au/product/sku-ab47448-asus_vivotab_tf810c1b059w_windows_8_tablet_pc_with_docking_station[^] Except for the ridiculously small screen size, is it usable as (a portable) developement environment, while I'm on holiday for example? Did anyone test? Notice, it's not ARM inside but Intel Atom Z! BTW, what is this N/Z thing? which one is better?

                            A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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                            Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                            Best guess: yes, but slowly. It's an x86 device, so can run Visual Studio etc. however, it has an Atom CPU and only 2GB RAM, so will be sluggish. Having said that, from time to time I've run VS2008 on an older Atom based system (a Samsung n120 netbook) so it can't be worse than that. A device with a faster CPU and higher screen resolution (e.g. the Surface Pro, Kupa Ultranote or Samsung ATIV SmartPC Pro) should work far better.

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                              Microsoft is keen and performance and low requirement now.. So I wonder... What if I buy a tablet like that (this price range at least) http://www.mwave.com.au/product/sku-ab47448-asus_vivotab_tf810c1b059w_windows_8_tablet_pc_with_docking_station[^] Except for the ridiculously small screen size, is it usable as (a portable) developement environment, while I'm on holiday for example? Did anyone test? Notice, it's not ARM inside but Intel Atom Z! BTW, what is this N/Z thing? which one is better?

                              A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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                              While Windows RT does lack the ISE, the Powershell is still there. So, I develop in Powershell on it.

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                                Well, I am waiting for the Surface Pro so I'm convinced.

                                *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

                                "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

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                                Clodetta del Mar
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                                well, that is exactly what I wanted to recommend... i´m using the RT and absolutely convinced that the PRO will be the perfect machine to do what ever you want when you´re en route...

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                                  Super Lloyd wrote:

                                  Except for the ridiculously small screen size, is it usable as (a portable) developement environment, while I'm on holiday for example?

                                  no - holidays are not for development work so it would not be useful Bryce

                                  MCAD --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
                                  Our kids books :The Snot Goblin, and Book 2 - the Snotgoblin and Fluff The Snotgoblin for the Ipad

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                                  madwilliamflint
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                                  bryce wrote:

                                  no - holidays are not for development work
                                  so it would not be useful

                                  ...A thousand times this.

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                                    Microsoft is keen and performance and low requirement now.. So I wonder... What if I buy a tablet like that (this price range at least) http://www.mwave.com.au/product/sku-ab47448-asus_vivotab_tf810c1b059w_windows_8_tablet_pc_with_docking_station[^] Except for the ridiculously small screen size, is it usable as (a portable) developement environment, while I'm on holiday for example? Did anyone test? Notice, it's not ARM inside but Intel Atom Z! BTW, what is this N/Z thing? which one is better?

                                    A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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                                    Verma No 1
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                                    I think you must go for Microsoft Surface with windows 8 pro. It has Intel 3rd gen i5, with 4GB RAM. so wait a bit for surface with windows 8 pro.

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                                      Microsoft is keen and performance and low requirement now.. So I wonder... What if I buy a tablet like that (this price range at least) http://www.mwave.com.au/product/sku-ab47448-asus_vivotab_tf810c1b059w_windows_8_tablet_pc_with_docking_station[^] Except for the ridiculously small screen size, is it usable as (a portable) developement environment, while I'm on holiday for example? Did anyone test? Notice, it's not ARM inside but Intel Atom Z! BTW, what is this N/Z thing? which one is better?

                                      A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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                                      RafagaX
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                                      Super Lloyd wrote:

                                      Except for the ridiculously small screen size, is it usable as (a portable) developement environment.

                                      No, it's not. 2GB of RAM is too low for 64 bits Windows, that coupled with the fact that it has an Atom processor will give you a very slow and painful development experience, unless you like to program on Notepad and compile with in the Command Prompt.

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                                        Microsoft is keen and performance and low requirement now.. So I wonder... What if I buy a tablet like that (this price range at least) http://www.mwave.com.au/product/sku-ab47448-asus_vivotab_tf810c1b059w_windows_8_tablet_pc_with_docking_station[^] Except for the ridiculously small screen size, is it usable as (a portable) developement environment, while I'm on holiday for example? Did anyone test? Notice, it's not ARM inside but Intel Atom Z! BTW, what is this N/Z thing? which one is better?

                                        A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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                                        patbob
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                                        Super Lloyd wrote:

                                        Except for the ridiculously small screen size, is it usable as (a portable) developement environment, while I'm on holiday for example?
                                        Did anyone test?

                                        Depends on what you need. If it'll run the IDE, it'll be slow but probably work. If you can refrain from the full Pro version and all the bells, whistles and plugins, then it should work. I've recently been doing some development on VS 2010 a la the C# express version, on my 2005 era 2GB, 2GHz Pentium Mobile something-or-another laptop. That IDE on that laptop is plenty snappy enough for my needs, but I'm not trying to work with the entire code base from work on it. That Atom tablet would probably run rings around my laptop. However, what are you primarily buying the device for? If it has to be a portable workstation, then nix the tablet and buy a portable workstation.

                                        We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.

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                                          Super Lloyd wrote:

                                          Except for the ridiculously small screen size, is it usable as (a portable) developement environment, while I'm on holiday for example?
                                          Did anyone test?

                                          Depends on what you need. If it'll run the IDE, it'll be slow but probably work. If you can refrain from the full Pro version and all the bells, whistles and plugins, then it should work. I've recently been doing some development on VS 2010 a la the C# express version, on my 2005 era 2GB, 2GHz Pentium Mobile something-or-another laptop. That IDE on that laptop is plenty snappy enough for my needs, but I'm not trying to work with the entire code base from work on it. That Atom tablet would probably run rings around my laptop. However, what are you primarily buying the device for? If it has to be a portable workstation, then nix the tablet and buy a portable workstation.

                                          We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.

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                                          I was thinking to buy it for me, to test my home win8 projects. And I was also wondering if I can continue working on my home project wit it while travelling! But I saw for $300 more dollars I can get an intel i5. Will probably wait next year for when it is even cheaper and go for that (+ I'm not doing much home development right now)

                                          A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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