Easter Eggs
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I don't do it anymore (did it only couple of times). First, I hate any sequence of bytes that makes application bigger. I can spend a day trying to figure out how to make a program files smaller, so reserving extra space for easter eggs does not make me feel good. Second, if I have free programming time now, I try to spend it on writing unit tests. IMO, there are more interesting things than easter eggs. Вагиф Абилов MCP (Visual C++) Oslo, Norway Hex is for sissies. Real men use binary. And the most hardcore types use only zeros - uppercase zeros and lowercase zeros. Tomasz Sowinski
Vagif Abilov wrote: I don't do it anymore (did it only couple of times). First, I hate any sequence of bytes that makes application bigger. I can spend a day trying to figure out how to make a program files smaller, so reserving extra space for easter eggs does not make me feel good Damn straight! With only 640k of available mem we need every bit we can scrounge! And with those 720k floppies one really has to work hard at apps... Vagif Abilov wrote: Second, if I have free programming time now, I try to spend it on writing unit tests. IMO, there are more interesting things than easter eggs Vagif. All work and no play makes Abilov a dull developer. :)
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRoger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!
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Rama Krishna wrote: If it is a commercial app then the answer is no. I agree. In my early years (in US) of coding I did that mistake. At the end of my project I included a nice easter eggs in big banking application. Some how the testers came to know about it. The rest of the story you can guess it. :( Cricket World Cup [^] First Match South Africa vs West Indies Feb 9th 2003 Match begins at 06:15AM EST
You should've put in nice credits for the testers - that'd stop them complaining :) -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!
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I am nearing completion of a project and have been toying with the idea of including an easter egg in my software to give name credit to the developers. I don't own the software, but I don't think that the people I work for have a rule against it. What is your opinion? Do any of you do this? Gary Kirkham A working Program is one that has only unobserved bugs I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted paychecks
Gary Kirkham wrote: I work for have a rule against it. What is your opinion? Do any of you do this? Obviously if your work has a rule against it, then don't, and don't think you can slip it by. If there is no rule and you have some time to kill, go for it I say. Don't make it offensive or too big though, people need to see the lighter side of it. I have made a few for websites. Bit harder to hide but I normally link it to some obscure IIS error. :) And sorry, but talk about a bunch of No Fun Decafinated Low Fat serious people. Unit testing? More "appropriate" work? A security threat? WTF? Where has the fun and joy of it all gone to? Sound like wannabe managers to me ;) If your product is stable and you need to push back and relax then putting in an easter egg is damned fun. Good for morale, makes people laugh and is not some kind of serious threat to your code, really. Relax people.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRoger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!
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Gary Kirkham wrote: I am nearing completion of a project What!?! How can you say you're nearing completion if you haven't done the easter egg yet? Here is correct order for project planning: 1. Decide on project name 2. Implement easter egg 3. Do rest of project crap
Hans Dietrich wrote: 1. Decide on project name 2. Implement easter egg 3. Do rest of project crap :-D The life we dream of!
Throw in a bit of S&M or eye-ball sucking**-Paul Watson on the merits of swearing, sex and obscenities in CP posts** ...they assumed that reasonably intelligent adults would know enough to leave the building if it was burning. Those who did not were, presumably, expendable, and there was less paperwork involved than trying to fire them**-Roger Wright on fire drills at work**
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It's all well and good until a tester finds it and starts reporting bugs in it. :-O Michael The avalanche has started, it's too late for the pebbles to vote.
Michael P Butler wrote: It's all well and good until a tester finds it and starts reporting bugs in it. That must have been a Priority One Humour Alert Warning tester. He needs ten hours of Black Adder therapy I reckon. But then I have had back an alpha-testing report with this gem: "The site was never meant to have multiple languages. Yet on page profile.asp all the content is in Latin. Sample to follow: 'Ipsum lorem...'"* That had me laughing for a good few days. * If you don't get it, don't worry. The text 'Ipsum lorem...' is common filler text used on websites and graphic designs when no real content is available.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRoger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!
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Rama Krishna wrote: If it is a commercial app then the answer is no. I agree. In my early years (in US) of coding I did that mistake. At the end of my project I included a nice easter eggs in big banking application. Some how the testers came to know about it. The rest of the story you can guess it. :( Cricket World Cup [^] First Match South Africa vs West Indies Feb 9th 2003 Match begins at 06:15AM EST
Damn bankers have no sense of humor anyway. This is an engineering app...they tend to have a sense of humor, even if it is warped. :) Gary Kirkham A working Program is one that has only unobserved bugs I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted paychecks
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Vagif Abilov wrote: I don't do it anymore (did it only couple of times). First, I hate any sequence of bytes that makes application bigger. I can spend a day trying to figure out how to make a program files smaller, so reserving extra space for easter eggs does not make me feel good Damn straight! With only 640k of available mem we need every bit we can scrounge! And with those 720k floppies one really has to work hard at apps... Vagif Abilov wrote: Second, if I have free programming time now, I try to spend it on writing unit tests. IMO, there are more interesting things than easter eggs Vagif. All work and no play makes Abilov a dull developer. :)
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRoger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!
Paul Watson wrote: Vagif. All work and no play makes Abilov a dull developer. Yes, but all work and no play makes Abilov look like a serious programmer, and will be perhaps the first one to receive a raise. :) -- "It is amazing how f-ing crazy I really am."
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Gary Kirkham wrote: I work for have a rule against it. What is your opinion? Do any of you do this? Obviously if your work has a rule against it, then don't, and don't think you can slip it by. If there is no rule and you have some time to kill, go for it I say. Don't make it offensive or too big though, people need to see the lighter side of it. I have made a few for websites. Bit harder to hide but I normally link it to some obscure IIS error. :) And sorry, but talk about a bunch of No Fun Decafinated Low Fat serious people. Unit testing? More "appropriate" work? A security threat? WTF? Where has the fun and joy of it all gone to? Sound like wannabe managers to me ;) If your product is stable and you need to push back and relax then putting in an easter egg is damned fun. Good for morale, makes people laugh and is not some kind of serious threat to your code, really. Relax people.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRoger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!
Paul Watson wrote: Low Fat serious people:) I am on a low fat diet an it is about to kill me...My dam cholesterol is at 140, so at least my doctor doesn't bitch at me any more. Gary Kirkham A working Program is one that has only unobserved bugs I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted paychecks
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Paul Watson wrote: Low Fat serious people:) I am on a low fat diet an it is about to kill me...My dam cholesterol is at 140, so at least my doctor doesn't bitch at me any more. Gary Kirkham A working Program is one that has only unobserved bugs I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted paychecks
Gary Kirkham wrote: I am on a low fat diet an it is about to kill me...My dam cholesterol is at 140, so at least my doctor doesn't bitch at me any more. Ouch, I will probably get their one day, not a very healthy eater, just eat what I like. But at Seattle Coffee Company shops (owned by Starbucks now) they actually have a No Fun coffee. Basically it is no caffeine, no fat, no cream and no sugar. i.e. No fun at all. I always have a laugh at that.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRoger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!
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You should've put in nice credits for the testers - that'd stop them complaining :) -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!
benjymous wrote: You should've put in nice credits for the testers - that'd stop them complaining I have included all the testers names.. The total project team includes around 150 people. Cricket World Cup [^] First Match South Africa vs West Indies Feb 9th 2003 Match begins at 06:15AM EST
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Rama Krishna wrote: If it is a commercial app then the answer is no. I agree. In my early years (in US) of coding I did that mistake. At the end of my project I included a nice easter eggs in big banking application. Some how the testers came to know about it. The rest of the story you can guess it. :( Cricket World Cup [^] First Match South Africa vs West Indies Feb 9th 2003 Match begins at 06:15AM EST
Kant wrote: Some how the testers came to know about it. Maybe, testing the application? :) I see dumb people
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I am nearing completion of a project and have been toying with the idea of including an easter egg in my software to give name credit to the developers. I don't own the software, but I don't think that the people I work for have a rule against it. What is your opinion? Do any of you do this? Gary Kirkham A working Program is one that has only unobserved bugs I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted paychecks
Gary Kirkham wrote: but I don't think that the people I work for have a rule against it Yes they do! The rules are professionalism and ethics. How would you like it if you bought a bag of concrete and the people filling the bags thought it would be cool if they put in some cherrios? Grow up! -dork
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Michael P Butler wrote: It's all well and good until a tester finds it and starts reporting bugs in it. That must have been a Priority One Humour Alert Warning tester. He needs ten hours of Black Adder therapy I reckon. But then I have had back an alpha-testing report with this gem: "The site was never meant to have multiple languages. Yet on page profile.asp all the content is in Latin. Sample to follow: 'Ipsum lorem...'"* That had me laughing for a good few days. * If you don't get it, don't worry. The text 'Ipsum lorem...' is common filler text used on websites and graphic designs when no real content is available.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRoger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!
he was right though, as its actually meant to be "lorem ipsum..." :-D
"When the only tool you have is a hammer, a sore thumb you will have."
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Damn bankers have no sense of humor anyway. This is an engineering app...they tend to have a sense of humor, even if it is warped. :) Gary Kirkham A working Program is one that has only unobserved bugs I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted paychecks
Gary Kirkham wrote: Damn bankers have no sense of humor anyway. This is an engineering app...they tend to have a sense of humor, even if it is warped. I actually the application got shortcut key to dump the current object state into a text file. (different story) That shortcut is Ctrl + Shift + D Where as my shortcut for the Easter Egg is Ctrl + Shift + B. So to test other key combinations, he randomly entered all the alphabets to see what happens. Bingo. He caught me when he hit Ctrl + Shift + B keys ;P Cricket World Cup [^] First Match South Africa vs West Indies Feb 9th 2003 Match begins at 06:15AM EST
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Kant wrote: Some how the testers came to know about it. Maybe, testing the application? :) I see dumb people
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Paul Watson wrote: Vagif. All work and no play makes Abilov a dull developer. Yes, but all work and no play makes Abilov look like a serious programmer, and will be perhaps the first one to receive a raise. :) -- "It is amazing how f-ing crazy I really am."
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Yes, but all work and no play makes Abilov look like a serious programmer, and will be perhaps the first one to receive a raise And get people trying to poach him with great job offers, but he's been caught in the lounge chatting about easter eggs. :laugh: It is Friday though so I'll let him off.
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Gary Kirkham wrote: but I don't think that the people I work for have a rule against it Yes they do! The rules are professionalism and ethics. How would you like it if you bought a bag of concrete and the people filling the bags thought it would be cool if they put in some cherrios? Grow up! -dork
dorkshoe wrote: Yes they do! The rules are professionalism and ethics. So why do TV/Movie makers get to put their names all over the credits then? One rule for one, one rule for all. Roger Allen Sonork 100.10016 WHats brown and sticky? A stick or some smelly stuff!
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dorkshoe wrote: Yes they do! The rules are professionalism and ethics. So why do TV/Movie makers get to put their names all over the credits then? One rule for one, one rule for all. Roger Allen Sonork 100.10016 WHats brown and sticky? A stick or some smelly stuff!
Roger Allen wrote: So why do TV/Movie makers get to put their names all over the credits then? Because it is an accepted (and necessary) part of the entertainment industry. Almost everyone involved in the entertainment industry works as a single unit, shuffling between companies, and working to "make a name" for themselves. Movies/TV rely on big NAME actors to promote and make the successful. This is not the case for most software. When a company puts out a product, that product is from THE COMPANY, not each individual working for the company. Your credit is in the fact that you produced a final pruduct with a group of people. Besides, when is the last time you saw an easter eggs in a movie? Go take an ethics class and read your companies code of conduct and mission statements. -dork
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Roger Allen wrote: So why do TV/Movie makers get to put their names all over the credits then? Because it is an accepted (and necessary) part of the entertainment industry. Almost everyone involved in the entertainment industry works as a single unit, shuffling between companies, and working to "make a name" for themselves. Movies/TV rely on big NAME actors to promote and make the successful. This is not the case for most software. When a company puts out a product, that product is from THE COMPANY, not each individual working for the company. Your credit is in the fact that you produced a final pruduct with a group of people. Besides, when is the last time you saw an easter eggs in a movie? Go take an ethics class and read your companies code of conduct and mission statements. -dork
maybe we should all pitch in and make a reality show about software development :-D My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers
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Vagif Abilov wrote: I don't do it anymore (did it only couple of times). First, I hate any sequence of bytes that makes application bigger. I can spend a day trying to figure out how to make a program files smaller, so reserving extra space for easter eggs does not make me feel good Damn straight! With only 640k of available mem we need every bit we can scrounge! And with those 720k floppies one really has to work hard at apps... Vagif Abilov wrote: Second, if I have free programming time now, I try to spend it on writing unit tests. IMO, there are more interesting things than easter eggs Vagif. All work and no play makes Abilov a dull developer. :)
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaRoger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!
Paul Watson wrote: And with those 720k floppies... 720K? Luxury! Real programmers work with single-sided floppies :) All work and no play makes Abilov a dull developer. It was so true until this week, when my colleague broght in our office his XBox ;P Вагиф Абилов MCP (Visual C++) Oslo, Norway Hex is for sissies. Real men use binary. And the most hardcore types use only zeros - uppercase zeros and lowercase zeros. Tomasz Sowinski