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    Huzifa Terkawi
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    if you are about to start a new software company , what would your company internal law look like ? any hint will highly appreciated :) thanks

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      if you are about to start a new software company , what would your company internal law look like ? any hint will highly appreciated :) thanks

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      Super Lloyd
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      internal law? what is that?

      A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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        if you are about to start a new software company , what would your company internal law look like ? any hint will highly appreciated :) thanks

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        SockPuppeteer
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        Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's ASPx

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          internal law? what is that?

          A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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          Huzifa Terkawi
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          it mean general behavior and moral of your programmer employee inside your company , how they give notice and quit , adequate internet usage , and stuff like that .

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            if you are about to start a new software company , what would your company internal law look like ? any hint will highly appreciated :) thanks

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            PraneethNSubasekara
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            Well in my experiance, programmers have a pretty stressful life. Its is essenstial to give them adequet freedom in their workplace (not too much). Most sufable content should be monitored this is done with interest on the employees behalf and the companies behalf. The employee, because restricting access to social networking sites will definitly show a boost in effeciency and performance in the work they do. The company aspect is that its preferable that employess dont missuse company bandwidth for personal tasks. When it comes to worklife balance, flexi work hours should be naturally considered as this is a key aspect many employees look for in a software company. It would help them gain the work life balance they need. (Dont restrict listening to music while working) most programmers work better while blasting some tunes in their ears :) !!!!

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              Well in my experiance, programmers have a pretty stressful life. Its is essenstial to give them adequet freedom in their workplace (not too much). Most sufable content should be monitored this is done with interest on the employees behalf and the companies behalf. The employee, because restricting access to social networking sites will definitly show a boost in effeciency and performance in the work they do. The company aspect is that its preferable that employess dont missuse company bandwidth for personal tasks. When it comes to worklife balance, flexi work hours should be naturally considered as this is a key aspect many employees look for in a software company. It would help them gain the work life balance they need. (Dont restrict listening to music while working) most programmers work better while blasting some tunes in their ears :) !!!!

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              PraneethNSubasekara wrote:

              Dont restrict listening to music while working

              Wow I never considered a company would want to do that! I imagine the same attitude would supply nice open plan benches to work on. There door, the door, wheres the door, I'm outta here!

              Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                PraneethNSubasekara wrote:

                Dont restrict listening to music while working

                Wow I never considered a company would want to do that! I imagine the same attitude would supply nice open plan benches to work on. There door, the door, wheres the door, I'm outta here!

                Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                Well true enough its hard to imagine, but when it comes to companies run by a older generation they do consider listening to music a waste of time.

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                  Well true enough its hard to imagine, but when it comes to companies run by a older generation they do consider listening to music a waste of time.

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                  PraneethNSubasekara wrote:

                  by a older generation

                  Not where I have worked, I AM the older generation and it never even occurred to me! I think you must have worked for an arsehole rather than an generational thing.

                  Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                    PraneethNSubasekara wrote:

                    by a older generation

                    Not where I have worked, I AM the older generation and it never even occurred to me! I think you must have worked for an arsehole rather than an generational thing.

                    Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                    hahah LOL not that I'm talking with experiance but I've actually met HR managers who do consider that music in their companies is doing harm rather than good.

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                      if you are about to start a new software company , what would your company internal law look like ? any hint will highly appreciated :) thanks

                      huzifa

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                      Now I know what you mean by internal law... As relaxed as possible, with the understanding that everyone has work assigned to them, and are expected to finish it on or ahead of schedule, or shout REAL EARLY if they have an issue. This should be easy to monitor if you are using agile (as you should find out from the scrum meetings) So, if a dev has a task to do that is estimated by consensus to be about a two day job - if (s)he wants to spend one day chilling and the next working like a dog, into the evening, to finish on time, then that should be fine. Similarly if he finishes a day early it should be acceptable for them to 'slack off a bit' (after all, the alternative is rewarding finishing ahead of schedule with more work to do!) in my experience, the good devs will not take advantage ( by overestimating and then cruising) and, when all is done, you (the company) want the job done to schedule - and as long as it is, I'd leave everything as loose as possible. The only caveats to all of that is the expectations should be well understood - you consistently under-perform, you're out. - you will be present at the office for meetings/discussions when requested (with sufficient notice) so if they work from 11-7 they may have to come in occasionally at 9 for a meeting. I would also expect all employees to ensure I am kept caffeinated at all times.

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                        PraneethNSubasekara wrote:

                        Dont restrict listening to music while working

                        Wow I never considered a company would want to do that! I imagine the same attitude would supply nice open plan benches to work on. There door, the door, wheres the door, I'm outta here!

                        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                        Only time I've seen something like that is when another manager emailed a bunch of people asking everybody to stop using Pandora, as that was slowing down the internet for others. Wasn't a problem for me, as I stream via my phone anyway. Though, they are getting pretty annoying as of late. When I visit YouTube, I get a "we're watching you" guilt message saying "hey, you can visit this website, but it takes a lot of bandwidth, and we'll nag you again in an hour." And all of the videos on our website are hosted on YouTube, and I can't seem to get past that guilt message when the video is inline. Because I totally needed another barrier to doing my job. :doh:

                        Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                          hahah LOL not that I'm talking with experiance but I've actually met HR managers who do consider that music in their companies is doing harm rather than good.

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                          PraneethNSubasekara wrote:

                          HR managers

                          Okay that explains it, HR are a bunch of anally retentive, brain dead, vacuous idiots who are a complete PITA, and no I'm not prejudiced, that is fair and balanced assessment of HR, and their managers are the worst of the lot!

                          Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                            Only time I've seen something like that is when another manager emailed a bunch of people asking everybody to stop using Pandora, as that was slowing down the internet for others. Wasn't a problem for me, as I stream via my phone anyway. Though, they are getting pretty annoying as of late. When I visit YouTube, I get a "we're watching you" guilt message saying "hey, you can visit this website, but it takes a lot of bandwidth, and we'll nag you again in an hour." And all of the videos on our website are hosted on YouTube, and I can't seem to get past that guilt message when the video is inline. Because I totally needed another barrier to doing my job. :doh:

                            Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                            As we don't host anything on youtube our net nazi feels justified in banning the site, along with any other social media and all blogs, we had to fight the blog lock.

                            Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                              PraneethNSubasekara wrote:

                              HR managers

                              Okay that explains it, HR are a bunch of anally retentive, brain dead, vacuous idiots who are a complete PITA, and no I'm not prejudiced, that is fair and balanced assessment of HR, and their managers are the worst of the lot!

                              Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                              Hey! come on! Be fair. Oh, wait a minute - you are being fair.

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                                if you are about to start a new software company , what would your company internal law look like ? any hint will highly appreciated :) thanks

                                huzifa

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                                devvvy
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                                Internal Law - wtf? your majesty royal arseness you would like your *underling* to serve you like a King don't you. I treat even my domestic helper with respect and I don't write little red book what's permitted and what's not. where the hell do you come from man?

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                                  Internal Law - wtf? your majesty royal arseness you would like your *underling* to serve you like a King don't you. I treat even my domestic helper with respect and I don't write little red book what's permitted and what's not. where the hell do you come from man?

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                                  Wow! who got up your chuff this morning!

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                                    As we don't host anything on youtube our net nazi feels justified in banning the site, along with any other social media and all blogs, we had to fight the blog lock.

                                    Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                    AspDotNetDev
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                                    Surely that entitles you to a company-paid subscription to Lynda.com and various other video learning resources, since you can't access the free resource that is YouTube, correct? :-D

                                    Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                                      Surely that entitles you to a company-paid subscription to Lynda.com and various other video learning resources, since you can't access the free resource that is YouTube, correct? :-D

                                      Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                                      Mycroft Holmes
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                                      I'm chicken I'll wait till I get home to find out what Lynda.com is :-D !

                                      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                        I'm chicken I'll wait till I get home to find out what Lynda.com is :-D !

                                        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                        :laugh: It's nothing you would have worked on in the past (assuming I'm remembering your "interesting" past correctly). It's a professional learning site. Their main thing is high quality videos that teach you various software products (e.g., all the Adobe stuff, such as Photoshop). They also have files to download (like Code Project) and transcripts (in case you want to search for text that was spoken in the video). If I had more time, I'd be on there constantly.

                                        Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                                          Internal Law - wtf? your majesty royal arseness you would like your *underling* to serve you like a King don't you. I treat even my domestic helper with respect and I don't write little red book what's permitted and what's not. where the hell do you come from man?

                                          dev

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                                          Getting up on the wrong side of the bed? You need to chill, man! ;P Either that or you have a very high spec for your sense of humour that it all flew over our heads... Anyway, what the OP means by "law", I think, are company rules. I don't think he wants to play being a tyrant but wants to make it clear what time his employees should turn up for work and how they get paid etc.

                                          Almost, but not quite, entirely unlike... me...

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