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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    Christmas!

    If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.

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      My Windows 7 machine has a fairly good processor and enough memory. It cold boots in less than a minute. But from this moment, it takes it from 5 minutes to reach full reactiveness. Yes, I said 5 minutes. I mean before it responds to a single click in less than, say 30 seconds ! Yes, I said 30 seconds. The interesting thing is that when I look at the performance meter, the PC is essentially... idle, close to 0% CPU all that time. So what the hell is it waiting for ?? [Don't misunderstand me, I am not looking for a solution. I have been amazed (if not irked) by this behavior since years, through the different versions of Windows. Seems to be a chronic disease.]

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      A million services that all want to start at startup because they all think they're important (when in reality you need maybe 10% of them) and a fair number of auto-updaters (of which you need zero). They'll all be 100MB+ because no one knows how write non-bloated code anymore and they'll be loaded simultaneously in order to create extra seek latency.

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        A million services that all want to start at startup because they all think they're important (when in reality you need maybe 10% of them) and a fair number of auto-updaters (of which you need zero). They'll all be 100MB+ because no one knows how write non-bloated code anymore and they'll be loaded simultaneously in order to create extra seek latency.

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        Right, my machine is currently hosting 115 services and the same number of processes. They must be waiting for a President to be elected among them...

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        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

          Christmas!

          If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.

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          cool!!

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          • Y YvesDaoust

            My Windows 7 machine has a fairly good processor and enough memory. It cold boots in less than a minute. But from this moment, it takes it from 5 minutes to reach full reactiveness. Yes, I said 5 minutes. I mean before it responds to a single click in less than, say 30 seconds ! Yes, I said 30 seconds. The interesting thing is that when I look at the performance meter, the PC is essentially... idle, close to 0% CPU all that time. So what the hell is it waiting for ?? [Don't misunderstand me, I am not looking for a solution. I have been amazed (if not irked) by this behavior since years, through the different versions of Windows. Seems to be a chronic disease.]

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            PIEBALDconsult
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            Meanwhile, the computer is sitting there thinking, "why does he want me to load all this crap?"

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            • Y YvesDaoust

              My Windows 7 machine has a fairly good processor and enough memory. It cold boots in less than a minute. But from this moment, it takes it from 5 minutes to reach full reactiveness. Yes, I said 5 minutes. I mean before it responds to a single click in less than, say 30 seconds ! Yes, I said 30 seconds. The interesting thing is that when I look at the performance meter, the PC is essentially... idle, close to 0% CPU all that time. So what the hell is it waiting for ?? [Don't misunderstand me, I am not looking for a solution. I have been amazed (if not irked) by this behavior since years, through the different versions of Windows. Seems to be a chronic disease.]

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              Dan Neely
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              check disk io levels. work nukes my post login performance that way.

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              • L Lost User

                A million services that all want to start at startup because they all think they're important (when in reality you need maybe 10% of them) and a fair number of auto-updaters (of which you need zero). They'll all be 100MB+ because no one knows how write non-bloated code anymore and they'll be loaded simultaneously in order to create extra seek latency.

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                harold aptroot wrote:

                A million services that all want to start at startup..

                To be fair it is probably 50 services and 950,000 applications the user chooses to have ready to go.

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                • Y YvesDaoust

                  Right, my machine is currently hosting 115 services and the same number of processes. They must be waiting for a President to be elected among them...

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                  :laugh: +5 :thumbsup:

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                  • Y YvesDaoust

                    My Windows 7 machine has a fairly good processor and enough memory. It cold boots in less than a minute. But from this moment, it takes it from 5 minutes to reach full reactiveness. Yes, I said 5 minutes. I mean before it responds to a single click in less than, say 30 seconds ! Yes, I said 30 seconds. The interesting thing is that when I look at the performance meter, the PC is essentially... idle, close to 0% CPU all that time. So what the hell is it waiting for ?? [Don't misunderstand me, I am not looking for a solution. I have been amazed (if not irked) by this behavior since years, through the different versions of Windows. Seems to be a chronic disease.]

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                    1. check your startup , is there any thing new 2) start , Run (window + R) ----> type msconfig -----> goto Startup tab , untick what ever you dont need at startup 3). Stop unnecessary service like windows media player network sharing service etc.

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                      Meanwhile, the computer is sitting there thinking, "why does he want me to load all this crap?"

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                      Mycroft Holmes
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                      Nah it sitting there thinking "Well come on dipstik, I've loaded all this crap for you do something!"

                      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                      • Y YvesDaoust

                        My Windows 7 machine has a fairly good processor and enough memory. It cold boots in less than a minute. But from this moment, it takes it from 5 minutes to reach full reactiveness. Yes, I said 5 minutes. I mean before it responds to a single click in less than, say 30 seconds ! Yes, I said 30 seconds. The interesting thing is that when I look at the performance meter, the PC is essentially... idle, close to 0% CPU all that time. So what the hell is it waiting for ?? [Don't misunderstand me, I am not looking for a solution. I have been amazed (if not irked) by this behavior since years, through the different versions of Windows. Seems to be a chronic disease.]

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                        Lost User
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                        Just wait and be patient, this will be ok. ________________ tablet pc

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                          harold aptroot wrote:

                          A million services that all want to start at startup..

                          To be fair it is probably 50 services and 950,000 applications the user chooses to have ready to go.

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                          Maybe. I've noticed that programs decide that for you, instead of asking for your input on the matter. After all, they're the most important program ever, right? Java Quick Starter I'm looking at you.

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                            My Windows 7 machine has a fairly good processor and enough memory. It cold boots in less than a minute. But from this moment, it takes it from 5 minutes to reach full reactiveness. Yes, I said 5 minutes. I mean before it responds to a single click in less than, say 30 seconds ! Yes, I said 30 seconds. The interesting thing is that when I look at the performance meter, the PC is essentially... idle, close to 0% CPU all that time. So what the hell is it waiting for ?? [Don't misunderstand me, I am not looking for a solution. I have been amazed (if not irked) by this behavior since years, through the different versions of Windows. Seems to be a chronic disease.]

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                            Super Lloyd
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                            Geez man, what can I say, since I have an SSD and Windows 8, my machine goes from cold boot to ready to use in 9 seconds! I found that slow too! ;P

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                              My Windows 7 machine has a fairly good processor and enough memory. It cold boots in less than a minute. But from this moment, it takes it from 5 minutes to reach full reactiveness. Yes, I said 5 minutes. I mean before it responds to a single click in less than, say 30 seconds ! Yes, I said 30 seconds. The interesting thing is that when I look at the performance meter, the PC is essentially... idle, close to 0% CPU all that time. So what the hell is it waiting for ?? [Don't misunderstand me, I am not looking for a solution. I have been amazed (if not irked) by this behavior since years, through the different versions of Windows. Seems to be a chronic disease.]

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                              Merry Xmas, YvesDaoust, In addition to inspecting, and possibly turning off, start-up programs/services, you might also consider: 1. defragment your hard drive, if you have not done that already: if you have, and that makes no difference in boot-time, proceed to step #2. I use Puran Defrag (free version) to defragment about once every ten days to three weeks. 2. and/or: open your 'Computer folder: right-click on your boot-drive, open the Properties Tab: open the Tools Tab: click the 'Check Now' button: check both "Automatically fix file system errors," and "Scan for and attempt recovery of bad sectors." Then re-boot, and be prepared to wait a long time while the boot drive is scanned for bad sectors, and (hopefully) any bad-sectors are "fixed." An alternate to #2: using sfc /scannow from a command prompt: see: [^]. yrs, Bill

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                                My Windows 7 machine has a fairly good processor and enough memory. It cold boots in less than a minute. But from this moment, it takes it from 5 minutes to reach full reactiveness. Yes, I said 5 minutes. I mean before it responds to a single click in less than, say 30 seconds ! Yes, I said 30 seconds. The interesting thing is that when I look at the performance meter, the PC is essentially... idle, close to 0% CPU all that time. So what the hell is it waiting for ?? [Don't misunderstand me, I am not looking for a solution. I have been amazed (if not irked) by this behavior since years, through the different versions of Windows. Seems to be a chronic disease.]

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                                Mark_Wallace
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                                Try this[^]. It shows you all the programs that start with your computer, along with how much time they take, and lets you either stop them from starting, or delay their starting until the computer is idle.

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                                • Y YvesDaoust

                                  My Windows 7 machine has a fairly good processor and enough memory. It cold boots in less than a minute. But from this moment, it takes it from 5 minutes to reach full reactiveness. Yes, I said 5 minutes. I mean before it responds to a single click in less than, say 30 seconds ! Yes, I said 30 seconds. The interesting thing is that when I look at the performance meter, the PC is essentially... idle, close to 0% CPU all that time. So what the hell is it waiting for ?? [Don't misunderstand me, I am not looking for a solution. I have been amazed (if not irked) by this behavior since years, through the different versions of Windows. Seems to be a chronic disease.]

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                                  leppie
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                                  Problem: You dont have a SSD ;p Solution: Get one. Even 128GB is enough for OS/apps.

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                                  • Y YvesDaoust

                                    My Windows 7 machine has a fairly good processor and enough memory. It cold boots in less than a minute. But from this moment, it takes it from 5 minutes to reach full reactiveness. Yes, I said 5 minutes. I mean before it responds to a single click in less than, say 30 seconds ! Yes, I said 30 seconds. The interesting thing is that when I look at the performance meter, the PC is essentially... idle, close to 0% CPU all that time. So what the hell is it waiting for ?? [Don't misunderstand me, I am not looking for a solution. I have been amazed (if not irked) by this behavior since years, through the different versions of Windows. Seems to be a chronic disease.]

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                                    Ravi Bhavnani
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                                    Is it running an app on startup that wants to make a network connection (to an unresponsive site)? /ravi

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                                      Just wait and be patient, this will be ok. ________________ tablet pc

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                                      YvesDaoust
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                                      Sorry, I don't want to. I consider this as a pathological behavior that needs to be denounced. A personal computer should have same or better reactivity as a laundry machine. (So far they needn't boot, let us cross fingers.)

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                                      • J jschell

                                        harold aptroot wrote:

                                        A million services that all want to start at startup..

                                        To be fair it is probably 50 services and 950,000 applications the user chooses to have ready to go.

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                                        YvesDaoust
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                                        I don't agree with that. Applications are just passive files and do no harm at boot time.

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                                        • R Ravi Bhavnani

                                          Is it running an app on startup that wants to make a network connection (to an unresponsive site)? /ravi

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                                          YvesDaoust
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                                          This is possible, who knows what is going on under the hood ? Anyway there is no reason why an application should block others, and in particular system processes.

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