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    Alan Burkhart
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    For years I've been using various freeware apps for graphics (and just about everything else). And while the results were mostly good, on occasion something would go totally awry and reduce a graphics project to smoldering pixels (like the massive memory leak in Photo Pos Pro). Yesterday I actually paid money for Paint Shop Pro X5 Ultimate[^]. Good God. What I've been missing. :omg:

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      For years I've been using various freeware apps for graphics (and just about everything else). And while the results were mostly good, on occasion something would go totally awry and reduce a graphics project to smoldering pixels (like the massive memory leak in Photo Pos Pro). Yesterday I actually paid money for Paint Shop Pro X5 Ultimate[^]. Good God. What I've been missing. :omg:

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      You didn't like GIMP?

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        For years I've been using various freeware apps for graphics (and just about everything else). And while the results were mostly good, on occasion something would go totally awry and reduce a graphics project to smoldering pixels (like the massive memory leak in Photo Pos Pro). Yesterday I actually paid money for Paint Shop Pro X5 Ultimate[^]. Good God. What I've been missing. :omg:

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        I still use Paint Shop Pro 9 (purely because it was the last version before Corel bought it). If X5 is anywhere near as good (and Corel haven't removed half the usability and added a heap of bugs as they generally do) it should be superb. I think it ranks up there with Photoshop, but at a very small fraction of the price.

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          You didn't like GIMP?

          VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.0 ToDo Manager Extension
          Version 3.0 now available. There is no place like 127.0.0.1

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          Alan Burkhart
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          Tried Gimp a couple years ago and didn't like it as well as Photo Pos Pro. But that was before PPP developed its memory issues (like unexpectedly dumping its Undo/Redo buffer).

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            I still use Paint Shop Pro 9 (purely because it was the last version before Corel bought it). If X5 is anywhere near as good (and Corel haven't removed half the usability and added a heap of bugs as they generally do) it should be superb. I think it ranks up there with Photoshop, but at a very small fraction of the price.

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            OriginalGriff wrote:

            I think it ranks up there with Photoshop, but at a very small fraction of the price.

            PhotoShop is well outside my budget.

            OriginalGriff wrote:

            I still use Paint Shop Pro 9 (purely because it was the last version before Corel bought it). If X5 is anywhere near as good (and Corel haven't removed half the usability and added a heap of bugs as they generally do) it should be superb.

            This is my first time with PSP. There's definitely a learning curve but thus far everything I've tried works well. I'd recommend giving the trial version a test drive. The only thing I don't like is the dark color scheme of the UI.

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              Tried Gimp a couple years ago and didn't like it as well as Photo Pos Pro. But that was before PPP developed its memory issues (like unexpectedly dumping its Undo/Redo buffer).

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              I use Photoshop as a rule but download GIMP every so often just to see what's new and am more impressed with every version.

              VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.0 ToDo Manager Extension
              Version 3.0 now available. There is no place like 127.0.0.1

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                OriginalGriff wrote:

                I think it ranks up there with Photoshop, but at a very small fraction of the price.

                PhotoShop is well outside my budget.

                OriginalGriff wrote:

                I still use Paint Shop Pro 9 (purely because it was the last version before Corel bought it). If X5 is anywhere near as good (and Corel haven't removed half the usability and added a heap of bugs as they generally do) it should be superb.

                This is my first time with PSP. There's definitely a learning curve but thus far everything I've tried works well. I'd recommend giving the trial version a test drive. The only thing I don't like is the dark color scheme of the UI.

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                I get nervous about upgrading stuff I like - particularly when it's a Corel product, I've been bitten too many times before. In PSP9 I have everything where I want it, my pressure sensitive tablet-and-pen combo works, and it would probably take me ages to get used to the new version (because I don't use it often enough, but when I do use it, it's because I need it). If I used it often enough to learn the new version, I might do it. I'll put it on my "consider this" list, and see if I get time to play later this year.

                If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.

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                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                  I still use Paint Shop Pro 9 (purely because it was the last version before Corel bought it). If X5 is anywhere near as good (and Corel haven't removed half the usability and added a heap of bugs as they generally do) it should be superb. I think it ranks up there with Photoshop, but at a very small fraction of the price.

                  If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.

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                  I used to work time to time with Corel Photo Paint about an eon ago and it was very good. Far more intuitive than Adobe Photoshop. I played little with Paint Shop Pro and I liked it too. IMO Corel is a good company.

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                    For years I've been using various freeware apps for graphics (and just about everything else). And while the results were mostly good, on occasion something would go totally awry and reduce a graphics project to smoldering pixels (like the massive memory leak in Photo Pos Pro). Yesterday I actually paid money for Paint Shop Pro X5 Ultimate[^]. Good God. What I've been missing. :omg:

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                    Never really liked Corel stuff - felt sad when they bought PSP. Glad to hear they haven't destroyed it. Take a look at Paint.Net for a great free graphics program for Windows.

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                      Tried Gimp a couple years ago and didn't like it as well as Photo Pos Pro. But that was before PPP developed its memory issues (like unexpectedly dumping its Undo/Redo buffer).

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                      Alan Burkhart wrote:

                      dumping its Undo/Redo buffer

                      Well take heart. Gimp does that too. When it does you need to save your changes and quit the program before something really horrible happens.

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                        Never really liked Corel stuff - felt sad when they bought PSP. Glad to hear they haven't destroyed it. Take a look at Paint.Net for a great free graphics program for Windows.

                        Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington

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                        Tried it too a few years ago. Didn't like how it handled layers. Liked it otherwise as far as it went but it was lacking a few tools I needed.

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                          For years I've been using various freeware apps for graphics (and just about everything else). And while the results were mostly good, on occasion something would go totally awry and reduce a graphics project to smoldering pixels (like the massive memory leak in Photo Pos Pro). Yesterday I actually paid money for Paint Shop Pro X5 Ultimate[^]. Good God. What I've been missing. :omg:

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                          I've been using Paint.net for small graphics stuff, and it's pretty decent. And it's free.

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                            Alan Burkhart wrote:

                            dumping its Undo/Redo buffer

                            Well take heart. Gimp does that too. When it does you need to save your changes and quit the program before something really horrible happens.

                            Play my game Gravity: IOS[^], Android[^], Windows Phone 7[^]

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                            thrakazog wrote:

                            Well take heart. Gimp does that too

                            A few months back while using Photo Pos, I clicked Undo and up popped an image with a similar file name I had edited like two weeks before. And my current project was gone. I said a number of things that don't bear repeating here. :)

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                              I've been using Paint.net for small graphics stuff, and it's pretty decent. And it's free.

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                              Haven't tried Paint.Net in a couple of years. Last time I used it I was unsatisfied with how it handled layers. But you're right in that it's good for simpler projects. If I'm just doing something quick (maybe resize and adjust the colors a bit) I use IrfanView[^]. For batch processing I have a program I wrote myself.[^] Hopefully PSP will be a good choice for more complex projects. It looks promising so far.

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                                For years I've been using various freeware apps for graphics (and just about everything else). And while the results were mostly good, on occasion something would go totally awry and reduce a graphics project to smoldering pixels (like the massive memory leak in Photo Pos Pro). Yesterday I actually paid money for Paint Shop Pro X5 Ultimate[^]. Good God. What I've been missing. :omg:

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                                I've used Paint Shop Pro for a number of years since version 1. I'm still using Version 7 and it still does what I need it to do quite well yet. I did try some of the free stuff and found too many of the tools I have become accustomed to were either missing or where implemented in a manner I found difficult to use efficiently. It is a good in between application, alot of the pro features found in the Adobe Photoshop products and better than the open source stuff, for well less than $100.

                                It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                                  I've used Paint Shop Pro for a number of years since version 1. I'm still using Version 7 and it still does what I need it to do quite well yet. I did try some of the free stuff and found too many of the tools I have become accustomed to were either missing or where implemented in a manner I found difficult to use efficiently. It is a good in between application, alot of the pro features found in the Adobe Photoshop products and better than the open source stuff, for well less than $100.

                                  It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                                  S Houghtelin wrote:

                                  I did try some of the free stuff and found too many of the tools I have become accustomed to were either missing or where implemented in a manner I found difficult to use efficiently

                                  The first thing I noticed is how clean and sharp it draws text. One of the problems I was having with (free) Photo Pos Pro was the text having such ragged edges.

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                                    For years I've been using various freeware apps for graphics (and just about everything else). And while the results were mostly good, on occasion something would go totally awry and reduce a graphics project to smoldering pixels (like the massive memory leak in Photo Pos Pro). Yesterday I actually paid money for Paint Shop Pro X5 Ultimate[^]. Good God. What I've been missing. :omg:

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                                    Here's[^] what I use.

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                                      Here's[^] what I use.

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                                      _Maxxx_ wrote:

                                      Here's[^] what I use.

                                      Used one of those in school, but it was SO complicated. :-D

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                                        I still use Paint Shop Pro 9 (purely because it was the last version before Corel bought it). If X5 is anywhere near as good (and Corel haven't removed half the usability and added a heap of bugs as they generally do) it should be superb. I think it ranks up there with Photoshop, but at a very small fraction of the price.

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                                        I'm still on v8...

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                                          For years I've been using various freeware apps for graphics (and just about everything else). And while the results were mostly good, on occasion something would go totally awry and reduce a graphics project to smoldering pixels (like the massive memory leak in Photo Pos Pro). Yesterday I actually paid money for Paint Shop Pro X5 Ultimate[^]. Good God. What I've been missing. :omg:

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                                          PSP is pretty good, we used to use that up to version 6 or so. Nowadays I use Paint.net because it's free and my image editing needs are rather basic. Good to hear that Corel haven't totally ruined PSP though, if I need to have a proper image editor in future then I might go back to it.

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