Termination letter from the employer
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This is an unfortunate development, but your former employer is only trying to protect his own ass from future repercussions. Your best recourse is to inform potential future employers that your departure from this company was unpleasant, and entirely voluntary due to unprofessional and possibly illegal behavior of your supervisor. Emphasize your side of the story - that you left because of unprofessional conduct during a meeting, and that you were not terminated by the company - and make sure that any future employer hears this from you before hearing the other side of the story during a subsequent background check. If there were witnesses to this incident, it would be helpful to have contact information for them to hand over on request, or written descriptions of the event from them in your hand ready to hand over. This is definitely going to cause you some difficulty, unless the employer has a well-known reputation for bad behavior in the industry, but it's not insurmountable. Document everything you can, and best of luck to you!
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Hi, During the meeting my employer spoke some unprofessional words to me so, I have left the meeting and told them about my resignation. After that my employer send the termination letter which is quoted that "You have been terminated as part of disciplinary action". (After that incident, my employer contact me and promise to give good feedback when my future employers ask) How can I inform my termination to my future employers during interview session? Thanks, --SJ
CodeNinja-C# wrote:
After that incident, my employer contact me and promise to give good feedback when my future employers ask
Get it in writing. :doh:
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CodeNinja-C# wrote:
After that incident, my employer contact me and promise to give good feedback when my future employers ask
Get it in writing. :doh:
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Hi, During the meeting my employer spoke some unprofessional words to me so, I have left the meeting and told them about my resignation. After that my employer send the termination letter which is quoted that "You have been terminated as part of disciplinary action". (After that incident, my employer contact me and promise to give good feedback when my future employers ask) How can I inform my termination to my future employers during interview session? Thanks, --SJ
That sucks. In the UK most decent firms have a sequence of HR procedures such as verbal warning, written warning, and a number of steps to be addressed before dismissal but not all firms have that. Certainly, get it in writing and document everything you can recall. It might not be needed but something written down will be fresh long after the mind has become clouded. :) Best of luck.
"I do not have to forgive my enemies, I have had them all shot." — Ramón Maria Narváez (1800-68). "I don't need to shoot my enemies, I don't have any." - Me (2012).
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Hi, During the meeting my employer spoke some unprofessional words to me so, I have left the meeting and told them about my resignation. After that my employer send the termination letter which is quoted that "You have been terminated as part of disciplinary action". (After that incident, my employer contact me and promise to give good feedback when my future employers ask) How can I inform my termination to my future employers during interview session? Thanks, --SJ
Dont offer any information about this topic in the interview, unless they bring it up. If it is brought up, be honest, but check your personal feelings at the door and try to state your side objectively. Try to focus on what you are capable of and why you will be a great asset to the prospective employer. I wouldnt depend on anything that a previous employer says what they will do verbally after you have left. You should get a written statement from them before you leave the office for the final time. Terminating employment is often an uncomfortable situation both both sides. It's usually a very sticky situation, legally, for the employer. In my experience they will placate the employee because they are no longer an asset, and possibly out of sympathy from the person informing the employee of their termination.
Debugging is twice as hard a writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it. --Brian W. Kernighan
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That sucks. In the UK most decent firms have a sequence of HR procedures such as verbal warning, written warning, and a number of steps to be addressed before dismissal but not all firms have that. Certainly, get it in writing and document everything you can recall. It might not be needed but something written down will be fresh long after the mind has become clouded. :) Best of luck.
"I do not have to forgive my enemies, I have had them all shot." — Ramón Maria Narváez (1800-68). "I don't need to shoot my enemies, I don't have any." - Me (2012).
Thanks
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Dont offer any information about this topic in the interview, unless they bring it up. If it is brought up, be honest, but check your personal feelings at the door and try to state your side objectively. Try to focus on what you are capable of and why you will be a great asset to the prospective employer. I wouldnt depend on anything that a previous employer says what they will do verbally after you have left. You should get a written statement from them before you leave the office for the final time. Terminating employment is often an uncomfortable situation both both sides. It's usually a very sticky situation, legally, for the employer. In my experience they will placate the employee because they are no longer an asset, and possibly out of sympathy from the person informing the employee of their termination.
Debugging is twice as hard a writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it. --Brian W. Kernighan
Thanks Paul
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Dont offer any information about this topic in the interview, unless they bring it up. If it is brought up, be honest, but check your personal feelings at the door and try to state your side objectively. Try to focus on what you are capable of and why you will be a great asset to the prospective employer. I wouldnt depend on anything that a previous employer says what they will do verbally after you have left. You should get a written statement from them before you leave the office for the final time. Terminating employment is often an uncomfortable situation both both sides. It's usually a very sticky situation, legally, for the employer. In my experience they will placate the employee because they are no longer an asset, and possibly out of sympathy from the person informing the employee of their termination.
Debugging is twice as hard a writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it. --Brian W. Kernighan
Love the Kerningham quote. Nearly as good as my favourite C.A.R.Hoare quote: "There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult. It demands the same skill, devotion, insight, and even inspiration as the discovery of the simple physical laws which underlie the complex phenomena of nature."
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Hi, During the meeting my employer spoke some unprofessional words to me so, I have left the meeting and told them about my resignation. After that my employer send the termination letter which is quoted that "You have been terminated as part of disciplinary action". (After that incident, my employer contact me and promise to give good feedback when my future employers ask) How can I inform my termination to my future employers during interview session? Thanks, --SJ
Have a really long read of this Q&A blog: http://www.askamanager.org/[^]. Lots of great posts on there, and many great discussions too. But... which country are you in? I assume from phrasing, you're from India, but it's guess work. A lot of advice will be country dependent, such as elegibility for unemployment, etc. Getting an agreed story in writing in exchange for agreeing not to sue my be possible. I also would not trust them. Do you have a "Managery" sounding friend you can get to pretend to be checking your references in a few weeks time? If you do have references at your former employer you can use, all the better. Otherwise, any future employer may get in touch with your last company anyway. I don't have a lot of experience with this as an applicant though - I was with my previous company for a LONG time, and I got my current job due to good timing, a "give me a job" codeproject signature, and my articles and MFC forum postings. My last interview was much more me interviewing them as a possible employer than the other way around. I'm only showing off a little bit - if you're visibly active and decently skilled, you might be able to skip a lot of job search rubbish. Again, country dependent... Iain.
I am one of "those foreigners coming over here and stealing our jobs". Yay me!
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Have a really long read of this Q&A blog: http://www.askamanager.org/[^]. Lots of great posts on there, and many great discussions too. But... which country are you in? I assume from phrasing, you're from India, but it's guess work. A lot of advice will be country dependent, such as elegibility for unemployment, etc. Getting an agreed story in writing in exchange for agreeing not to sue my be possible. I also would not trust them. Do you have a "Managery" sounding friend you can get to pretend to be checking your references in a few weeks time? If you do have references at your former employer you can use, all the better. Otherwise, any future employer may get in touch with your last company anyway. I don't have a lot of experience with this as an applicant though - I was with my previous company for a LONG time, and I got my current job due to good timing, a "give me a job" codeproject signature, and my articles and MFC forum postings. My last interview was much more me interviewing them as a possible employer than the other way around. I'm only showing off a little bit - if you're visibly active and decently skilled, you might be able to skip a lot of job search rubbish. Again, country dependent... Iain.
I am one of "those foreigners coming over here and stealing our jobs". Yay me!
Thanks Iain, I have decided to follow your way :)
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Hi, During the meeting my employer spoke some unprofessional words to me so, I have left the meeting and told them about my resignation. After that my employer send the termination letter which is quoted that "You have been terminated as part of disciplinary action". (After that incident, my employer contact me and promise to give good feedback when my future employers ask) How can I inform my termination to my future employers during interview session? Thanks, --SJ
CodeNinja-C# wrote:
I have left the meeting and told them about my resignation. After that my employer send the termination letter which is quoted that "You have been terminated as part of disciplinary action".
If you described that correctly... Where I live that is factually wrong and with a written notice from them you could probably start civil action. The basis of that is that you resigned first. Thus they did not terminate you. It would help if your resignation was in writing and given to them. Or alternatively if their was other corroborative evidence that you resigned first.
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CodeNinja-C# wrote:
I have left the meeting and told them about my resignation. After that my employer send the termination letter which is quoted that "You have been terminated as part of disciplinary action".
If you described that correctly... Where I live that is factually wrong and with a written notice from them you could probably start civil action. The basis of that is that you resigned first. Thus they did not terminate you. It would help if your resignation was in writing and given to them. Or alternatively if their was other corroborative evidence that you resigned first.
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