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    Rage
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    ... for all those who flamed me for calling Armstrong a freakin cheater a few months back : Hit this[^] Not only is he an arrogant prick, but he also is THE greatest cheater ever. His attempt to come back in grace of public opinion is just pathetic. Furthermore, he is now giving away names to blame other in order to save a small part of his doped butt. He is a living joke. Please media of the world, ignore him.

    ~RaGE();

    I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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      ... for all those who flamed me for calling Armstrong a freakin cheater a few months back : Hit this[^] Not only is he an arrogant prick, but he also is THE greatest cheater ever. His attempt to come back in grace of public opinion is just pathetic. Furthermore, he is now giving away names to blame other in order to save a small part of his doped butt. He is a living joke. Please media of the world, ignore him.

      ~RaGE();

      I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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      Rage wrote:

      Armstrong

      Somehow I thought you are talking about the Astronaut... Wasn't there an Astronaut called Armstrong? Dammit. Beginning of the week and I am already going nuts X| X| . Edit: I knew there was this guy called Armstrong[^].

      cheeeeeerriooooss Marco Alessandro Bertschi

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        Rage wrote:

        Armstrong

        Somehow I thought you are talking about the Astronaut... Wasn't there an Astronaut called Armstrong? Dammit. Beginning of the week and I am already going nuts X| X| . Edit: I knew there was this guy called Armstrong[^].

        cheeeeeerriooooss Marco Alessandro Bertschi

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        Marco Alessandro Bertschi wrote:

        Wasn't there an Astronaut called Armstrong?

        Ask the Dalek. :rolleyes: I was talkign about the cheater, not the astronaut.

        ~RaGE();

        I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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          Marco Alessandro Bertschi wrote:

          Wasn't there an Astronaut called Armstrong?

          Ask the Dalek. :rolleyes: I was talkign about the cheater, not the astronaut.

          ~RaGE();

          I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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          Marco Bertschi
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          Rage wrote:

          I was talkign about the cheater, not the astronaut.

          I recognized it as soon as I clicked the link.

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            Rage wrote:

            Armstrong

            Somehow I thought you are talking about the Astronaut... Wasn't there an Astronaut called Armstrong? Dammit. Beginning of the week and I am already going nuts X| X| . Edit: I knew there was this guy called Armstrong[^].

            cheeeeeerriooooss Marco Alessandro Bertschi

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            I thought it might be Armstrong[^] :-D Remember this was a joke.:~

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              ... for all those who flamed me for calling Armstrong a freakin cheater a few months back : Hit this[^] Not only is he an arrogant prick, but he also is THE greatest cheater ever. His attempt to come back in grace of public opinion is just pathetic. Furthermore, he is now giving away names to blame other in order to save a small part of his doped butt. He is a living joke. Please media of the world, ignore him.

              ~RaGE();

              I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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              What the hell are you getting so worked up about. It's not as if you would have won the Tour de France if he did not cheat. This is the reality of professional sports, most athletes, that need to perform at the level that Armstrong needed to perform at, cheat in one way or another, to get an advantage on their competitors. It just happens to be that he got caught and the others have not been caught yet. Then again, maybe his cheating involved your wife and/or girlfriend, then it is fully understandable that you got you panties in a knot.

              If only closed minds would come with closed mouths. Ego non sum semper iustus tamen Ego sum nunquam nefas!

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                What the hell are you getting so worked up about. It's not as if you would have won the Tour de France if he did not cheat. This is the reality of professional sports, most athletes, that need to perform at the level that Armstrong needed to perform at, cheat in one way or another, to get an advantage on their competitors. It just happens to be that he got caught and the others have not been caught yet. Then again, maybe his cheating involved your wife and/or girlfriend, then it is fully understandable that you got you panties in a knot.

                If only closed minds would come with closed mouths. Ego non sum semper iustus tamen Ego sum nunquam nefas!

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                Sorry, I do not belong to the community "Why do you care, they are all cheating anyway". What gets me upset are , in no particular order: - The fact that some good athletes, especially French ones, who would have truly deserved winning the Tour de France but could not due to this organized cheating. - The fact that Armstrong so arrogantly bragged about his pseudo-victories, despising the French journalist, and the rest of the racers. Indurain was probably as charged as him, but at least he shut the fuck up. - The fact that he was a model and a hope for a lot of people with cancer and simply betrayed their trust by acting like a jerk. - The fact that people have wasted time and energy to save him from cancer, and all he did after that was endangering his life again despite the chance that had been given him. You'd be happy to learn that my world is wider than only my wife or even my family. I care about what happens in the world, and this particular case, no matter how insignificant it should be for you, drives me mad.

                ~RaGE();

                I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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                  ... for all those who flamed me for calling Armstrong a freakin cheater a few months back : Hit this[^] Not only is he an arrogant prick, but he also is THE greatest cheater ever. His attempt to come back in grace of public opinion is just pathetic. Furthermore, he is now giving away names to blame other in order to save a small part of his doped butt. He is a living joke. Please media of the world, ignore him.

                  ~RaGE();

                  I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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                  Rage wrote:

                  He is a living joke. Please media of the world, ignore him.

                  Good start.

                  Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
                  -Or-
                  A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]

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                    Rage wrote:

                    He is a living joke. Please media of the world, ignore him.

                    Good start.

                    Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
                    -Or-
                    A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]

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                    Rage
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                    Fair point. Not sure however if my little rant counts.

                    ~RaGE();

                    I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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                      Sorry, I do not belong to the community "Why do you care, they are all cheating anyway". What gets me upset are , in no particular order: - The fact that some good athletes, especially French ones, who would have truly deserved winning the Tour de France but could not due to this organized cheating. - The fact that Armstrong so arrogantly bragged about his pseudo-victories, despising the French journalist, and the rest of the racers. Indurain was probably as charged as him, but at least he shut the fuck up. - The fact that he was a model and a hope for a lot of people with cancer and simply betrayed their trust by acting like a jerk. - The fact that people have wasted time and energy to save him from cancer, and all he did after that was endangering his life again despite the chance that had been given him. You'd be happy to learn that my world is wider than only my wife or even my family. I care about what happens in the world, and this particular case, no matter how insignificant it should be for you, drives me mad.

                      ~RaGE();

                      I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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                      Do not get me wrong I also care what goes on around the world, I do however tend to pay more attention to issues that affect humanity in one way or another. When I first heard about the Lance Armstrong saga, I thought to myself what an idiot he just guttered his whole cycling career and his reputation, and that is where my opinion ended. The Live Strong Foundation will not be affected by his actions and will continue to raise funds to assist people with cancer. I just don't care to raise my blood pressure over issues that have absolutely no impact on the general wellbeing of myself and/or other people.

                      If only closed minds would come with closed mouths. Ego non sum semper iustus tamen Ego sum nunquam nefas!

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                        ... for all those who flamed me for calling Armstrong a freakin cheater a few months back : Hit this[^] Not only is he an arrogant prick, but he also is THE greatest cheater ever. His attempt to come back in grace of public opinion is just pathetic. Furthermore, he is now giving away names to blame other in order to save a small part of his doped butt. He is a living joke. Please media of the world, ignore him.

                        ~RaGE();

                        I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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                        The sport was so rife with dope cheats that it was inevitable that he would also be one - remember when the Tour de France had a sit down strike because dope testing was to be introduced and they didn't like it? Armstrong was a special case though: trading on his "clean", "drug free" status and lying through his teeth. The only reason he is doing this is to try and stop the sponsors grabbing the money back, I figure.

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                          The sport was so rife with dope cheats that it was inevitable that he would also be one - remember when the Tour de France had a sit down strike because dope testing was to be introduced and they didn't like it? Armstrong was a special case though: trading on his "clean", "drug free" status and lying through his teeth. The only reason he is doing this is to try and stop the sponsors grabbing the money back, I figure.

                          If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.

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                          OriginalGriff wrote:

                          Armstrong was a special case though: trading on his "clean", "drug free" status and lying through his teeth

                          Yep, exactly my point.

                          OriginalGriff wrote:

                          remember when the Tour de France had a sit down strike

                          That was pathetic. And the movement was led by Laurent Jalabert. (1998, The Tour of Doping).

                          ~RaGE();

                          I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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                            What the hell are you getting so worked up about. It's not as if you would have won the Tour de France if he did not cheat. This is the reality of professional sports, most athletes, that need to perform at the level that Armstrong needed to perform at, cheat in one way or another, to get an advantage on their competitors. It just happens to be that he got caught and the others have not been caught yet. Then again, maybe his cheating involved your wife and/or girlfriend, then it is fully understandable that you got you panties in a knot.

                            If only closed minds would come with closed mouths. Ego non sum semper iustus tamen Ego sum nunquam nefas!

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                            Le centriste
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                            So cheating is OK?

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                              ... for all those who flamed me for calling Armstrong a freakin cheater a few months back : Hit this[^] Not only is he an arrogant prick, but he also is THE greatest cheater ever. His attempt to come back in grace of public opinion is just pathetic. Furthermore, he is now giving away names to blame other in order to save a small part of his doped butt. He is a living joke. Please media of the world, ignore him.

                              ~RaGE();

                              I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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                              The Oprah Winfrey Show, the first step into the path to redemption.

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                                ... for all those who flamed me for calling Armstrong a freakin cheater a few months back : Hit this[^] Not only is he an arrogant prick, but he also is THE greatest cheater ever. His attempt to come back in grace of public opinion is just pathetic. Furthermore, he is now giving away names to blame other in order to save a small part of his doped butt. He is a living joke. Please media of the world, ignore him.

                                ~RaGE();

                                I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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                                It's a public secret that everyone takes doping, even in the amateur divisions. You can call Amstrong a cheater and you're right, but if everyone takes it then it's not really cheating is it? In fact, it are the teams and doctors that are leeching off the industry to make money; endangering the lives of kids who's dream it is to be the next Eddy Merckx. Most of the athletes are indoctrinated from a young age that you have to take doping to make it.

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                                  Marco Alessandro Bertschi wrote:

                                  Wasn't there an Astronaut called Armstrong?

                                  Ask the Dalek. :rolleyes: I was talkign about the cheater, not the astronaut.

                                  ~RaGE();

                                  I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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                                  Rage wrote:

                                  I was talkign about the cheater, not the astronaut.

                                  Either way, both incidents were cheating, one did it in an individual capacity and the other was part of a grand plan.

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                                    The Oprah Winfrey Show, the first step into the path to redemption.

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                                    Le Gauchiste wrote:

                                    The Oprah Winfrey Show, the first step into the path to redemption and self-loathing.

                                    FTFY. :)

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                                      Sorry, I do not belong to the community "Why do you care, they are all cheating anyway". What gets me upset are , in no particular order: - The fact that some good athletes, especially French ones, who would have truly deserved winning the Tour de France but could not due to this organized cheating. - The fact that Armstrong so arrogantly bragged about his pseudo-victories, despising the French journalist, and the rest of the racers. Indurain was probably as charged as him, but at least he shut the fuck up. - The fact that he was a model and a hope for a lot of people with cancer and simply betrayed their trust by acting like a jerk. - The fact that people have wasted time and energy to save him from cancer, and all he did after that was endangering his life again despite the chance that had been given him. You'd be happy to learn that my world is wider than only my wife or even my family. I care about what happens in the world, and this particular case, no matter how insignificant it should be for you, drives me mad.

                                      ~RaGE();

                                      I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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                                      I agree totally. I would also add...# - His aggressiveness in going after other riders who tried to blow the whistle on him and how he actively ensured their careers were ruined as a result of daring to oust5 him.# - The fact he used his power in the Sport to intimidate his teammates into doping and also to cover up his doping. - The fact he not also got winnings but damage payments from Newspapers such as the Sunday Times for printing stories that suggested he doped. There are many more reasons that this man is despicable as well.

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                                        Rage wrote:

                                        I was talkign about the cheater, not the astronaut.

                                        Either way, both incidents were cheating, one did it in an individual capacity and the other was part of a grand plan.

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                                        Shameel wrote:

                                        and the other was part of a grand plan.

                                        Nonsense

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