iPads, tablets... Does anyone use them for WORK? (Or anything REAL?)
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One finger? I touch type on the iPad. It's very fast for me.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
Both hands or one hand? On a 10" screen's on-screen key-pad (which probably only takes half that space), I can't see how you can type using both hands.
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
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Chris Maunder wrote:
We use them at CodeProject every day, all day. In fact all night and all weekend too. They have become absolutely indispensable to us.
What exactly do you use it for? Check work mail? Remote into an actual machine and do dev? I can't see any real use for an iPad at work. :~
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
Web Servers, obviously. Those old Palm Pilots were getting hard to support.
Will Rogers never met me.
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Web Servers, obviously. Those old Palm Pilots were getting hard to support.
Will Rogers never met me.
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Both hands or one hand? On a 10" screen's on-screen key-pad (which probably only takes half that space), I can't see how you can type using both hands.
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
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Nish Sivakumar wrote:
I can't see how you can type using both hands.
Maybe really small hands?
jschell wrote:
Maybe really small hands?
Possible!
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
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So, working in huge offices, hundreds of people... And NOONE uses any form of tablet. It's just too impractical, cumbersome, etc.. Yet, a handful of silly managers keep on bringing up tablet ideas to me. How I should be making this and that for tablets. BUT, noone uses those shits! Moreover, would you really trust apple or google, who have a long history of snooping on people, gathering TMI (too much information), tracking users and usage, with critical & restricted business documents? Synchronizing documents in the clouds, sending them over internet..? They're not even that portable. Anyway, seeing hundreds of office workers, I still don't see anyone using it. Whether it be for notes in meetings, etc.. Well, noone uses them -at all. The ONLY usage I've ever heard of that seems reasonable is to entertain 5 year-olds with silly games. Added the "rant" button now, because I'm reaching rage levels over these over-hyped, over-advertized, over-blogged (mostly paid ads in reality), pieces of sssshhhhhiiiiAAAAAARRRG. Tablets are like the windows millenium of computing. A failed experiment. Good to entertain children, good for wannabe-a-modern managers who try to seem technically interested and up to date. I'd burn them all (the tablets, not the children and managers. lol).
ii_noname_ii wrote:
Does anyone use them for WORK? (Or anything REAL?)
I suspect that many people that spent the money on one with the intent to use it at work and actually managed to find something at work to use it with would rationalize that it makes them "more" productive. Just as many people rationalize the same thing about almost all non-trivial new technologies and programming APIs.
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ii_noname_ii wrote:
Does anyone use them for WORK? (Or anything REAL?)
I suspect that many people that spent the money on one with the intent to use it at work and actually managed to find something at work to use it with would rationalize that it makes them "more" productive. Just as many people rationalize the same thing about almost all non-trivial new technologies and programming APIs.
I play Angry Birds on mine. Does that count as work? Seems like a lot of work to kill those pigs.
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Both hands or one hand? On a 10" screen's on-screen key-pad (which probably only takes half that space), I can't see how you can type using both hands.
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
When holding the iPad I use two thumbs. When I'm Typing With Intent, the 'pad is on the desk and I'm typing with two full hands worth of type-ready fingers (which for me makes a grand total of 4 fingers! And a thumb. Don't forget the thumb.) Splitting the keyboard (put two fingers on it, pull fingers apart) makes things easier on the bigger iPad
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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So, working in huge offices, hundreds of people... And NOONE uses any form of tablet. It's just too impractical, cumbersome, etc.. Yet, a handful of silly managers keep on bringing up tablet ideas to me. How I should be making this and that for tablets. BUT, noone uses those shits! Moreover, would you really trust apple or google, who have a long history of snooping on people, gathering TMI (too much information), tracking users and usage, with critical & restricted business documents? Synchronizing documents in the clouds, sending them over internet..? They're not even that portable. Anyway, seeing hundreds of office workers, I still don't see anyone using it. Whether it be for notes in meetings, etc.. Well, noone uses them -at all. The ONLY usage I've ever heard of that seems reasonable is to entertain 5 year-olds with silly games. Added the "rant" button now, because I'm reaching rage levels over these over-hyped, over-advertized, over-blogged (mostly paid ads in reality), pieces of sssshhhhhiiiiAAAAAARRRG. Tablets are like the windows millenium of computing. A failed experiment. Good to entertain children, good for wannabe-a-modern managers who try to seem technically interested and up to date. I'd burn them all (the tablets, not the children and managers. lol).
I use my Windows Surface tablet extensively for work. With OneNote, it's superb for preparing for meetings, taking notes during them and then writing them up afterwards. Throw in Word and PowerPoint too and it's extremely useful. Also got a lot of mileage from it when writing revision notes for an exam I was revising for recently, taking it down to Starbucks for a change of scene. For that, the touch cover keyboard was invaluable.
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So, working in huge offices, hundreds of people... And NOONE uses any form of tablet. It's just too impractical, cumbersome, etc.. Yet, a handful of silly managers keep on bringing up tablet ideas to me. How I should be making this and that for tablets. BUT, noone uses those shits! Moreover, would you really trust apple or google, who have a long history of snooping on people, gathering TMI (too much information), tracking users and usage, with critical & restricted business documents? Synchronizing documents in the clouds, sending them over internet..? They're not even that portable. Anyway, seeing hundreds of office workers, I still don't see anyone using it. Whether it be for notes in meetings, etc.. Well, noone uses them -at all. The ONLY usage I've ever heard of that seems reasonable is to entertain 5 year-olds with silly games. Added the "rant" button now, because I'm reaching rage levels over these over-hyped, over-advertized, over-blogged (mostly paid ads in reality), pieces of sssshhhhhiiiiAAAAAARRRG. Tablets are like the windows millenium of computing. A failed experiment. Good to entertain children, good for wannabe-a-modern managers who try to seem technically interested and up to date. I'd burn them all (the tablets, not the children and managers. lol).
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Windows is not a tablet. You are excused :P
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I use my Windows Surface tablet extensively for work. With OneNote, it's superb for preparing for meetings, taking notes during them and then writing them up afterwards. Throw in Word and PowerPoint too and it's extremely useful. Also got a lot of mileage from it when writing revision notes for an exam I was revising for recently, taking it down to Starbucks for a change of scene. For that, the touch cover keyboard was invaluable.
Windows is not a tablet. You are excused :P
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Maybe I should have excluded geeks from the original topic. Real work, by non nerds.
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ii_noname_ii wrote:
Does anyone use them for WORK? (Or anything REAL?)
I suspect that many people that spent the money on one with the intent to use it at work and actually managed to find something at work to use it with would rationalize that it makes them "more" productive. Just as many people rationalize the same thing about almost all non-trivial new technologies and programming APIs.
jschell wrote:
I suspect that many people that spent the money on one with the intent to use it at work and actually managed to find something at work to use it with would rationalize that it makes them "more" productive.
Just as many people rationalize the same thing about almost all non-trivial new technologies and programming APIs.By FAR, my favorite reply...
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So, working in huge offices, hundreds of people... And NOONE uses any form of tablet. It's just too impractical, cumbersome, etc.. Yet, a handful of silly managers keep on bringing up tablet ideas to me. How I should be making this and that for tablets. BUT, noone uses those shits! Moreover, would you really trust apple or google, who have a long history of snooping on people, gathering TMI (too much information), tracking users and usage, with critical & restricted business documents? Synchronizing documents in the clouds, sending them over internet..? They're not even that portable. Anyway, seeing hundreds of office workers, I still don't see anyone using it. Whether it be for notes in meetings, etc.. Well, noone uses them -at all. The ONLY usage I've ever heard of that seems reasonable is to entertain 5 year-olds with silly games. Added the "rant" button now, because I'm reaching rage levels over these over-hyped, over-advertized, over-blogged (mostly paid ads in reality), pieces of sssshhhhhiiiiAAAAAARRRG. Tablets are like the windows millenium of computing. A failed experiment. Good to entertain children, good for wannabe-a-modern managers who try to seem technically interested and up to date. I'd burn them all (the tablets, not the children and managers. lol).
We are currently writing custom software for the surface so that all of our sales people can walk around the stores with tablets and take customers orders without being tied to kiosks or using pen/paper. Currently this is implemented in one of our stores, but is rapidly expanding to all of them.
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We use them at CodeProject every day, all day. In fact all night and all weekend too. They have become absolutely indispensable to us.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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So, working in huge offices, hundreds of people... And NOONE uses any form of tablet. It's just too impractical, cumbersome, etc.. Yet, a handful of silly managers keep on bringing up tablet ideas to me. How I should be making this and that for tablets. BUT, noone uses those shits! Moreover, would you really trust apple or google, who have a long history of snooping on people, gathering TMI (too much information), tracking users and usage, with critical & restricted business documents? Synchronizing documents in the clouds, sending them over internet..? They're not even that portable. Anyway, seeing hundreds of office workers, I still don't see anyone using it. Whether it be for notes in meetings, etc.. Well, noone uses them -at all. The ONLY usage I've ever heard of that seems reasonable is to entertain 5 year-olds with silly games. Added the "rant" button now, because I'm reaching rage levels over these over-hyped, over-advertized, over-blogged (mostly paid ads in reality), pieces of sssshhhhhiiiiAAAAAARRRG. Tablets are like the windows millenium of computing. A failed experiment. Good to entertain children, good for wannabe-a-modern managers who try to seem technically interested and up to date. I'd burn them all (the tablets, not the children and managers. lol).
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So, working in huge offices, hundreds of people... And NOONE uses any form of tablet. It's just too impractical, cumbersome, etc.. Yet, a handful of silly managers keep on bringing up tablet ideas to me. How I should be making this and that for tablets. BUT, noone uses those shits! Moreover, would you really trust apple or google, who have a long history of snooping on people, gathering TMI (too much information), tracking users and usage, with critical & restricted business documents? Synchronizing documents in the clouds, sending them over internet..? They're not even that portable. Anyway, seeing hundreds of office workers, I still don't see anyone using it. Whether it be for notes in meetings, etc.. Well, noone uses them -at all. The ONLY usage I've ever heard of that seems reasonable is to entertain 5 year-olds with silly games. Added the "rant" button now, because I'm reaching rage levels over these over-hyped, over-advertized, over-blogged (mostly paid ads in reality), pieces of sssshhhhhiiiiAAAAAARRRG. Tablets are like the windows millenium of computing. A failed experiment. Good to entertain children, good for wannabe-a-modern managers who try to seem technically interested and up to date. I'd burn them all (the tablets, not the children and managers. lol).
tl;dr: I started working for an Architectural firm as an engineer. They bought me a computer, said "get to work". Work slowed down, so I helped network the company's PCs together. I asked for a new computer - said a server was the way to go. They got me one. Wrote a few web apps whenever work slowed (Apache + PHP). Brought in some work not realated to the main business - but complimentary to it. Eventually became the go-to guy for all things HTML and web-app-ish. Got more work, wrote more apps (IIS). Asked for a new server, plus a laptop for demo-ing to clients. Got 'em both. And an extra laptop. Fast forward 15 years. Manager asked if "those iPad things" could be used in the office. My answer: Yup. And it would be great if they would serve as an incentive to keep the cr@p-ware off the company machines (I serve as the malware sheriff most days; and our machines aren't locked down :wtf: ). ** bottom line ** Two years ago, in leiu of a Christmas bonus, the management gave everyone got an iPad - and we were asked (told nicely) to use the work machines for work only: if the software isn't required for generating a billable hour, uninstall it. Turns out, they're much more than toys: - I can check email in under a minute at the airport - I can look up tech specs, css tricks, javascript samples, and API specs in less time. - I've got my Harley's maintenance and electrical system manuals available on the road (as searchable pdfs) - I can update my out-of-office status, facebook page, personal web page, and company portal from nearly anywhere I have wifi or 3G coverage. - And, although I'm still removing malware from company machines - it's very rare compared to our pre-iPad days. < rant > ;P Yes, my phone can do all of that. But, I just passed 50, and I hate wearing my new glasses to see the microscopic print on the touch screen and my fingers are, in a word, "stout". Need another word? Try "stubby". It seems the current crop of phones aren't designed for those of us with calloused, substantial digits. And, I am very adept at misplacing styluses. < /rant >
-Bob
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So, working in huge offices, hundreds of people... And NOONE uses any form of tablet. It's just too impractical, cumbersome, etc.. Yet, a handful of silly managers keep on bringing up tablet ideas to me. How I should be making this and that for tablets. BUT, noone uses those shits! Moreover, would you really trust apple or google, who have a long history of snooping on people, gathering TMI (too much information), tracking users and usage, with critical & restricted business documents? Synchronizing documents in the clouds, sending them over internet..? They're not even that portable. Anyway, seeing hundreds of office workers, I still don't see anyone using it. Whether it be for notes in meetings, etc.. Well, noone uses them -at all. The ONLY usage I've ever heard of that seems reasonable is to entertain 5 year-olds with silly games. Added the "rant" button now, because I'm reaching rage levels over these over-hyped, over-advertized, over-blogged (mostly paid ads in reality), pieces of sssshhhhhiiiiAAAAAARRRG. Tablets are like the windows millenium of computing. A failed experiment. Good to entertain children, good for wannabe-a-modern managers who try to seem technically interested and up to date. I'd burn them all (the tablets, not the children and managers. lol).
My day job is as a programmer analyst, but I am also a pastor. I use my iPad mini every day for reading. I also use it during services for my sermon/teaching notes. With Google Drive, I can edit/view documents wherever I am.
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I've only had mine since Christmas, so it's early days. But... I use it for book reading (technical in PDF and fiction in mobi/epub) and it is very useful - much lighter than the equivelent paper and at 7 inch, it fits in a pocket. I keep my calender, shopping list(s), contacts and music on it - which I used to keep on my phone, but this is a lot easier to read. I use it for browsing tinternet - much better than the phone. I use it for email - much better than the phone. I make notes, I can get documents from my NAS (or any other source). I can even watch movies / TV and play games on it. (It runs Doom!) It's early days, but I suspect that it is going to surplant a lot of bits and bobs I used to carry about - which makes my work easier, and my life. Admittedly, it's not an iPad - it's a Nexus 7 - but that's because I didn't want the over-hyped, over-advertised, over-blogged, apple "product".
If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.
Android devices are actual ok as it's easy to add files you need - pdf etc. iPads on the other hand are an absolutely waste of space in an office, so locked down that the only use for them is as expensive coffee mat! The iPad would have been a great bit of kit if it wasn't for the lack of a decent operating system and its lock down by Apple. Have a Samsung pad and that is useful as an office tool, the iPad is there as we need it for testing HML5 apps and that's about it otherwise it would have been junked months ago!
