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None of them know anything...especially when they say I'm a braindead monkey. I am most certainly not braindead. ;)
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David Stone wrote: a braindead monkey. I am most certainly not braindead. LOL!!! I wondered why your email came from a server at the San Diego Zoo... Have you and your friends typed any Shakespeare lately? It is ok for women not to like sports, so long as they nod in the right places and bring beers at the right times.
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XP: + groups in Explorer (don't diss this - it rocks) + handy image preview utility / digital camera support + it's newer, so more likely to be supported for longer - higher system requirements - that pesky activation thing - passport integration if u can get over the -'s, XP is great.
Shog9
The Man. The Legend. The Bored, Narcissistic, Whiteboard-marker Sniffing Programmer.
As a kernel programmer, there are lot of advancement done in the pnp and power management part of the OS, which is ideal for new addition of devices.. Also, it gives less number of crashes compared to win2k and quite stable.. Always the latest should be better than the earlier one.. this is what everyone aims at when both are available at same price.. regds, Shiva P
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XP: + groups in Explorer (don't diss this - it rocks) + handy image preview utility / digital camera support + it's newer, so more likely to be supported for longer - higher system requirements - that pesky activation thing - passport integration if u can get over the -'s, XP is great.
Shog9
The Man. The Legend. The Bored, Narcissistic, Whiteboard-marker Sniffing Programmer.
Shog9 wrote: groups in Explorer (don't diss this - it rocks) More than an year, and yet I never ever knew about this feature. Thanks Shog. Nish
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]
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David Stone wrote: a braindead monkey. I am most certainly not braindead. LOL!!! I wondered why your email came from a server at the San Diego Zoo... Have you and your friends typed any Shakespeare lately? It is ok for women not to like sports, so long as they nod in the right places and bring beers at the right times.
Paul Watson, on Sports - 2/10/2003No...just a big book about a big white whale. :-D
Hey, what can I say? I'm a chick magnet...a babe conductor...a logarithm for the ladies. -Strong Bad from HomeStarRunner.com Essential Tips for Web Developers
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I despise XP. It's Windows trying to be an Apple, and doing it badly. It never crashes, but instead crashes all applications several times a day. Fortunately it pops up cute little boxes to let you imagine it's reporting its constant errors to MS. It loses printers on the network, has trouble opening network shares, allows you little control over users and network connections, and has a licensing scheme that is evil. Other than that, it's a wonderful OS. I hate it. Two things it does well - making scheduled backups is easy (assuming that it can find the network backup device at all), and it burns CDs almost without effort. Both are huge improvements over any previous incarnation of Windows. Neither is worth the extra aggravation that comes with it. Win2K is far better for actual use by a long margin. But since it's for work, and your company develops software, XP is the better choice. You need to be able to develop software for the new platform, as awful as it is. The programs I've used on it all fail in weird, unpredictable ways, and as always, MS help is completely useless. Each of them works perfectly on Win2K. You don't want to get your company into a bad spot by developing on Win2K and having your products fail when customers install them on new PCs with the latest MS trash operating system. Since it's for work, go with XP. It is ok for women not to like sports, so long as they nod in the right places and bring beers at the right times.
Paul Watson, on Sports - 2/10/2003You seem to dislike XP too. But for development we already have some XP's. The new ones are for some other users. I thought I'd recommend XP. Now that you say this...:(( Smitha Imagination is more important than knowledge. --Albert Einstein
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Colin Davies wrote: The main reason I won't use XP is the activation non But isn't there version without activation. Or are they costly ? But other than the activation trouble, do you think XP is better than 2K ? Smitha Imagination is more important than knowledge. --Albert Einstein
Smitha Vijayan wrote: But isn't there version without activation. I think there is a version from China flaoting around. And there is another Multiuser license version about. Definitly outside of my budget. Smitha Vijayan wrote: But other than the activation trouble, do you think XP is better than 2K ? Logic says that it is. Remember though 2000 is version 5.0 and XP is 5.1 so there is not really an awesome difference being described by the people who create the version numbers. One thing I think all Windows dev companies should be considering though is whether MS will really go all 64 bit and multi processor in the future. As to the obsolescence issue, I can see another few yrs for 2000 and a at least that plus two more for XP. Regardz Colin J Davies
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I'm guessing the concept of a 2 hour movie showing two guys eating a meal and talking struck them as 'foreign' Rob Manderson wrote:
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None of them know anything...especially when they say I'm a braindead monkey. I am most certainly not braindead. ;)
Hey, what can I say? I'm a chick magnet...a babe conductor...a logarithm for the ladies. -Strong Bad from HomeStarRunner.com Essential Tips for Web Developers
David Stone wrote: I am most certainly not braindead. In my case it's the reverse. I am not a monkey, but I might be brain dead - in your case you admit to monkiness, but you say you are not braindead. Nish :~
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]
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I would vote for Win2K at work. Personally I prefer XP at home. BTW, How's Tweety? ;P Follow live World Cup Cricket scores here[^]
Kant wrote: How's Tweety? I put her in an asylum as part of my snatching nish from her :-D Smitha Imagination is more important than knowledge. --Albert Einstein
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Colin Davies wrote: The main reason I won't use XP is the activation non But isn't there version without activation. Or are they costly ? But other than the activation trouble, do you think XP is better than 2K ? Smitha Imagination is more important than knowledge. --Albert Einstein
There is a volume license edition, but I don't know how much it costs. Jon Sagara Hi! I'm Melanoma, Moley Russell's wart. -- Uncle Buck
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Christian Graus wrote: XP is crap and is written for braindead monkeys Actually it is not. I been using it for quite a long while now and I find 2K very dull and slow in comparison. Nish p.s. I was responding to you sayin it is crap. AS for the suggestion that it's intended for braindead monkeys, I dunno. Looking back at my life so far, I sometimes feel a braindead monkey would have done much better! :-)
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]
I used it for months, until I just could not stand it anymore. Perhaps there is a hidden 'be an OS, not a tinkertoy' option I never saw. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
It'd probably be fairly easy to make a bot that'd post random stupid VB questions, and nobody would probably ever notice - benjymous - 21-Jan-2003 -
XP is crap and is written for braindead monkeys. W2000 rules. I believe W2000 costs the same as XP Home, which is even more useless. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
It'd probably be fairly easy to make a bot that'd post random stupid VB questions, and nobody would probably ever notice - benjymous - 21-Jan-2003Christian Graus wrote: XP is crap and is written for braindead monkeys. W2000 rules. hear hear! (or is it here here?). BTW ignore that 1 vote your post just got, that was me. I meant to vote 5 but I'm sleepy and I mixed up the meaning of 1 and 5 ;) --Mike-- The Internet is a place where absolutely nothing happens. -- Strong Bad 1ClickPicGrabber - Grab & organize pictures from your favorite web pages, with 1 click! My really out-of-date homepage Sonork-100.19012 Acid_Helm
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Smitha Vijayan wrote: But why ??? Smitha LOL. CG is always biased abt some things, that's all. An year back he said worse things about C#, now that's what he does for a living :-) Nish
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]
C# does some nice things, and ASP.NET is a killer app. Without ASP.NET, C# would be doomed, a solution looking for a problem that isn't there. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
It'd probably be fairly easy to make a bot that'd post random stupid VB questions, and nobody would probably ever notice - benjymous - 21-Jan-2003 -
Christian Graus wrote: XP is crap and is written for braindead monkeys. W2000 rules. But why ??? :( Smitha Imagination is more important than knowledge. --Albert Einstein
Because it tries to make things easy and as a result makes them hard. Plus the new start menu is the ugliest UI I have ever seen. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
It'd probably be fairly easy to make a bot that'd post random stupid VB questions, and nobody would probably ever notice - benjymous - 21-Jan-2003 -
Christian Graus wrote: XP is crap and is written for braindead monkeys. W2000 rules. hear hear! (or is it here here?). BTW ignore that 1 vote your post just got, that was me. I meant to vote 5 but I'm sleepy and I mixed up the meaning of 1 and 5 ;) --Mike-- The Internet is a place where absolutely nothing happens. -- Strong Bad 1ClickPicGrabber - Grab & organize pictures from your favorite web pages, with 1 click! My really out-of-date homepage Sonork-100.19012 Acid_Helm
*grin* I've been ignoring post votes for a while now :-) Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
It'd probably be fairly easy to make a bot that'd post random stupid VB questions, and nobody would probably ever notice - benjymous - 21-Jan-2003 -
Christian Graus wrote: XP is crap and is written for braindead monkeys. W2000 rules. hear hear! (or is it here here?). BTW ignore that 1 vote your post just got, that was me. I meant to vote 5 but I'm sleepy and I mixed up the meaning of 1 and 5 ;) --Mike-- The Internet is a place where absolutely nothing happens. -- Strong Bad 1ClickPicGrabber - Grab & organize pictures from your favorite web pages, with 1 click! My really out-of-date homepage Sonork-100.19012 Acid_Helm
Michael Dunn wrote: BTW ignore that 1 vote your post just got, that was me. I meant to vote 5 but I'm sleepy and I mixed up the meaning of 1 and 5 :-) This one's good :-) Nish
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]
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Smitha Vijayan wrote: But isn't there version without activation. I think there is a version from China flaoting around. And there is another Multiuser license version about. Definitly outside of my budget. Smitha Vijayan wrote: But other than the activation trouble, do you think XP is better than 2K ? Logic says that it is. Remember though 2000 is version 5.0 and XP is 5.1 so there is not really an awesome difference being described by the people who create the version numbers. One thing I think all Windows dev companies should be considering though is whether MS will really go all 64 bit and multi processor in the future. As to the obsolescence issue, I can see another few yrs for 2000 and a at least that plus two more for XP. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I'm guessing the concept of a 2 hour movie showing two guys eating a meal and talking struck them as 'foreign' Rob Manderson wrote:
Colin Davies wrote: I think there is a version from China flaoting around That's the only one we had back in Trivandrum :-) Nish
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]
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You seem to dislike XP too. But for development we already have some XP's. The new ones are for some other users. I thought I'd recommend XP. Now that you say this...:(( Smitha Imagination is more important than knowledge. --Albert Einstein
I'm sorry, Smitha. I really hate XP - can't help that. I set up a network using it, hosted on three identical Dell PCs, all brand new, and it's been nothing but a nightmare since. I've got Win2K Server for a home PC and love it. That doesn't mean it has no problems - it has crashed every two days since the last time I let MS update it, and the update itself destroyed my Internet connection. I'm used to that from Microsoft - all their products are garbage. But XP was just a slap in the face, it is so bad. Still, I think that for software development purposes your company would be smarter to invest in XP and learn to work around its defects. It will serve you longer without becoming more obsolete than it already is, and help to ensure that your products remain compatible with the OS that most customers will be buying. Stick with your recommendation... It is ok for women not to like sports, so long as they nod in the right places and bring beers at the right times.
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Because it tries to make things easy and as a result makes them hard. Plus the new start menu is the ugliest UI I have ever seen. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
It'd probably be fairly easy to make a bot that'd post random stupid VB questions, and nobody would probably ever notice - benjymous - 21-Jan-2003Yes the start menu sucks. And it takes a lot of time to get used to it. I am so used to the old start menu layout. But they say this is the most intelligent layout, with the more frequently accessed programs at easy reach. Smitha Imagination is more important than knowledge. --Albert Einstein
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No...just a big book about a big white whale. :-D
Hey, what can I say? I'm a chick magnet...a babe conductor...a logarithm for the ladies. -Strong Bad from HomeStarRunner.com Essential Tips for Web Developers
LOL Smitha Imagination is more important than knowledge. --Albert Einstein
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Yes the start menu sucks. And it takes a lot of time to get used to it. I am so used to the old start menu layout. But they say this is the most intelligent layout, with the more frequently accessed programs at easy reach. Smitha Imagination is more important than knowledge. --Albert Einstein
well, 'they' CAN'T say 'we need another gimmic to sell you an OS you don't need', now can they ? If it's so intelligent, why do we both not like it ? If it's so easy to use, why didn't we just love it at first use ? Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
It'd probably be fairly easy to make a bot that'd post random stupid VB questions, and nobody would probably ever notice - benjymous - 21-Jan-2003