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  • W Wjousts

    I'm seriously thinking about looking for another job, but my current job title is making it annoyingly difficult to explain that yes, I am actually a programmer / developer and yes I've been doing it for the last 8 years. So I asked my current boss (tactfully) if I could change my job title to something that actually reflects what I do. She told me that I can't change my current title (it's part of the corporate job "ladder"), but I can hyphenate is and add whatever I want afterwards. For example: Title that doesn't suggest anything programming related - senior developer. So my question is, what would be a good title to stick on the end that might actually help communicate that I am actually a developer? As it is now, I'm largely a solo developer (hence the lack of suitable job titles) so I do everything and I feel my title should communicate so degree of seniority (hence not just "programmer" or "developer" or "code monkey"). Any suggestions (serious or otherwise)?

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    Marco Bertschi
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    Wjousts wrote:

    senior developer

    and then add the name of the system which you are mostly programming for - the product name, if it is a well-known product or a general name like "Database system", "for .Net Framework Applications", "Linux Systems", "MySQL and PHP", "Microsoft Environment" and so on.

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    • W Wjousts

      I'm seriously thinking about looking for another job, but my current job title is making it annoyingly difficult to explain that yes, I am actually a programmer / developer and yes I've been doing it for the last 8 years. So I asked my current boss (tactfully) if I could change my job title to something that actually reflects what I do. She told me that I can't change my current title (it's part of the corporate job "ladder"), but I can hyphenate is and add whatever I want afterwards. For example: Title that doesn't suggest anything programming related - senior developer. So my question is, what would be a good title to stick on the end that might actually help communicate that I am actually a developer? As it is now, I'm largely a solo developer (hence the lack of suitable job titles) so I do everything and I feel my title should communicate so degree of seniority (hence not just "programmer" or "developer" or "code monkey"). Any suggestions (serious or otherwise)?

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      Ranjan D
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      Remember you haven't told your current designation :) , then how shall we suggest you with ? Some companies stick with Program Analyst I, II, II etc may be you can give a try. Else request for Senior Developer , Technical Lead/Team Lead etc Thanks,

      Ranjan.D

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      • W Wjousts

        I'm seriously thinking about looking for another job, but my current job title is making it annoyingly difficult to explain that yes, I am actually a programmer / developer and yes I've been doing it for the last 8 years. So I asked my current boss (tactfully) if I could change my job title to something that actually reflects what I do. She told me that I can't change my current title (it's part of the corporate job "ladder"), but I can hyphenate is and add whatever I want afterwards. For example: Title that doesn't suggest anything programming related - senior developer. So my question is, what would be a good title to stick on the end that might actually help communicate that I am actually a developer? As it is now, I'm largely a solo developer (hence the lack of suitable job titles) so I do everything and I feel my title should communicate so degree of seniority (hence not just "programmer" or "developer" or "code monkey"). Any suggestions (serious or otherwise)?

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        Matt U
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        I understand completely on this one and I'm sort of in the same boat, though I'm not looking for another job. I've been writing software here for about two years. They are trying to work out a job title that best fits my job duties, including programming, database and server maintenance, computer repairs, and a bunch of other things which are IT related. They're still trying to get my pay well above what it is now. However, they find it difficult because they don't have any titles which incorporate the things I do, at least not accurately. They (upper management) are trying to work out a job title which incorporates my job duties as completely as possible. They've even mentioned having to create an all new title. I am a solo developer as well which, as you stated, makes it difficult for them to find a title. So I would like to know as well. ;P

        djj55: Nice but may have a permission problem Pete O'Hanlon: He has my permission to run it.

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        • W Wjousts

          I'm seriously thinking about looking for another job, but my current job title is making it annoyingly difficult to explain that yes, I am actually a programmer / developer and yes I've been doing it for the last 8 years. So I asked my current boss (tactfully) if I could change my job title to something that actually reflects what I do. She told me that I can't change my current title (it's part of the corporate job "ladder"), but I can hyphenate is and add whatever I want afterwards. For example: Title that doesn't suggest anything programming related - senior developer. So my question is, what would be a good title to stick on the end that might actually help communicate that I am actually a developer? As it is now, I'm largely a solo developer (hence the lack of suitable job titles) so I do everything and I feel my title should communicate so degree of seniority (hence not just "programmer" or "developer" or "code monkey"). Any suggestions (serious or otherwise)?

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          Code Monkey (evolved)

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            Code Monkey (evolved)

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            Wjousts
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            I like it!

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              I understand completely on this one and I'm sort of in the same boat, though I'm not looking for another job. I've been writing software here for about two years. They are trying to work out a job title that best fits my job duties, including programming, database and server maintenance, computer repairs, and a bunch of other things which are IT related. They're still trying to get my pay well above what it is now. However, they find it difficult because they don't have any titles which incorporate the things I do, at least not accurately. They (upper management) are trying to work out a job title which incorporates my job duties as completely as possible. They've even mentioned having to create an all new title. I am a solo developer as well which, as you stated, makes it difficult for them to find a title. So I would like to know as well. ;P

              djj55: Nice but may have a permission problem Pete O'Hanlon: He has my permission to run it.

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              Marco Bertschi
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              Maybe they end up with something like "The Super Guru programmer God who does magic things we don't understand" :laugh: :laugh:

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                Remember you haven't told your current designation :) , then how shall we suggest you with ? Some companies stick with Program Analyst I, II, II etc may be you can give a try. Else request for Senior Developer , Technical Lead/Team Lead etc Thanks,

                Ranjan.D

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                Wjousts
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                I was a "Research Scientist II", which became a "Research Scientist" the last time they changed the job ladder (which annoyed me no end, because it looks like a demotion), then I got promoted (hooray) to "Senior Research Scientist", then they messed with the ladder again and my title got changed to the utterly stupid "Research Investigator". I told my boss that I hated that title (especially since I lost both "senior" and "scientist") unless it came with a badge and a gun. On the bright side, it gives me some cover to complain about my title without tipping them off that I'm thinking about leaving.

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                • W Wjousts

                  I'm seriously thinking about looking for another job, but my current job title is making it annoyingly difficult to explain that yes, I am actually a programmer / developer and yes I've been doing it for the last 8 years. So I asked my current boss (tactfully) if I could change my job title to something that actually reflects what I do. She told me that I can't change my current title (it's part of the corporate job "ladder"), but I can hyphenate is and add whatever I want afterwards. For example: Title that doesn't suggest anything programming related - senior developer. So my question is, what would be a good title to stick on the end that might actually help communicate that I am actually a developer? As it is now, I'm largely a solo developer (hence the lack of suitable job titles) so I do everything and I feel my title should communicate so degree of seniority (hence not just "programmer" or "developer" or "code monkey"). Any suggestions (serious or otherwise)?

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                  You're letting her get away with this? May I suggest: Pansy. :-D PRO-TIP: When you get a different job make sure you let her know the whole job title issue is the reason why you left the company. Tell them you're big on flexibility in that area and that your new job doesn't pay more but you get to chose your own title.

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                  • M Marco Bertschi

                    Maybe they end up with something like "The Super Guru programmer God who does magic things we don't understand" :laugh: :laugh:

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                    Wjousts
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                    Sadly, that's how I feel they think about my position and is part of why I want to leave. They have no idea what I'm doing, which was okay for a while, but is now rather unsatisfying.

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                    • W Wjousts

                      I'm seriously thinking about looking for another job, but my current job title is making it annoyingly difficult to explain that yes, I am actually a programmer / developer and yes I've been doing it for the last 8 years. So I asked my current boss (tactfully) if I could change my job title to something that actually reflects what I do. She told me that I can't change my current title (it's part of the corporate job "ladder"), but I can hyphenate is and add whatever I want afterwards. For example: Title that doesn't suggest anything programming related - senior developer. So my question is, what would be a good title to stick on the end that might actually help communicate that I am actually a developer? As it is now, I'm largely a solo developer (hence the lack of suitable job titles) so I do everything and I feel my title should communicate so degree of seniority (hence not just "programmer" or "developer" or "code monkey"). Any suggestions (serious or otherwise)?

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                      I, too, have a silly corporate job title. It sounds impressive, but I hadnt considered that when looking for my next job it might actually be a hindrance.

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                      • L Lost User

                        You're letting her get away with this? May I suggest: Pansy. :-D PRO-TIP: When you get a different job make sure you let her know the whole job title issue is the reason why you left the company. Tell them you're big on flexibility in that area and that your new job doesn't pay more but you get to chose your own title.

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                        Marco Bertschi
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                        MehGerbil wrote:

                        that your new job doesn't pay more but you get to chose your own title.

                        :thumbsup::thumbsup:

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                        • W Wjousts

                          I was a "Research Scientist II", which became a "Research Scientist" the last time they changed the job ladder (which annoyed me no end, because it looks like a demotion), then I got promoted (hooray) to "Senior Research Scientist", then they messed with the ladder again and my title got changed to the utterly stupid "Research Investigator". I told my boss that I hated that title (especially since I lost both "senior" and "scientist") unless it came with a badge and a gun. On the bright side, it gives me some cover to complain about my title without tipping them off that I'm thinking about leaving.

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                          Oh Gosh ! how can some one be designated as Investigator , Heads up for bringing in and sure you deserve a change. I'm sure if you put down the papers they will designate you want ever you wish for, You know crazy managers , management do this very often. Until you raise your voice or heads up these things won't change. Good Luck to you, The best thing is to roll back your designation to Research Scientist II , I love it :) Thanks,

                          Ranjan.D

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                            Maybe they end up with something like "The Super Guru programmer God who does magic things we don't understand" :laugh: :laugh:

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                            Marco Alessandro Bertschi wrote:

                            The Super Guru programmer God who does magic things we don't understand

                            What a coincidence, that is my job title! ;)

                            "State acheived after eating too many chocolate-covered coconut bars - bountiful" Chris C-B

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                            • W Wjousts

                              I'm seriously thinking about looking for another job, but my current job title is making it annoyingly difficult to explain that yes, I am actually a programmer / developer and yes I've been doing it for the last 8 years. So I asked my current boss (tactfully) if I could change my job title to something that actually reflects what I do. She told me that I can't change my current title (it's part of the corporate job "ladder"), but I can hyphenate is and add whatever I want afterwards. For example: Title that doesn't suggest anything programming related - senior developer. So my question is, what would be a good title to stick on the end that might actually help communicate that I am actually a developer? As it is now, I'm largely a solo developer (hence the lack of suitable job titles) so I do everything and I feel my title should communicate so degree of seniority (hence not just "programmer" or "developer" or "code monkey"). Any suggestions (serious or otherwise)?

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                              Dr Walt Fair PE
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                              I had the official job title of "Senior Geoscience Advisor" once and I never figured out what that meant. I have no idea what your official title is, but I would leave it at that and explain what it is you actually do in the job description part.

                              CQ de W5ALT

                              Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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                                Marco Alessandro Bertschi wrote:

                                The Super Guru programmer God who does magic things we don't understand

                                What a coincidence, that is my job title! ;)

                                "State acheived after eating too many chocolate-covered coconut bars - bountiful" Chris C-B

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                                That was my nickname in high school.

                                -- Harvey

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                                  I had the official job title of "Senior Geoscience Advisor" once and I never figured out what that meant. I have no idea what your official title is, but I would leave it at that and explain what it is you actually do in the job description part.

                                  CQ de W5ALT

                                  Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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                                  Wjousts
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                                  In an ideal world, that would work, but in reality, I think people are hitting the title first and jumping to conclusions. Even if they read the description, I think they have trouble getting over that first impression.

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                                    In an ideal world, that would work, but in reality, I think people are hitting the title first and jumping to conclusions. Even if they read the description, I think they have trouble getting over that first impression.

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                                    Dr Walt Fair PE
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                                    Well, in an ideal world I wouldn't want to work for a company that doesn't take the time to read what a prospective employee really can do. Of course, I haven't looked for a job since 1973, the jobs come looking for me no matter what my official title may be.

                                    CQ de W5ALT

                                    Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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                                    • W Wjousts

                                      I'm seriously thinking about looking for another job, but my current job title is making it annoyingly difficult to explain that yes, I am actually a programmer / developer and yes I've been doing it for the last 8 years. So I asked my current boss (tactfully) if I could change my job title to something that actually reflects what I do. She told me that I can't change my current title (it's part of the corporate job "ladder"), but I can hyphenate is and add whatever I want afterwards. For example: Title that doesn't suggest anything programming related - senior developer. So my question is, what would be a good title to stick on the end that might actually help communicate that I am actually a developer? As it is now, I'm largely a solo developer (hence the lack of suitable job titles) so I do everything and I feel my title should communicate so degree of seniority (hence not just "programmer" or "developer" or "code monkey"). Any suggestions (serious or otherwise)?

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                                      Aren't you supposed to put more than just what your job title is on your resume? ;) I think Senior Developer does kind of imply that you are in a senior position in your company. Unless they're trying to imply that you are a senior in the geriatric sense. They did the same thing where I work where all the developers, designers and hardware guys were are all titled as Development Engineer starting at associate up to senior principal engineer . But they do allow us to add to our titles (Within reason) to describe what we actually do on the business cards.

                                      It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                                        Aren't you supposed to put more than just what your job title is on your resume? ;) I think Senior Developer does kind of imply that you are in a senior position in your company. Unless they're trying to imply that you are a senior in the geriatric sense. They did the same thing where I work where all the developers, designers and hardware guys were are all titled as Development Engineer starting at associate up to senior principal engineer . But they do allow us to add to our titles (Within reason) to describe what we actually do on the business cards.

                                        It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                                        Wjousts
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                                        S Houghtelin wrote:

                                        Aren't you supposed to put more than just what your job title is on your resume? ;)

                                        Indeed, and aren't people supposed to read more than the title before jumping to conclusions? If that was the case, I wouldn't be having this problem.

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                                        • W Wjousts

                                          S Houghtelin wrote:

                                          Aren't you supposed to put more than just what your job title is on your resume? ;)

                                          Indeed, and aren't people supposed to read more than the title before jumping to conclusions? If that was the case, I wouldn't be having this problem.

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                                          Wjousts wrote:

                                          aren't people supposed to [Insert Proper Behavior Here] before jumping to conclusions?

                                          If only it were so. But I do get your point. Maybe you can add that as your reason for looking for other work... "Seeking better job title" :laugh:

                                          It was broke, so I fixed it.

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