What would you do?
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Do you know how long it takes for a company with the bank account size of Microsoft to go bankrupt? Moreover, despite what alarmists have said about other companies (i.e. GM), even if Microsoft proper declared bankruptcy, it wouldn't simply disappear. One thing going for Microsoft is that for the size of company it is, it is surprising how fast it can pivot and move in a new direction. In the case of Windows 8, it wouldn't take much work to throw back in Aero and make Windows 9 or Windows 7.1 or whatever you want to call it. Added: I do think Ballmer should go. I also think this guy is shorting Microsoft stock and wants the company to crash. I think he's going to be disappointed.
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I would skip the article, just after reading the title. This kind of 'look at me' titles, often contains crap. :) Windows 7 sell like hotcake because of Windows Vista, Windows Vista never sell like hotcake because of Windows XP. same as Windows 8 is not selling like hotcake because of Windows 7. It depends upon how much new version is improved over the previous version, what this have to do with balmer? He was there since Windows XP...
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"while the entertainment business could be sold to Sony or even Barnes & Noble." This analyst is an idiot. Neither one of them is in any position to buy MS's Entertainment division let alone have th experience to run it. This guy knows absolutely nothing about the industry.
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Dave KreskowiakAnd why sell it? From a purely monetary perspective, why not do what Abbot Laboratories just did and split the company into, say, three pieces, each one public? It would make loads of cash for everyone involved.
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SASS_Shooter wrote:
what would you do if Microsoft does, indeed, go belly up in the next few years because of the Windows 8 debacle?
Nothing, because it isn't going to happen, and I'm finally expanding into Linux related activities anyways. The world will go on with whatever form Microsoft (and all the rest) morphs into to adjust for the needs (real or imagined) of people, and they will continue to tell us what we need (real or imagined) to create new market spaces. The wheel will keep turning, in other words. Marc
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Even if that happens, people will continue to use XP for an other century. Or maybe Windows 7, if they're hip. But it doesn't really matter does it, programming is programming, and learning new technologies every year (or more frequently) is something that Microsoft is effectively forcing us to do anyway, so that's nothing new.
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SASS_Shooter wrote:
You mean one more article that appears from someone that appears to bash Microsoft quite a bit?
SASS_Shooter wrote:
what would you do if Microsoft does, indeed, go belly up in the next few years because of the Windows 8 debacle?
Probably buy several guns and a lot of ammo because the only way that Microsoft can go "belly up" in a "few" years is if the world ends.
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Sony could buy the game and "entertainment" division of Microsoft; they have experience with that.
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Do you know how long it takes for a company with the bank account size of Microsoft to go bankrupt? Moreover, despite what alarmists have said about other companies (i.e. GM), even if Microsoft proper declared bankruptcy, it wouldn't simply disappear. One thing going for Microsoft is that for the size of company it is, it is surprising how fast it can pivot and move in a new direction. In the case of Windows 8, it wouldn't take much work to throw back in Aero and make Windows 9 or Windows 7.1 or whatever you want to call it. Added: I do think Ballmer should go. I also think this guy is shorting Microsoft stock and wants the company to crash. I think he's going to be disappointed.
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Maximilien wrote:
Sony could buy the game and "entertainment" division of Microsoft;
I suspect not. They probably can't afford that big of an investment.
When a company buys a competitor, they expect to gain its share of revenue from those competitors. They can borrow on the guaranty of those revenues.
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SASS_Shooter wrote:
because of the Windows 8 debacle
Since when Windows 8 became failure? I realize it’s a matter of personal opinion but for me the concept is quite smart and well implemented. For years and years we used to have a huge utterly useless space on our screen in both Windows and Linux. Now Microsoft is trying to find some use of this “wallpaper holder”. What’s wrong with that?
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If he's not, he's a hypocrite.
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SASS_Shooter wrote:
because of the Windows 8 debacle
Since when Windows 8 became failure? I realize it’s a matter of personal opinion but for me the concept is quite smart and well implemented. For years and years we used to have a huge utterly useless space on our screen in both Windows and Linux. Now Microsoft is trying to find some use of this “wallpaper holder”. What’s wrong with that?
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I don't like Windows 8, but this is a point I've made before: when I ran my company, I wish it "failed" as bad as Windows 8. Heck, every company I ever worked at aspired to "fail" as badly.
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If he's not, he's a hypocrite.
Or trying to follow a professional ethics code... writing (positively or negatively) about stock you own is a conflict of interest.
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public void Analyze() where TCompany : Company
{if(typeof(TCompany) == typeof(Microsoft))
{
throw new IdTenTException("ID-TEN-T", new BrainNotFoundException("Error 404: Brain Not Found", new IHateMicrosoftException()));
}
//............
}//...........
public static void Main(string[] args)
{Analyze();
}
is what I have to say. Idiot. (Not you, the analyst.)
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Or trying to follow a professional ethics code... writing (positively or negatively) about stock you own is a conflict of interest.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
I could not find Adam Hartung's disclosed stock holdings anywhere. That said, I don't trust any analysts advice if they don't have stake in the game. But, Hartung is not a journalist--he's a businessman pushing his consulting business and spouting off. Hartung strikes me as one of those guys who had a good career in business and now thinks he's smarter than anyone in the room. He throws enough predictions around that when enough hit, he becomes right to his followers (see Jim Cramer.) (Again; I don't like Ballmer, but to say he's the worse CEO is nonsense. See HP. Most CEOs would love to be as "bad" as Ballmer and for their company to "fail" as badly as Microsoft. Fact is Microsoft had a great year by any objective measure, especially when you factor in a $6 billion write down they made.)
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I would go back to writing procedural code for CP/M-like operating systems, knowing that they're bound to make a comeback once Microsoft is gone. We can probably expect software developers to start writing actual manuals again, too, once the company that created the useless concept of online "help" is gone, so I might invest a bit in paper products stocks.
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SASS_Shooter wrote:
because of the Windows 8 debacle
Since when Windows 8 became failure? I realize it’s a matter of personal opinion but for me the concept is quite smart and well implemented. For years and years we used to have a huge utterly useless space on our screen in both Windows and Linux. Now Microsoft is trying to find some use of this “wallpaper holder”. What’s wrong with that?
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I think it works on a tablet but on a non-touch screen device the desktop makes more sense. Also there is a habit nowadays for novelty to be seen as progress, this is not in my opinion the case. So from a cynical point of view it seems to be also about generating new revenue streams without taking all the users into account(just like the ribbon business users are now going to have to learn a new interface when all they want to do is get their work done.). My opinion for what it's worth...
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It won't. Windows 8 might be a disaster, relatively speaking ... but no more so than ME or Vista. Companies will still buy Windows machines, even if it's still W7. W8 looks like being a moderate success in the phone and tablet market, for which it is actually designed, so it won't even be written off development time if it doesn't make it in the desktop market. Microsoft also have a profitable console operation, and extremely successful business software division (Office, SQL Server, Visual Studio etc).
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I tend to ignore such bollocks from idiots who just want to prove that they exist. Microsoft announces record Q4, $18.06 billion in revenue[^]
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