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    stevev6
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    Just a note on the zoom.us video conference company. Be sure you read the terms-of-service. Here is a portion that says if you share your desktop with the meeting, that content automatically becomes theirs and they are allowed to sell it at will. Pretty gutsy. You understand and agree that by displaying, exchanging or uploading Content to a Zoom website transmitting Content using the Products or otherwise providing Content to Zoom, You automatically grant (and warrant and represent You have a right to grant) to Zoom a world-wide, royalty-free, sublicensable (so Zoom affiliates, contractors, resellers and partners can deliver the Products) perpetual, irrevocable license to use, modify, publicly perform, publicly display, reproduce and distribute the Content in the course of offering the Products.

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      Just a note on the zoom.us video conference company. Be sure you read the terms-of-service. Here is a portion that says if you share your desktop with the meeting, that content automatically becomes theirs and they are allowed to sell it at will. Pretty gutsy. You understand and agree that by displaying, exchanging or uploading Content to a Zoom website transmitting Content using the Products or otherwise providing Content to Zoom, You automatically grant (and warrant and represent You have a right to grant) to Zoom a world-wide, royalty-free, sublicensable (so Zoom affiliates, contractors, resellers and partners can deliver the Products) perpetual, irrevocable license to use, modify, publicly perform, publicly display, reproduce and distribute the Content in the course of offering the Products.

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      Rage
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      Seems that they got some inspiration from farcebook.

      ~RaGE();

      I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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        Just a note on the zoom.us video conference company. Be sure you read the terms-of-service. Here is a portion that says if you share your desktop with the meeting, that content automatically becomes theirs and they are allowed to sell it at will. Pretty gutsy. You understand and agree that by displaying, exchanging or uploading Content to a Zoom website transmitting Content using the Products or otherwise providing Content to Zoom, You automatically grant (and warrant and represent You have a right to grant) to Zoom a world-wide, royalty-free, sublicensable (so Zoom affiliates, contractors, resellers and partners can deliver the Products) perpetual, irrevocable license to use, modify, publicly perform, publicly display, reproduce and distribute the Content in the course of offering the Products.

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        Dan Neely
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        At first glance, that looks a lot like the licenses cited in "OMG they're stealing my pictures" threads that periodically appear by people freaking out at the minimum rights that are needed to host 3rd party content.

        Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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          At first glance, that looks a lot like the licenses cited in "OMG they're stealing my pictures" threads that periodically appear by people freaking out at the minimum rights that are needed to host 3rd party content.

          Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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          stevev6
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          Yeah, that's true, but they are trying to monetize this by selling to enterprises. I just wanted people to know going in that their IP could be at risk. It is my belief that if you discussed a patent using that technology, it immediately becomes public domain.

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            Yeah, that's true, but they are trying to monetize this by selling to enterprises. I just wanted people to know going in that their IP could be at risk. It is my belief that if you discussed a patent using that technology, it immediately becomes public domain.

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            jschell
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            stevev6 wrote:

            Yeah, that's true, but they are trying to monetize this by selling to enterprises.

            I doubt it. Such terms are necessary to allow them to actually perform the service that they do without someone suing them for that very implementation.

            stevev6 wrote:

            It is my belief that if you discussed a patent using that technology, it immediately becomes public domain.

            Perhaps you meant something like a trade secret. A patent is already in the public domain and exposure of such means nothing. But the it is pointless anyways. If you want security then your choices are to provide your own security or rely on the security of someone else. There is no other choice.

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