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  • A Abhinav S

    ...and got rejected in 20 minutes. The interview was for an MS specialist. The interviewer said he was an MS "senior" specialist. He then asked me about something called Tibco. I told him I had never heard of it. He asked me if I knew anything about third parties for managing product catalogs. I said no. He said he had asked enough. End of story. :wtf:

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    Rage
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    Abhinav S wrote:

    Tibco.

    The supermarket ? Had to google it to know what it was.

    Abhinav S wrote:

    third parties for managing product catalogs

    Never say no. I usually answer this by telling: "- Yeah, I have been using the Gullib Library for years, V5.4 from 2011 being the last one, but as it is THE standard every big company is using, we do not need to talk about it further more, it must be used here as well, ain't it so ?"

    Abhinav S wrote:

    The interview was for an MS specialist.

    Have you asked if you had the same understanding of MS ? The acronym might mean something else in his world...

    ~RaGE();

    I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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    • A Abhinav S

      ...and got rejected in 20 minutes. The interview was for an MS specialist. The interviewer said he was an MS "senior" specialist. He then asked me about something called Tibco. I told him I had never heard of it. He asked me if I knew anything about third parties for managing product catalogs. I said no. He said he had asked enough. End of story. :wtf:

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      Matthew Faithfull
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      Sounds like he might have been looking for a Marks & Spencer specialist rather than a MicroSoft specialist. I know a few M&S specialists but none of them are looking for a job, they're all too busy shopping.

      "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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        Abhinav S wrote:

        Tibco.

        The supermarket ? Had to google it to know what it was.

        Abhinav S wrote:

        third parties for managing product catalogs

        Never say no. I usually answer this by telling: "- Yeah, I have been using the Gullib Library for years, V5.4 from 2011 being the last one, but as it is THE standard every big company is using, we do not need to talk about it further more, it must be used here as well, ain't it so ?"

        Abhinav S wrote:

        The interview was for an MS specialist.

        Have you asked if you had the same understanding of MS ? The acronym might mean something else in his world...

        ~RaGE();

        I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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        Abhinav S
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        Rage wrote:

        Have you asked if you had the same understanding of MS ?

        *Groan* should have checked that.

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        • P Pete OHanlon

          Ah, sounds like he was a senior BS specialist.

          I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
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          Abhinav S
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          He asked me how I would make a web site secure. I said, for one thing, I could use Silverlight since there is minimal scripting involved, thus reducing chances of scripting attacks. He ignored my answer. So yes he was a BA. Of course, I could have said I use httpUrlEncode, but I don't think it would have made a difference.

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          • S Septimus Hedgehog

            If nothing else, didn't they at least offer you something to drink? Something to at least make the journey worthwhile?

            "I do not have to forgive my enemies, I have had them all shot." — Ramón Maria Narváez (1800-68). "I don't need to shoot my enemies, I don't have any." - Me (2012).

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            Abhinav S
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            Naah - I paid for the travel. ;sigh:

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            • A Abhinav S

              ...and got rejected in 20 minutes. The interview was for an MS specialist. The interviewer said he was an MS "senior" specialist. He then asked me about something called Tibco. I told him I had never heard of it. He asked me if I knew anything about third parties for managing product catalogs. I said no. He said he had asked enough. End of story. :wtf:

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              GuyThiebaut
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              Well he wasted your time but it's probably good, for you, that you don't work for someone as curt as that ;)

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              • A Abhinav S

                ...and got rejected in 20 minutes. The interview was for an MS specialist. The interviewer said he was an MS "senior" specialist. He then asked me about something called Tibco. I told him I had never heard of it. He asked me if I knew anything about third parties for managing product catalogs. I said no. He said he had asked enough. End of story. :wtf:

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                Jorgen Andersson
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                Maybe he was an S&M specialist and you were lucky to escape.

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                • A Abhinav S

                  He asked me how I would make a web site secure. I said, for one thing, I could use Silverlight since there is minimal scripting involved, thus reducing chances of scripting attacks. He ignored my answer. So yes he was a BA. Of course, I could have said I use httpUrlEncode, but I don't think it would have made a difference.

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                  Ankur m
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                  There is a huge topic and most companies have specialist for it. But you could have mentioned about best practices that we follow as a developer.

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                  • A Abhinav S

                    ...and got rejected in 20 minutes. The interview was for an MS specialist. The interviewer said he was an MS "senior" specialist. He then asked me about something called Tibco. I told him I had never heard of it. He asked me if I knew anything about third parties for managing product catalogs. I said no. He said he had asked enough. End of story. :wtf:

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                    Super Lloyd
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                    Lucky you, you just escaped a bad company!! ^^

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                    • A Abhinav S

                      He asked me how I would make a web site secure. I said, for one thing, I could use Silverlight since there is minimal scripting involved, thus reducing chances of scripting attacks. He ignored my answer. So yes he was a BA. Of course, I could have said I use httpUrlEncode, but I don't think it would have made a difference.

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                      Nish Nishant
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                      Gotta say your answer was very weak.

                      Regards, Nish


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                      • A Ankur m

                        There is a huge topic and most companies have specialist for it. But you could have mentioned about best practices that we follow as a developer.

                        ..Go Green..

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                        Nish Nishant
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                        I agree. The way he answered that, the other person would have thought he was trying to get out of answering it to hide the fact that it's not a strong area. Sometimes it's all about perception.

                        Regards, Nish


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                        • A Abhinav S

                          ...and got rejected in 20 minutes. The interview was for an MS specialist. The interviewer said he was an MS "senior" specialist. He then asked me about something called Tibco. I told him I had never heard of it. He asked me if I knew anything about third parties for managing product catalogs. I said no. He said he had asked enough. End of story. :wtf:

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                          _beauw_
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                          Getting hired is all about figuring out what the interviewer's pet product / pet algorithm / pet data structure happens to be that day. If the man across the table just read about super-duper reversible spanning Croatian B-Trees, you'd better come up with that as your answer, or you're out of luck.

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                          • N Nish Nishant

                            Gotta say your answer was very weak.

                            Regards, Nish


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                            Abhinav S
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                            Yeah perhaps. I think I was not ready for that question. I did say I could disable scripting. I might have got to cookies but somehow I missed it. Frankly though, I just could not recollect httpUrlEncode at that time.

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                            • A Abhinav S

                              Yeah perhaps. I think I was not ready for that question. I did say I could disable scripting. I might have got to cookies but somehow I missed it. Frankly though, I just could not recollect httpUrlEncode at that time.

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                              Nish Nishant
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                              Abhinav S wrote:

                              I did say I could disable scripting.
                              I might have got to cookies but somehow I missed it.

                              But those were wrong answers. These are all things the client would do or could do, not something the web-dev would do on the server side code.

                              Abhinav S wrote:

                              Frankly though, I just could not recollect httpUrlEncode at that time.

                              That's probably just one of several different approaches people usually take. So overall you cannot blame the guy for not picking you, since you did not meet his expected skill set (which seems to be that for a senior web developer with a fairly good knowledge of web security). So the bigger question is why they called you for an interview for a skillset that's different from the ones you possess. This was perhaps due to a communication issue.

                              Regards, Nish


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                              • A Abhinav S

                                ...and got rejected in 20 minutes. The interview was for an MS specialist. The interviewer said he was an MS "senior" specialist. He then asked me about something called Tibco. I told him I had never heard of it. He asked me if I knew anything about third parties for managing product catalogs. I said no. He said he had asked enough. End of story. :wtf:

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                                Sounds like that guy just wanted you to know who he thought was the smartest person in that room.

                                Brent

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                                  Abhinav S wrote:

                                  I did say I could disable scripting.
                                  I might have got to cookies but somehow I missed it.

                                  But those were wrong answers. These are all things the client would do or could do, not something the web-dev would do on the server side code.

                                  Abhinav S wrote:

                                  Frankly though, I just could not recollect httpUrlEncode at that time.

                                  That's probably just one of several different approaches people usually take. So overall you cannot blame the guy for not picking you, since you did not meet his expected skill set (which seems to be that for a senior web developer with a fairly good knowledge of web security). So the bigger question is why they called you for an interview for a skillset that's different from the ones you possess. This was perhaps due to a communication issue.

                                  Regards, Nish


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                                  Abhinav S
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                                  Nish Sivakumar wrote:

                                  a fairly good knowledge of web security).

                                  That would make sense. What had Tibco got to do with it?

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                                    Sounds like that guy just wanted you to know who he thought was the smartest person in that room.

                                    Brent

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                                    _beauw_
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                                    Most of my technical interviewers have left little doubt about the matter. I always wonder who those people actually end up hiring.

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                                    • A Abhinav S

                                      Nish Sivakumar wrote:

                                      a fairly good knowledge of web security).

                                      That would make sense. What had Tibco got to do with it?

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                                      Nish Nishant
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                                      I don't know what Tibco is but they may be doing 3rd party contract work for Tibco (perhaps a web-based project).

                                      Regards, Nish


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                                        I don't know what Tibco is but they may be doing 3rd party contract work for Tibco (perhaps a web-based project).

                                        Regards, Nish


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                                        Abhinav S
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                                        Tibco is an EAI solution. A module of Tibco provides an event based cloud computing solution for business intelligence - which is probably what he wanted to ask about. The best I could do was read about Tibco once I was out of the interview room.

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