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What stops you from telecommuting ?

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  • R Raj Lal

    i agree, nothing beats a face to face chat

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    Mark_Wallace
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    Raj Lal wrote:

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    ... Which includes every word in that God-awful book. If you want to learn to write better English, stay far away from that garbage.

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      Raj Lal wrote:

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      ... Which includes every word in that God-awful book. If you want to learn to write better English, stay far away from that garbage.

      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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      Raj Lal
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      Mark_Wallace wrote:

      stay far away from that

      I would love to know what would you recommend to learn or write better english.

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      • R Raj Lal

        Mark_Wallace wrote:

        stay far away from that

        I would love to know what would you recommend to learn or write better english.

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        If you must use a style guide, then Oxford/Hart's style guide, or anything from David Crystal. But bear in mind that style guides do not tell you about rules of grammar; they only tell you about the preferences of the author, which should not be taken as rules (no matter how loudly the authors shout that they should). A basic grammar book is all you really need (the smaller, the better; English has remarkably few actual rules). That and 20 years' practice in communicating with the written word, if you're writing for multiple readerships -- your target readership has to understand your full meaning after having read the text only once, that's the real target. Strunk was a university professor, who wrote his style guide for his students to follow when submitting work to him, so it is entirely based on what made it easier for him to mark papers, containing "rules" that are just plain wrong (e.g. the cr@p about passive voice), and are incredibly dumbed down. E. B. White later expanded worsened Strunk's text, by adding his own views -- i.e. the views of a person who wrote stories for young children, so it was driven even deeper into a niche that applies to almost no-one, and dumbed down yet further. It is one of the worst books on the English language that has ever been published.

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        • R Raj Lal

          great :) What are the software you use for day to day activities ?

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          Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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          For collab stuff? Our needs are pretty basic, so nothing too fancy. Asana[^] (task management), and Skype[^] (IM/VOIP) are the main two. We're also considering adopting an online CRM solution such as Insightly[^] rather than the homebrew setup we have at the moment. If you are working in a larger team I've heard good things about Code Collaborator[^].

          Anna :rose: Tech Blog | Visual Lint "Why would anyone prefer to wield a weapon that takes both hands at once, when they could use a lighter (and obviously superior) weapon that allows you to wield multiple ones at a time, and thus supports multi-paradigm carnage?"

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          • R Raj Lal

            but won't you be more independent WFH ?

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            Lost User
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            "More indepenant"? How so?

            Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] They hate us for our freedom![^]

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            • R Raj Lal

              there was a study in UK that telecommuters are more productive, http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/business/2012/04/telecommuters-more-productive-in-uk-study/[^] I ,might miss small talks with my colleagues but that's it ? Save my commute time and that make me more productive. What stops you from tele-commuting?

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              BobJanova
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              I work in a team environment and it's much more efficient actually being in the same place. I've tried home working and it is not more efficient for me.

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              • R Raj Lal

                there was a study in UK that telecommuters are more productive, http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/business/2012/04/telecommuters-more-productive-in-uk-study/[^] I ,might miss small talks with my colleagues but that's it ? Save my commute time and that make me more productive. What stops you from tele-commuting?

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                Lost User
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                (1) I'm less productive at home - more distractions. (2) The fear that if I can do my job from home, then somebody else in another country can also do it for way less money.

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                • R Raj Lal

                  there was a study in UK that telecommuters are more productive, http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/business/2012/04/telecommuters-more-productive-in-uk-study/[^] I ,might miss small talks with my colleagues but that's it ? Save my commute time and that make me more productive. What stops you from tele-commuting?

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                  DawnnaLewis
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                  I started telecommuting 2 years ago with one day at home. My boss said I got so much more done at home and eventually gave me Monday, Wednesday and Friday at home. I still make appearances at work on Tuesdays and Thursdays if needed but I find myself wondering down the hall to see friends when I am in the office. Saves me $50 a month in gas and 2 hours a day in commute time, of course I am going to get more done at home. I have a dedicated home office, but find myself in the lazy boy with my laptop next to the fire most of the time now. I love my job.

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                  • R Raj Lal

                    there was a study in UK that telecommuters are more productive, http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/business/2012/04/telecommuters-more-productive-in-uk-study/[^] I ,might miss small talks with my colleagues but that's it ? Save my commute time and that make me more productive. What stops you from tele-commuting?

                    Omit Needless Words - Strunk, William, Jr.


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                    MerlinsBones
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                    I worked at home for several years and it was great for me. I have a home office set up, so in the morning I would get a cup of coffee go in my office and start working. I found that not only was I more productive but typically I put in more hours. There are many pluses to work from home. It save gas, wear and tear on my car, I can let my dog out (now she waits 12 hours), less dry cleaning, and food is there when it's lunch time instead of making it the night before. In the office cube, there are several people that do not understand that there is an inside voice and an outside voice. Their main purpose seems to be to socialize. What stops me from telecommuting? In short, my company. Not everyone actually works when they "work from home" and it has had an impact on those of us who do. The only benefit to be in an office is that the people who are seen are promoted.

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                    • R Raj Lal

                      there was a study in UK that telecommuters are more productive, http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/business/2012/04/telecommuters-more-productive-in-uk-study/[^] I ,might miss small talks with my colleagues but that's it ? Save my commute time and that make me more productive. What stops you from tele-commuting?

                      Omit Needless Words - Strunk, William, Jr.


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                      SlowFatRunner
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                      - I feel that I'm more productive on those occasions when I work from home. I make more of a conscious effort to be more productive to make sure (1) I don't abuse the system (b) others don't assume that I'm abusing the system. I have broadband at home. I use my work laptop to VPN into the corporate infrastructure. It is just like I'm in the office with all my tools and resources at my fingertips. - Nearly every single day that I go into the office, I contemplate staying at home to work. The thing that gets me to go to the office? Our noon running group. Three of the days are social runs and two are hard workouts. Both types of runs motivate me to endure the commute and the office. The older I get, the greater role this run serves to get me into the office. Larry

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                      • R Raj Lal

                        there was a study in UK that telecommuters are more productive, http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/business/2012/04/telecommuters-more-productive-in-uk-study/[^] I ,might miss small talks with my colleagues but that's it ? Save my commute time and that make me more productive. What stops you from tele-commuting?

                        Omit Needless Words - Strunk, William, Jr.


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                        RafagaX
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                        Nothing, that's what I do, but being fair, the work I do is give support for a software; that, honestly, can be done anywhere in the world as long as I have access to an internet connection and a laptop.

                        CEO at: - Rafaga Systems - Para Facturas - Modern Components for the moment...

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                        • R Raj Lal

                          there was a study in UK that telecommuters are more productive, http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/business/2012/04/telecommuters-more-productive-in-uk-study/[^] I ,might miss small talks with my colleagues but that's it ? Save my commute time and that make me more productive. What stops you from tele-commuting?

                          Omit Needless Words - Strunk, William, Jr.


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                          Bruce Patin
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                          I worked from home for two years and made a nice home office with custom made desk and built-in shelves. It stopped when my boss needed my physical presence to operate the mainframes we had for testing, because somebody had to push the buttons a lot, even though most of the work could be done remotely. The hard part was my other boss' (guess who) requirement to do the laundry in my "spare time", in addition to other simple tasks, such as repave our driveway. And now, my home office has been totally taken over by her and my oldest son. I work on a dining room table, and have to pack up all of my books and papers the day before cleaning day. Actually, I don't work on those mainframes anymore, but given the above, and the fact that my current nice office with a window is only 7 minutes away, and I do occasionally have to push buttons or chat informally with colleagues, it is a pleasure to go to work.

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                          • R Raj Lal

                            there was a study in UK that telecommuters are more productive, http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/business/2012/04/telecommuters-more-productive-in-uk-study/[^] I ,might miss small talks with my colleagues but that's it ? Save my commute time and that make me more productive. What stops you from tele-commuting?

                            Omit Needless Words - Strunk, William, Jr.


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                            mthenhaus
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                            Nothing. I have been telecommuting for the last 5 years. I love working from home and am very productive. It does take discipline, and discipline is the most important trait of good software engineers.

                            "The 50-50-90 rule: Anytime you have a 50-50 chance of getting something right, there's a 90% probability you'll get it wrong". - Andy Rooney

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                            • R Raj Lal

                              there was a study in UK that telecommuters are more productive, http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/business/2012/04/telecommuters-more-productive-in-uk-study/[^] I ,might miss small talks with my colleagues but that's it ? Save my commute time and that make me more productive. What stops you from tele-commuting?

                              Omit Needless Words - Strunk, William, Jr.


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                              Jim SS
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                              I did for about 10 years. Much more efficient, got to see my kids ballgames, take my kids to school, eat lunch with my wife every day. Some companies have a problem with telecommuting primarily because the managers have difficulty managing when they can't see the employees. There's also the problem of getting your employees to work 10-12 hours a day when you can't see them. But if you can get 12 hours work done in 8 hours they still want you to work more. Sweatshop is the best description I can give.

                              SS => Qualified in Submarines "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm". Winston Churchill "Real programmers can write FORTRAN in any language". Unknown

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                              • R Raj Lal

                                there was a study in UK that telecommuters are more productive, http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/business/2012/04/telecommuters-more-productive-in-uk-study/[^] I ,might miss small talks with my colleagues but that's it ? Save my commute time and that make me more productive. What stops you from tele-commuting?

                                Omit Needless Words - Strunk, William, Jr.


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                                BrainiacV
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                                At one time, nothing. I was able to trade an 80 minute commute to work for 30 seconds to get into my basement computer room. I was able to do that for seven years before the company decided to dissolve the department. I found I was far more productive. I could work all night if I wanted to and did not have to suffer the interruptions of the office. They had to be concise to give me instructions instead of, "Let's have a meeting" where 5+ people sat around trying to decide what they wanted done. When I was telecommuting, I'd be phone conferenced in to some of these meetings and unfortunately for me, when they would ask how long it would take, I could say "It's already done." I'd have been sitting at my computer and working on the problem while they jabbered among themselves. I should have said "a week" and then got it done after a few days of goofing off and develop a reputation for getting things done ahead of schedule. Instead there was nothing to be remembered at review time. I did see others who couldn't telecommute because their boss wanted to do "bed checks" that everyone was at their desk at 8 AM. There were also bosses who were unable to articulate what they wanted done and you had to come into their office so they could gesture at a screen and express what they wanted done. As a manager now, I have to come in to help my minions and more importantly perform tasks on systems that are in a secured location and not on the network. I do let my minions telecommute if the weather is bad or their kids are at home from school holidays or illness.

                                Psychosis at 10 Film at 11 Those who do not remember the past, are doomed to repeat it. Those who do not remember the past, cannot build upon it.

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                                • R Raj Lal

                                  PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                                  I've tried.

                                  what went wrong ?

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                                  Aner Bautista
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                                  I think he has a Wife and kids!!! :laugh:

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                                  • R Raj Lal

                                    there was a study in UK that telecommuters are more productive, http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/business/2012/04/telecommuters-more-productive-in-uk-study/[^] I ,might miss small talks with my colleagues but that's it ? Save my commute time and that make me more productive. What stops you from tele-commuting?

                                    Omit Needless Words - Strunk, William, Jr.


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                                    Florin Jurcovici 0
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                                    :-D My employer. It's company policy _not_ to telecommute. He probably didn't read that study.

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                                    • R Raj Lal

                                      there was a study in UK that telecommuters are more productive, http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/business/2012/04/telecommuters-more-productive-in-uk-study/[^] I ,might miss small talks with my colleagues but that's it ? Save my commute time and that make me more productive. What stops you from tele-commuting?

                                      Omit Needless Words - Strunk, William, Jr.


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                                      Mike Riley QUSA
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                                      I did it when working at Sun Microsystems and was very productive. It allowed me to communicate with people in Europe in the morning and China or India in the evening. Plus we had a VPN solution that made my system act like it was in the Menlo Park campus network, which was not possible within the office network. Code checkouts and checkins had to be done from there or they were terribly slow if you used an NFS mount across the WAN. Unlike a lot of VPN, I still had visibility of my local network devices, so I could print to my network printer. Since my home network was as fast or faster than what I had to share at the office with 75 people, I got better network performance as well. We also had a phone setup that allowed us to have an extension on the company phone network that could be directed to whatever phone you happened to be at, complete with voicemail. We could also get faxes and place outgoing calls so there was no additional costs you had to expense. My round trip commute was 3 hours before that, assuming there was no traffic problems. So putting in a 10 hour workday to resolve an issue was still less time than I used to spend when you figure in a commute. I turned the system on when I woke up and it stayed on until I went to bed, keeping me in communication for a good 12-16 hours per day. I know my productivity improved because I didn't have to allow for my commute time. The key was my office was at one end of the house, away from all other distractions. It probably didn't hurt that my boss worked in a different office than I did, so face time with him had always involved one of us traveling. Mike

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                                      • R Raj Lal

                                        there was a study in UK that telecommuters are more productive, http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/business/2012/04/telecommuters-more-productive-in-uk-study/[^] I ,might miss small talks with my colleagues but that's it ? Save my commute time and that make me more productive. What stops you from tele-commuting?

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                                        Mathew Crothers
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                                        Kids

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                                          I think he has a Wife and kids!!! :laugh:

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                                          PIEBALDconsult
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                                          And porn.

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