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    Espen Harlinn
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    Got my new computer today w/Windows 8, while the OS has tons of new features, I mean APIs', that I'm looking forward to exploring - I find the shell UI so intuitive that I have to use Google on my Windows 7 machine to figure things out.

    Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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      Got my new computer today w/Windows 8, while the OS has tons of new features, I mean APIs', that I'm looking forward to exploring - I find the shell UI so intuitive that I have to use Google on my Windows 7 machine to figure things out.

      Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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      Espen Harlinn wrote:

      Got my new computer today w/Windows 8

      My sincere condolances! :sigh:

      Espen Harlinn wrote:

      I find the shell UI so intuitive that I have to use Google on my Windows 7 machine to figure things out.

      I had the same problem X|

      Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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      Just because a thing is new don’t mean that it’s better - Will Rogers, September 4, 1932

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        Espen Harlinn wrote:

        Got my new computer today w/Windows 8

        My sincere condolances! :sigh:

        Espen Harlinn wrote:

        I find the shell UI so intuitive that I have to use Google on my Windows 7 machine to figure things out.

        I had the same problem X|

        Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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        Beidh ceol, caint agus craic againn - Seán Bán Breathnach
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        Da mihi sis crustum Etruscum cum omnibus in eo!
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        Just because a thing is new don’t mean that it’s better - Will Rogers, September 4, 1932

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        Espen Harlinn
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        A few very small additions would make things one heck of a lot better - I guess I'll have to go hunting for a few utilities ...

        Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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          Let us know if you find any good ones! :thumbsup:

          Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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          Just because a thing is new don’t mean that it’s better - Will Rogers, September 4, 1932

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          Espen Harlinn
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          Will do, or roll my own ...

          Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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            A few very small additions would make things one heck of a lot better - I guess I'll have to go hunting for a few utilities ...

            Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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            Let us know if you find any good ones! :thumbsup:

            Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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            Beidh ceol, caint agus craic againn - Seán Bán Breathnach
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            Da mihi sis crustum Etruscum cum omnibus in eo!
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            Just because a thing is new don’t mean that it’s better - Will Rogers, September 4, 1932

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              A few very small additions would make things one heck of a lot better - I guess I'll have to go hunting for a few utilities ...

              Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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              If not, then here's the offer for you[^]

              Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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              Beidh ceol, caint agus craic againn - Seán Bán Breathnach
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              Da mihi sis crustum Etruscum cum omnibus in eo!
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              Just because a thing is new don’t mean that it’s better - Will Rogers, September 4, 1932

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                If not, then here's the offer for you[^]

                Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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                Beidh ceol, caint agus craic againn - Seán Bán Breathnach
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                Da mihi sis crustum Etruscum cum omnibus in eo!
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                Just because a thing is new don’t mean that it’s better - Will Rogers, September 4, 1932

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                Espen Harlinn
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                :laugh: :thumbsup: right ...

                Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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                  Will do, or roll my own ...

                  Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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                  Espen Harlinn wrote:

                  roll my own ...

                  I don't think smoking weed will help the Windows 8 user experience, I'm afraid. But it could be worth a try... :laugh:

                  Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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                  Beidh ceol, caint agus craic againn - Seán Bán Breathnach
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                  Da mihi sis crustum Etruscum cum omnibus in eo!
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                  Just because a thing is new don’t mean that it’s better - Will Rogers, September 4, 1932

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                    Got my new computer today w/Windows 8, while the OS has tons of new features, I mean APIs', that I'm looking forward to exploring - I find the shell UI so intuitive that I have to use Google on my Windows 7 machine to figure things out.

                    Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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                    I find W8 very good. A few hurdles at the beginning ( "now, wait, how do you shutdown the computer ?" :-O ), but otherwise really good. Replaced IE with Chrome, since this "Tablet" full screen modus did not really fit.

                    ~RaGE();

                    I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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                      I find W8 very good. A few hurdles at the beginning ( "now, wait, how do you shutdown the computer ?" :-O ), but otherwise really good. Replaced IE with Chrome, since this "Tablet" full screen modus did not really fit.

                      ~RaGE();

                      I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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                      Espen Harlinn
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                      Rage wrote:

                      I find W8 very good.

                      I expect I will too, once I get used to the oddities. My new computer is a HP Elitebook 8570w[^], it's not a tablet - I'll be using it with 30" and 24" screens, mouse and a keyboard.

                      Rage wrote:

                      how do you shutdown the computer ?

                      That's when I had to use Google :-O

                      Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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                        Got my new computer today w/Windows 8, while the OS has tons of new features, I mean APIs', that I'm looking forward to exploring - I find the shell UI so intuitive that I have to use Google on my Windows 7 machine to figure things out.

                        Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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                        This is really useful to get started with. http://www.hanselman.com/blog/TheMissingWindows8InstructionalVideo.aspx[^]

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                          Got my new computer today w/Windows 8, while the OS has tons of new features, I mean APIs', that I'm looking forward to exploring - I find the shell UI so intuitive that I have to use Google on my Windows 7 machine to figure things out.

                          Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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                          I like the improvements to explorer. The start screen has the same keyboard usage as the old start menu, so it's visually scary, but works good enough for me. Still, currently I'm using Pokki[^] as start menu replacement, besides the appstore adds it's actually a good demonstration how a modern UI could be. (I can't find fault wiht ModernUI, but the current implementaiton - especially the MS App Store - is abysmal.)

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                            Got my new computer today w/Windows 8, while the OS has tons of new features, I mean APIs', that I'm looking forward to exploring - I find the shell UI so intuitive that I have to use Google on my Windows 7 machine to figure things out.

                            Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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                            So, have you installed classic shell yet? It's been crucial for me to get my machine back to something usable for a professional - but man do I miss my Windows 7 start menu with small icons and all the useful utilities pinned to it!

                            My Blog: www.dwmkerr.com My Charity: Children's Homes Nepal

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                              Got my new computer today w/Windows 8, while the OS has tons of new features, I mean APIs', that I'm looking forward to exploring - I find the shell UI so intuitive that I have to use Google on my Windows 7 machine to figure things out.

                              Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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                              CPallini
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                              Espen Harlinn wrote:

                              I find the shell UI so intuitive that I have to use Google on my Windows 7 machine to figure things out

                              Welcome to the jungle. :-D Well it is usable, however, I strongly miss the start menu (have I to search for an application? Microsoft are you kidding? That's foolish).

                              Veni, vidi, vici.

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                                Got my new computer today w/Windows 8, while the OS has tons of new features, I mean APIs', that I'm looking forward to exploring - I find the shell UI so intuitive that I have to use Google on my Windows 7 machine to figure things out.

                                Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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                                I'm afraid the Windows desktop or equivalent has been getting worse in terms of functional design for a long time. The best desktop I ever had was Roger Rene Komer's New Menus For Windows on Windows 3.11 from 1995. A 9 screen desktop with pinnable customizable menus. The potential to have multiple full screen applications open. Full control panel integration into the menu, no clutter, on toppable, roll up menus that you can pin so they follow you from one desktop to another. I still have it on a VM, I wish I could post a picture. That system with modernised graphics, 32bit colour, smooth scrolling animation, transparency and all the other cosmetic but non functional improvements that make newer desktops 'look' better would blow away Modern UI and the Windows7 desktop for mouse based usage, let alone Gnome or KDE.

                                "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                                • E Espen Harlinn

                                  Got my new computer today w/Windows 8, while the OS has tons of new features, I mean APIs', that I'm looking forward to exploring - I find the shell UI so intuitive that I have to use Google on my Windows 7 machine to figure things out.

                                  Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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                                  Anyone noticed that you find the UI intuitive not unintuitive?


                                  I doubt it. If it isn't intuitive then we need to fix it. - Chris Maunder

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                                    Got my new computer today w/Windows 8, while the OS has tons of new features, I mean APIs', that I'm looking forward to exploring - I find the shell UI so intuitive that I have to use Google on my Windows 7 machine to figure things out.

                                    Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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                                    Anyone noticed that you find the UI intuitive not unintuitive? ;P


                                    I doubt it. If it isn't intuitive then we need to fix it. - Chris Maunder

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                                      I like the improvements to explorer. The start screen has the same keyboard usage as the old start menu, so it's visually scary, but works good enough for me. Still, currently I'm using Pokki[^] as start menu replacement, besides the appstore adds it's actually a good demonstration how a modern UI could be. (I can't find fault wiht ModernUI, but the current implementaiton - especially the MS App Store - is abysmal.)

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                                      Espen Harlinn
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                                      peterchen wrote:

                                      currently I'm using Pokki[^]

                                      That looks promising

                                      Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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                                        So, have you installed classic shell yet? It's been crucial for me to get my machine back to something usable for a professional - but man do I miss my Windows 7 start menu with small icons and all the useful utilities pinned to it!

                                        My Blog: www.dwmkerr.com My Charity: Children's Homes Nepal

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                                        Espen Harlinn
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                                        Dave Kerr wrote:

                                        So, have you installed classic shell yet?

                                        No - I'm looking into which utilities I need to be comfortable using Windows 8 with a large screen, a mouse and a keyboard. As Peter mentioned above, Pokki is one utility that looks promising.

                                        Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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                                          Espen Harlinn wrote:

                                          I find the shell UI so intuitive that I have to use Google on my Windows 7 machine to figure things out

                                          Welcome to the jungle. :-D Well it is usable, however, I strongly miss the start menu (have I to search for an application? Microsoft are you kidding? That's foolish).

                                          Veni, vidi, vici.

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                                          Espen Harlinn
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                                          The new UI may make novices, browsing the net and perhaps playing a gome or two, happy - but then I don't think I fit into that category. My primary tools are Visual Studio, Word and Project - with the occasional use of Adobe Creative Suite.

                                          Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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