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    Espen Harlinn
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    Apparently this is supposed to illustrate the benefits of mobile, keyboard less devices: 37 Percent of PC Users Migrate Activities to Mobile Devices, According to The NPD Group – NPD.com[^] I read this as illustrating that a lot of people are spending a significant part of their days on Facebook, and if they are browsing from a tablet, or phone, I kind of doubt that this has much to do with work … Perhaps it’s just me, but I still find it hard to imagine that people do their work on tablets and smartphones – so is there anybody here that uses tablets or smartphones to actually do anything?

    Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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      Apparently this is supposed to illustrate the benefits of mobile, keyboard less devices: 37 Percent of PC Users Migrate Activities to Mobile Devices, According to The NPD Group – NPD.com[^] I read this as illustrating that a lot of people are spending a significant part of their days on Facebook, and if they are browsing from a tablet, or phone, I kind of doubt that this has much to do with work … Perhaps it’s just me, but I still find it hard to imagine that people do their work on tablets and smartphones – so is there anybody here that uses tablets or smartphones to actually do anything?

      Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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      Bassam Abdul Baki
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      Nope! Smart devices are for doing not-so-smart things.

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        Apparently this is supposed to illustrate the benefits of mobile, keyboard less devices: 37 Percent of PC Users Migrate Activities to Mobile Devices, According to The NPD Group – NPD.com[^] I read this as illustrating that a lot of people are spending a significant part of their days on Facebook, and if they are browsing from a tablet, or phone, I kind of doubt that this has much to do with work … Perhaps it’s just me, but I still find it hard to imagine that people do their work on tablets and smartphones – so is there anybody here that uses tablets or smartphones to actually do anything?

        Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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        Rage
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        Yep, at the marketing on 11thfloor, they use it to make coke rails on.

        ~RaGE();

        I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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          Yep, at the marketing on 11thfloor, they use it to make coke rails on.

          ~RaGE();

          I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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          Espen Harlinn
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          Rage wrote:

          Yep, at the marketing on 11thfloor, they use it to make coke rails on.

          Not many would consider that real work, and don't you work in a 9 storey building? ;)

          Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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            Rage wrote:

            Yep, at the marketing on 11thfloor, they use it to make coke rails on.

            Not many would consider that real work, and don't you work in a 9 storey building? ;)

            Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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            The last idea was a marketing campaign based on videos with people dancing on a cover of "Gangnam Style", so some specific stuff must have been involved in the process.

            Espen Harlinn wrote:

            9 storey building

            Just went up and landed on the roof. Damn, where are these guys, then ?

            ~RaGE();

            I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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              The last idea was a marketing campaign based on videos with people dancing on a cover of "Gangnam Style", so some specific stuff must have been involved in the process.

              Espen Harlinn wrote:

              9 storey building

              Just went up and landed on the roof. Damn, where are these guys, then ?

              ~RaGE();

              I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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              Espen Harlinn
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              Rage wrote:

              Damn, where are these guys, then ?

              Oh, they went where the rails took them ...

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                Yep, at the marketing on 11thfloor, they use it to make coke rails on.

                ~RaGE();

                I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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                I've heard people using Ruby on Rails are remarkably productive.

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                  Apparently this is supposed to illustrate the benefits of mobile, keyboard less devices: 37 Percent of PC Users Migrate Activities to Mobile Devices, According to The NPD Group – NPD.com[^] I read this as illustrating that a lot of people are spending a significant part of their days on Facebook, and if they are browsing from a tablet, or phone, I kind of doubt that this has much to do with work … Perhaps it’s just me, but I still find it hard to imagine that people do their work on tablets and smartphones – so is there anybody here that uses tablets or smartphones to actually do anything?

                  Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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                  I don't. I try to do as litle on my phone as possible.

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                    I've heard people using Ruby on Rails are remarkably productive.

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                    Espen Harlinn
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                    _beauw_ wrote:

                    I've heard people using Ruby on Rails are remarkably productive.

                    Yeah, right - and if you paint this[^] nicely, some will mistake it for a real house ...

                    Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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                      Apparently this is supposed to illustrate the benefits of mobile, keyboard less devices: 37 Percent of PC Users Migrate Activities to Mobile Devices, According to The NPD Group – NPD.com[^] I read this as illustrating that a lot of people are spending a significant part of their days on Facebook, and if they are browsing from a tablet, or phone, I kind of doubt that this has much to do with work … Perhaps it’s just me, but I still find it hard to imagine that people do their work on tablets and smartphones – so is there anybody here that uses tablets or smartphones to actually do anything?

                      Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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                      A lot of people do not need a full-on PC or laptop. We are a minority that need a full functioning PC with multiple monitors. The large majority only do data entry/validation for their work and a table/smartphone is good enough.

                      Nihil obstat

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                        Apparently this is supposed to illustrate the benefits of mobile, keyboard less devices: 37 Percent of PC Users Migrate Activities to Mobile Devices, According to The NPD Group – NPD.com[^] I read this as illustrating that a lot of people are spending a significant part of their days on Facebook, and if they are browsing from a tablet, or phone, I kind of doubt that this has much to do with work … Perhaps it’s just me, but I still find it hard to imagine that people do their work on tablets and smartphones – so is there anybody here that uses tablets or smartphones to actually do anything?

                        Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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                        Phil J Pearson
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                        Yes, I do real things with mine. Most of my real work is done on a desktop or laptop PC but I do use my tablet from time to time for real stuff, For example:

                        • Remote access to customer's machines when I don't happen to be near enough to a PC. I recently fixed a configuration problem on a machine in China using my tablet from the breakfast table of my hotel in Sweden.
                        • Note taking in meetings (I avoid meetings like the plague but if I have to be in one at least I can do real stuff on my tablet in between note taking without anyone realising).
                        • Producing and modifying on-the-fly finger sketches to discuss ideas and concepts with myself or other people.

                        That's all apart from the obvious stuff like email, useful web browsing (i.e. not Farcebook etc.), navigation, access to documents, creating draft documents, Skype and so on.

                        Phil


                        The opinions expressed in this post are not necessarily those of the author, especially if you find them impolite, inaccurate or inflammatory.

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                          A lot of people do not need a full-on PC or laptop. We are a minority that need a full functioning PC with multiple monitors. The large majority only do data entry/validation for their work and a table/smartphone is good enough.

                          Nihil obstat

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                          Espen Harlinn
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                          Maximilien wrote:

                          The large majority

                          Which majority is that? Most people are not carpenters, electricans, cooks, warehoude workers, etc. In our part of the world, most people shuffle papers, write reports, etc. the stuff that's called office work ...

                          Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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                            A lot of people do not need a full-on PC or laptop. We are a minority that need a full functioning PC with multiple monitors. The large majority only do data entry/validation for their work and a table/smartphone is good enough.

                            Nihil obstat

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                            Rajesh R Subramanian
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                            Where is this 'large majority' hiding away? And what is that majority of work which doesn't require a computer, but can be done on a tablet or mobile phone?

                            "Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.

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                              A lot of people do not need a full-on PC or laptop. We are a minority that need a full functioning PC with multiple monitors. The large majority only do data entry/validation for their work and a table/smartphone is good enough.

                              Nihil obstat

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                              Shelby Robertson
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                              Maximilien wrote:

                              data entry

                              Maximilien wrote:

                              a table/smartphone is good enough.

                              X| :thumbsdown: It's a little early to be drunk.

                              CPallini wrote:

                              You cannot argue with agile people so just take the extreme approach and shoot him. :Smile:

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                                Yes, I do real things with mine. Most of my real work is done on a desktop or laptop PC but I do use my tablet from time to time for real stuff, For example:

                                • Remote access to customer's machines when I don't happen to be near enough to a PC. I recently fixed a configuration problem on a machine in China using my tablet from the breakfast table of my hotel in Sweden.
                                • Note taking in meetings (I avoid meetings like the plague but if I have to be in one at least I can do real stuff on my tablet in between note taking without anyone realising).
                                • Producing and modifying on-the-fly finger sketches to discuss ideas and concepts with myself or other people.

                                That's all apart from the obvious stuff like email, useful web browsing (i.e. not Farcebook etc.), navigation, access to documents, creating draft documents, Skype and so on.

                                Phil


                                The opinions expressed in this post are not necessarily those of the author, especially if you find them impolite, inaccurate or inflammatory.

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                                Espen Harlinn
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                                Good examples ...

                                Phil J Pearson wrote:

                                Producing and modifying on-the-fly finger sketches to discuss ideas and concepts with myself or other people.

                                Something that's probably quie useful - I used to use tablet PC with a 12"1 screen for similar purposes - it also had Oracle RDBMS and SQL Server installed.

                                Phil J Pearson wrote:

                                I do use my tablet from time to time for real stuff,

                                Which shows that it's possible to do something on a tablet, but it is somewhat cumbersome, which is why you prefer working on a PC ...

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                                  I don't. I try to do as litle on my phone as possible.

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                                  Espen Harlinn
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                                  PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                                  I try to do as litle on my phone as possible.

                                  I happen to use it mostly as a phone, and sometimes I use the browser when I'm not at work ...

                                  Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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                                    Apparently this is supposed to illustrate the benefits of mobile, keyboard less devices: 37 Percent of PC Users Migrate Activities to Mobile Devices, According to The NPD Group – NPD.com[^] I read this as illustrating that a lot of people are spending a significant part of their days on Facebook, and if they are browsing from a tablet, or phone, I kind of doubt that this has much to do with work … Perhaps it’s just me, but I still find it hard to imagine that people do their work on tablets and smartphones – so is there anybody here that uses tablets or smartphones to actually do anything?

                                    Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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                                    wizardzz
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                                    I have come to the conclusion that many, if not most, non IT office people's jobs is just sending e-mails and making phone calls.

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                                      I have come to the conclusion that many, if not most, non IT office people's jobs is just sending e-mails and making phone calls.

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                                      Espen Harlinn
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                                      Seems you're right, I didn't get many responses showing how real work can be done on tablets/smartphones

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                                        Seems you're right, I didn't get many responses showing how real work can be done on tablets/smartphones

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                                        wizardzz
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                                        Unfortunately, that is as far most people's work goes. Think marketing, sales, hr, etc.

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                                          Good examples ...

                                          Phil J Pearson wrote:

                                          Producing and modifying on-the-fly finger sketches to discuss ideas and concepts with myself or other people.

                                          Something that's probably quie useful - I used to use tablet PC with a 12"1 screen for similar purposes - it also had Oracle RDBMS and SQL Server installed.

                                          Phil J Pearson wrote:

                                          I do use my tablet from time to time for real stuff,

                                          Which shows that it's possible to do something on a tablet, but it is somewhat cumbersome, which is why you prefer working on a PC ...

                                          Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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                                          Espen Harlinn wrote:

                                          Which shows that it's possible to do something on a tablet, but it is somewhat cumbersome, which is why you prefer working on a PC ...

                                          That's not entirely true or fair. While I would prefer to be doing remote access (for example) from a PC I wouldn't want to hold my PC in front of a customer (while we stand on a factory floor) and try to draw on it with my finger. I don't try to do software development at all on my tablet. The devices have very different strengths and some area of overlap.

                                          Phil


                                          The opinions expressed in this post are not necessarily those of the author, especially if you find them impolite, inaccurate or inflammatory.

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