Windows 8 Part II
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Settign the explorer ribbon to autohide gives me exactly as much menu as I need, but that's because I rarely venture there anyway.
John M. Drescher wrote:
However in desktop mode I certainly miss Aero
It's mentioned often, but it's the one thing I actually miss least. Getting away from those backlighted 3D rendered mushy color blobs that are supposed to be icons only bigger alone would suffice. Getting rid of UI elements that don't show their state clearly for fear of breaking the visual self-service certainly is a nice bonus (pushbutton style checkboxes, I'd be looking at you now). Having a desktop no longer screaming at me "Look! I'm a title bar! And I'm a button! You like my shade? Do you, punk?" has a certain appeal, too. Generally, I'm happy that we are back at a form-follows-function-instead-of-jobs style, and there's more visual room for the content to stand out from the frame. (Yes, I like Office 2013. Hit me.) Apaprently, my definition of ugly is completely different from yours.
peterchen wrote:
Yes, I like Office 2013
Well, I hope you like the machine it's installed on, because you're not allowed to transfer the license to a different machine.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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peterchen wrote:
Yes, I like Office 2013
Well, I hope you like the machine it's installed on, because you're not allowed to transfer the license to a different machine.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
I also like Office 2013, but I got the Office 365 license, so I can install it on 5 machines and transfer licenses any time I want. I've only got it on 2 machines right now.
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viaducting wrote:
until at least Windows 9.
This has been my plan all along. I've always skipped every other Windows version. Skipped 95, used 98, skipped ME, used XP, skipped Vista, used 7. Now I'll skip 8 and use 9. :)
Windows ME was garbage, but Windows 2000 ended up being pretty solid.
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Well, so far I am liking Windows 8, especially its built in multi-monitor taskbar, ability to mount and browse ISO files, and the fact that is absolutely blazing fast! I am NEVER going back to Windows 7.
Bob Dole
The internet is a great way to get on the net.
:doh: 2.0.82.7292 SP6a
Yes overall: Speed is better, a lot of decent, handy improvements. It is almost worth the cost of upgrading just because the wacko file explorer tree behavior introduced in Vista, whereby expanding a folder results in the folder whose contents you wanted to see jumping down to the bottom of the window (thus hiding exactly what you wanted to see by scrolling it off the screen), has finally been eliminated. Also, multi-monitor support is better (don't seem to need Ultramon anymore), bootup on my new laptop is almost indistinguishable in speed from waking up from sleep, and some other nice features. Task manager is better, some useful keyboard shortcuts for power users. Weaknesses: If you don't get about a half-dozen of those shortcut keys in your head, you'll spend way too much time wandering around because settings and actions are in some cases scattered weirdly. The Metro-style apps aren't all that useful unless you have a tablet, and often they have so few UI cues that you seriously have no idea how to navigate them, and they suffer from the disease introduced by Apple and Android of never wanting to quit, only switch away. You have to alt-F4 them all the time. (Well, if you use them anyway, which I don't all that much, since the whole paradigm is, when used on a normal computer screen, inferior to a windowed one.) The start screen itself is a red herring, everyone is afraid of "oh no, no start menu" but effectively the start screen is just a full-screen start menu, with the one main drawback being that it isn't hierarchical (well, except to a single level of grouping). The ISO mounting is handy but still needs a little tweaking- there's no way to control what drive letter is used. So if, say, you're installing something that comes on a whole set of discs, from ISO images, upon getting the "insert the next disc" prompt you'll unmount, then mount the next one, and only have about a 75% chance of getting the same drive letter and the installer being able to continue properly. Biggest engineering failure I've encountered yet on it: product keys are stored in the BIOS and then can't be seen or touched, which created one really stupid money waster for me. As I typically do, I bought my latest system intending to completely swap out the HD it came with and install Windows from scratch. To do this, I needed installation media, which practically nobody sells anymore with computers, so I separately ordered a Windows 8 Pro OEM disc. Having thus already paid for Windows 8 Pro once, I felt it was silly to pay extra t
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peterchen wrote:
Yes, I like Office 2013
Well, I hope you like the machine it's installed on, because you're not allowed to transfer the license to a different machine.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
Not true for the version I have installed :cool: (But i like the machine, I really do. i7, 8G RAM, Velociraptor)
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I can now increase my "people who actually like Windows 8" counter to 2. I'm still not convinced.
Count me as number 3. Installed it on my Acer Ultra/Netbook during the Consumer Preview and haven't looked back. Keep Windows 7 on my desktop for compatibility reasons, but I'm already moving the majority of my stuff to a Windows 8 partition that will eventually take over the system. :) Flynn
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I can now increase my "people who actually like Windows 8" counter to 2. I'm still not convinced.
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It's a little faster to boot and does have a built-in iso mounter so I do not have to use a free external utility for that. I also like the ribbon on explorer. However in desktop mode I certainly miss Aero. Having to deal with an ugly desktop all the time does not make this an upgrade for me..
John
John M. Drescher wrote:
I also like the ribbon on explorer
My only main annoyance is that the keyboard shortcuts for changing the viewing style are broken :sigh: Previously you could go Alt-V, D to switch to details view. With 8 you have to use arrow keys or click...
"For fifty bucks I'd put my face in their soup and blow." - George Costanza
CP article: SmartPager - a Flickr-style pager control with go-to-page popup layer.
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Yes overall: Speed is better, a lot of decent, handy improvements. It is almost worth the cost of upgrading just because the wacko file explorer tree behavior introduced in Vista, whereby expanding a folder results in the folder whose contents you wanted to see jumping down to the bottom of the window (thus hiding exactly what you wanted to see by scrolling it off the screen), has finally been eliminated. Also, multi-monitor support is better (don't seem to need Ultramon anymore), bootup on my new laptop is almost indistinguishable in speed from waking up from sleep, and some other nice features. Task manager is better, some useful keyboard shortcuts for power users. Weaknesses: If you don't get about a half-dozen of those shortcut keys in your head, you'll spend way too much time wandering around because settings and actions are in some cases scattered weirdly. The Metro-style apps aren't all that useful unless you have a tablet, and often they have so few UI cues that you seriously have no idea how to navigate them, and they suffer from the disease introduced by Apple and Android of never wanting to quit, only switch away. You have to alt-F4 them all the time. (Well, if you use them anyway, which I don't all that much, since the whole paradigm is, when used on a normal computer screen, inferior to a windowed one.) The start screen itself is a red herring, everyone is afraid of "oh no, no start menu" but effectively the start screen is just a full-screen start menu, with the one main drawback being that it isn't hierarchical (well, except to a single level of grouping). The ISO mounting is handy but still needs a little tweaking- there's no way to control what drive letter is used. So if, say, you're installing something that comes on a whole set of discs, from ISO images, upon getting the "insert the next disc" prompt you'll unmount, then mount the next one, and only have about a 75% chance of getting the same drive letter and the installer being able to continue properly. Biggest engineering failure I've encountered yet on it: product keys are stored in the BIOS and then can't be seen or touched, which created one really stupid money waster for me. As I typically do, I bought my latest system intending to completely swap out the HD it came with and install Windows from scratch. To do this, I needed installation media, which practically nobody sells anymore with computers, so I separately ordered a Windows 8 Pro OEM disc. Having thus already paid for Windows 8 Pro once, I felt it was silly to pay extra t
Trajan McGill wrote:
wacko file explorer tree behavior
This was frustrating! Insane that they can add so much new stuff and actually break stuff which was fine before.
Trajan McGill wrote:
product keys are stored in the BIOS
interesting!... good to know
"For fifty bucks I'd put my face in their soup and blow." - George Costanza
CP article: SmartPager - a Flickr-style pager control with go-to-page popup layer.
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Well, so far I am liking Windows 8, especially its built in multi-monitor taskbar, ability to mount and browse ISO files, and the fact that is absolutely blazing fast! I am NEVER going back to Windows 7.
Bob Dole
The internet is a great way to get on the net.
:doh: 2.0.82.7292 SP6a
Brisingr Aerowing wrote:
I am NEVER going back to Windows 7.
Except if you want to watch a DVD movie? ;P This has gotta be their stupidest decision IMO.
"For fifty bucks I'd put my face in their soup and blow." - George Costanza
CP article: SmartPager - a Flickr-style pager control with go-to-page popup layer.
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Well, so far I am liking Windows 8, especially its built in multi-monitor taskbar, ability to mount and browse ISO files, and the fact that is absolutely blazing fast! I am NEVER going back to Windows 7.
Bob Dole
The internet is a great way to get on the net.
:doh: 2.0.82.7292 SP6a
Brisingr Aerowing wrote:
absolutely blazing fast
The program search is *very* fast, but with explorer I haven't noticed much difference..
"For fifty bucks I'd put my face in their soup and blow." - George Costanza
CP article: SmartPager - a Flickr-style pager control with go-to-page popup layer.
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Brisingr Aerowing wrote:
I am NEVER going back to Windows 7.
Except if you want to watch a DVD movie? ;P This has gotta be their stupidest decision IMO.
"For fifty bucks I'd put my face in their soup and blow." - George Costanza
CP article: SmartPager - a Flickr-style pager control with go-to-page popup layer.
VLC Media Player.
Bob Dole
The internet is a great way to get on the net.
:doh: 2.0.82.7292 SP6a
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Brisingr Aerowing wrote:
absolutely blazing fast
The program search is *very* fast, but with explorer I haven't noticed much difference..
"For fifty bucks I'd put my face in their soup and blow." - George Costanza
CP article: SmartPager - a Flickr-style pager control with go-to-page popup layer.
I have found Explorer is much faster on my machine. Although, I have a Intel Core i5 Quad-Core CPU and 6GB RAM, so that may explain at least part of it.
Bob Dole
The internet is a great way to get on the net.
:doh: 2.0.82.7292 SP6a
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VLC Media Player.
Bob Dole
The internet is a great way to get on the net.
:doh: 2.0.82.7292 SP6a
Yep.. easy solution. But if VLC can offer it for free why can't MS?
"For fifty bucks I'd put my face in their soup and blow." - George Costanza
CP article: SmartPager - a Flickr-style pager control with go-to-page popup layer.
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Yep.. easy solution. But if VLC can offer it for free why can't MS?
"For fifty bucks I'd put my face in their soup and blow." - George Costanza
CP article: SmartPager - a Flickr-style pager control with go-to-page popup layer.
I actually don't watch movies all that often.
Bob Dole
The internet is a great way to get on the net.
:doh: 2.0.82.7292 SP6a