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I don't think the article author got it correctly. Even if space marines has been existing for decades, the mental picture that comes when thinking of a space marine is the one of the Game Workshops figurines ( as the figurine itself or as drawings of it), not the ones from Hogarth. It is as if someone once talked about an iPhone in a book in 1930 : Equally, everybody today think Apple and not Book from 1930 when you talk about an iPhone. To cut a long story short, I don't think Games Workshop is that wrong on that topic.
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I disagree entirely - I grew up reading Robert Heinlein and similar - and that's what I think of when I hear the phrase Space Marine. I have never been through the door of a Games Workshop, so what the spotty geeks in there think of doesn't matter to me. If they have a series of figurines called Roman Legionaires, I would not automatically think of them when somebody talks of centurions and cohorts - Julius and Augustus Caesar would spring to mind. Just because Games Workshop has appropriated the name, shouldn't mean they have any right to it
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Imagine, just for a moment, that this had happened on 21 Dec 2012. Poor people.
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I disagree entirely - I grew up reading Robert Heinlein and similar - and that's what I think of when I hear the phrase Space Marine. I have never been through the door of a Games Workshop, so what the spotty geeks in there think of doesn't matter to me. If they have a series of figurines called Roman Legionaires, I would not automatically think of them when somebody talks of centurions and cohorts - Julius and Augustus Caesar would spring to mind. Just because Games Workshop has appropriated the name, shouldn't mean they have any right to it
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OK, I grew up playing Games Workshop games, I might be slightly biased. What surprises me is that I have never heard of Heinlein, while being a big sci-fi fan (and especially of the other two "Big Three", Clarke and Asimov).
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OK, I grew up playing Games Workshop games, I might be slightly biased. What surprises me is that I have never heard of Heinlein, while being a big sci-fi fan (and especially of the other two "Big Three", Clarke and Asimov).
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I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb
Really? One of the most prolific scifi writers of all time! Started in the 30's and continued until his death in the 80's. Never heard of Starship Troopers? Stranger in a Strange Land? He was very right wing in his politics, but very liberal in his sexual mores
It's well known that if all the cat videos and porn disappeared from the internet there would be only one site left and it would be called whereareallthecatvideosandporn.com
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Really? One of the most prolific scifi writers of all time! Started in the 30's and continued until his death in the 80's. Never heard of Starship Troopers? Stranger in a Strange Land? He was very right wing in his politics, but very liberal in his sexual mores
It's well known that if all the cat videos and porn disappeared from the internet there would be only one site left and it would be called whereareallthecatvideosandporn.com
Really. Just discovered in the Wikipedia article that Starship Troopers was actually a book. I only thought it was the movie. :-O
Chris Quinn wrote:
He was very right wing in his politics, but very liberal in his sexual mores
The opposite of me :rolleyes:
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I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb
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Really. Just discovered in the Wikipedia article that Starship Troopers was actually a book. I only thought it was the movie. :-O
Chris Quinn wrote:
He was very right wing in his politics, but very liberal in his sexual mores
The opposite of me :rolleyes:
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I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb
The youth of today! :wtf: :omg: You may also find this[^] informative!
It's well known that if all the cat videos and porn disappeared from the internet there would be only one site left and it would be called whereareallthecatvideosandporn.com
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Really. Just discovered in the Wikipedia article that Starship Troopers was actually a book. I only thought it was the movie. :-O
Chris Quinn wrote:
He was very right wing in his politics, but very liberal in his sexual mores
The opposite of me :rolleyes:
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb
Wow, the children of today are actually capable of learning about something more than 5 minutes old! Heinlein was a staple of sci-fi literature. I am familiar with GW's Warhammer 40,000 game, I always thought it was based on a kid's cartoon gone haywire - having looked at the cover art of the game boxes and the little toys they made to play the game with. Being a more serious war-gamer and RPG'er I paid no heed to this silly looking game and certainly wouldn't think of it in connection with the term "space marine" (at all). I used to get and read White Dwarf regularly in my long ago youth but GW got too commercial and over the top with most of their products. I always felt they had too heavy an American influence despite being a British company. They lost it, for me. Breaking news: I understand that Amazon have restored the book to it's lists now.
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Didn't you know that you can't use the words "space m@rines"[^] without being in breach of copyright?
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OK, I would like to search about that with "Goo-something" or "J-who!", but since no one can use those words, then I guess it's not worth searching for, as there probably aren't any results. By the way, can I use the real Goo-something word? -It's kind of handy. This world is every time weirder! One day we'll wake up in the morning and will find that some letters from the alphabet are really "expensive". Something would have to change by then (just hoping).
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I don't think the article author got it correctly. Even if space marines has been existing for decades, the mental picture that comes when thinking of a space marine is the one of the Game Workshops figurines ( as the figurine itself or as drawings of it), not the ones from Hogarth. It is as if someone once talked about an iPhone in a book in 1930 : Equally, everybody today think Apple and not Book from 1930 when you talk about an iPhone. To cut a long story short, I don't think Games Workshop is that wrong on that topic.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb
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if someone once talked about an iPhone in a book in 1930 : Equally, everybody today think Apple
Who thinks of Apple? I think immediately of the Linksys iPhone [^].
- Life in the fast lane is only fun if you live in a country with no speed limits. - Of all the things I have lost, it is my mind that I miss the most. - I vaguely remember having a good memory...
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Wow, the children of today are actually capable of learning about something more than 5 minutes old! Heinlein was a staple of sci-fi literature. I am familiar with GW's Warhammer 40,000 game, I always thought it was based on a kid's cartoon gone haywire - having looked at the cover art of the game boxes and the little toys they made to play the game with. Being a more serious war-gamer and RPG'er I paid no heed to this silly looking game and certainly wouldn't think of it in connection with the term "space marine" (at all). I used to get and read White Dwarf regularly in my long ago youth but GW got too commercial and over the top with most of their products. I always felt they had too heavy an American influence despite being a British company. They lost it, for me. Breaking news: I understand that Amazon have restored the book to it's lists now.
- Life in the fast lane is only fun if you live in a country with no speed limits. - Of all the things I have lost, it is my mind that I miss the most. - I vaguely remember having a good memory...
W40k was very well serious at the beginning, they lost it, as you mentioned, by going too commercial (which is why I stopped playing, actually). You are being harsh with it when saying it was a silly game: the rules were complicated enough to make it interesting but simple enough to make war-gaming interesting for the mass. I enjoyed it, at least. I maintain that lots of people, actually most of them, will make the connection between space marine and GW. Just google space marine and see on what page you must go to find any reference to the book (but for the wikipedia article, OK). Anyway, I don't think GW should claim rights on the term "space marine" in general, I think they only should when their space marines are somehow involved. And that is precisely my point: in almost all cases, it is.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb
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Quote:
if someone once talked about an iPhone in a book in 1930 : Equally, everybody today think Apple
Who thinks of Apple? I think immediately of the Linksys iPhone [^].
- Life in the fast lane is only fun if you live in a country with no speed limits. - Of all the things I have lost, it is my mind that I miss the most. - I vaguely remember having a good memory...
It's well known that if all the cat videos and porn disappeared from the internet there would be only one site left and it would be called whereareallthecatvideosandporn.com