Horse Meat In The United Kingdom
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I guess they've a problem with horse meat being sold as beef in the United Kingdom. Apparently it's made it's way into the schools, hospitals and other organizations. This leaves me with a few questions: 1: Does a horse cost less to raise than a cow? I don't see the savings there. 2: If it takes DNA testing to tell the difference does it really matter? 3: If the horse meat is going into people food then what the elephant are the dogs getting? -MehGerbil
The horse meat is generally coming from working stock that has reached the end of its life, and tests have supposedly identified Bute in some of the meat. This is a drug that is not safe for human consumption. Finally, it's being sold as beef, so that is fraud.
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I guess they've a problem with horse meat being sold as beef in the United Kingdom. Apparently it's made it's way into the schools, hospitals and other organizations. This leaves me with a few questions: 1: Does a horse cost less to raise than a cow? I don't see the savings there. 2: If it takes DNA testing to tell the difference does it really matter? 3: If the horse meat is going into people food then what the elephant are the dogs getting? -MehGerbil
MehGerbil wrote:
what the elephant are the dogs getting
Elephant? Sometimes I think they just take regular human food and add some nasty looking ooze so they can call it dog food. But if that would be true we would all be eating elephants... Not me though, I'm a vegetarian. Turns out they actually sell carrots as lettuce!
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The horse meat is generally coming from working stock that has reached the end of its life, and tests have supposedly identified Bute in some of the meat. This is a drug that is not safe for human consumption. Finally, it's being sold as beef, so that is fraud.
I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easierYou won't convince DD that way. He's a tory, and if a scam reduces costs and increases profits, it's good toryism.
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I guess they've a problem with horse meat being sold as beef in the United Kingdom. Apparently it's made it's way into the schools, hospitals and other organizations. This leaves me with a few questions: 1: Does a horse cost less to raise than a cow? I don't see the savings there. 2: If it takes DNA testing to tell the difference does it really matter? 3: If the horse meat is going into people food then what the elephant are the dogs getting? -MehGerbil
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I guess they've a problem with horse meat being sold as beef in the United Kingdom. Apparently it's made it's way into the schools, hospitals and other organizations. This leaves me with a few questions: 1: Does a horse cost less to raise than a cow? I don't see the savings there. 2: If it takes DNA testing to tell the difference does it really matter? 3: If the horse meat is going into people food then what the elephant are the dogs getting? -MehGerbil
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I guess they've a problem with horse meat being sold as beef in the United Kingdom. Apparently it's made it's way into the schools, hospitals and other organizations. This leaves me with a few questions: 1: Does a horse cost less to raise than a cow? I don't see the savings there. 2: If it takes DNA testing to tell the difference does it really matter? 3: If the horse meat is going into people food then what the elephant are the dogs getting? -MehGerbil
Isn't a horse just a fast cow? Other than the fraud and drugs, etc., what's the big deal? Meat is meat. We're all too fussy and too far removed from the messy end of the food chain. If we had to catch and kill our own food...
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Honestly as long as I can't tell the difference and it doesn't make me sick, I don't really care what it is. Meat that tastes like beef is beef as far as I'm concerned.
What if it tastes like chicken?
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What if it tastes like chicken?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I guess they've a problem with horse meat being sold as beef in the United Kingdom. Apparently it's made it's way into the schools, hospitals and other organizations. This leaves me with a few questions: 1: Does a horse cost less to raise than a cow? I don't see the savings there. 2: If it takes DNA testing to tell the difference does it really matter? 3: If the horse meat is going into people food then what the elephant are the dogs getting? -MehGerbil
MehGerbil wrote:
1: Does a horse cost less to raise than a cow? I don't see the savings there.
As previously mentioned, they aren't raised for this purpose, but it's how almost every horse meets its end. Race horses, pet horses, work horses, are all worth $1 a pound last time I checked. When they get too old to serve their purpose, owners cash them out. I think it's a little fucked up that tame horses that lived among and trusted people, get slaughtered. Would you sell for slaughter your pet dog when he turned 10?
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That's like asking "What if it's food?", because apparently everything tastes like chicken...
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MehGerbil wrote:
what the elephant are the dogs getting
Elephant? Sometimes I think they just take regular human food and add some nasty looking ooze so they can call it dog food. But if that would be true we would all be eating elephants... Not me though, I'm a vegetarian. Turns out they actually sell carrots as lettuce!
It's an OO world.
public class Naerling : Lazy<Person>{
public void DoWork(){ throw new NotImplementedException(); }
}Naerling wrote:
I'm a vegetarian
Then you deny your evolutionary imperitive. You are denying what you are and that is hypocrisy. You have canine teeth and enzymes designed to breakdown animal tissue. You have forward pointing eyes and intelligence. You are a flesh eater, a hunter, a predator. Look at all the predatory fauna, they are higher intelligence and similar morphology. Then look at the vegegabilst animals. They are slower, fatter, and less intelligent. Meat has a price, but it's rewards outweigh the cost. I am a happy carnivore and will hunt, kill, prepare, dress, cook and eat that which I kill.
--------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^]
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Isn't a horse just a fast cow? Other than the fraud and drugs, etc., what's the big deal? Meat is meat. We're all too fussy and too far removed from the messy end of the food chain. If we had to catch and kill our own food...
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
Indeed. Animal protien is animal protein regardless of its source. Those tossers that insist that their children become vegetarians are guilty of both child cruelty and facism. The cruelty being that the children are denied the benefits of the animal nutrients and the facism is in not allowing them to make their own informed choice.
--------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^]
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The horse meat is generally coming from working stock that has reached the end of its life, and tests have supposedly identified Bute in some of the meat. This is a drug that is not safe for human consumption. Finally, it's being sold as beef, so that is fraud.
I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easierYep, one of the main reasons I'm a veggie is that I have no respect for the meat industry.
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That's like asking "What if it's food?", because apparently everything tastes like chicken...
But that's bad, isn't it? Usually, people are complaining, when they say something tastes like c***.
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Yep, one of the main reasons I'm a veggie is that I have no respect for the meat industry.
Can't say as I have an awful lot of respect for cabbages and turnips.
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Naerling wrote:
I'm a vegetarian
Then you deny your evolutionary imperitive. You are denying what you are and that is hypocrisy. You have canine teeth and enzymes designed to breakdown animal tissue. You have forward pointing eyes and intelligence. You are a flesh eater, a hunter, a predator. Look at all the predatory fauna, they are higher intelligence and similar morphology. Then look at the vegegabilst animals. They are slower, fatter, and less intelligent. Meat has a price, but it's rewards outweigh the cost. I am a happy carnivore and will hunt, kill, prepare, dress, cook and eat that which I kill.
--------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^]
B*ll*cks on almost all counts. Tackling them more or less in order. 1. You have canine teeth. We also regularly get back problems due to the fact that evolution is NOT intelligent design. 2. No we are omnivores, adapted to eat either pretty well any food source. It is largely up to us which we choose, we can equal nutrition from any source if we choose well. 3. When was the last time you, or the majority of our species hunted? 4. Er.. right, so a vast number of anthropoids have less intelligence than lions. Hmm. 5. Same answer as (4). Comparing us to animals massively removed in terms of genetic material (or at least as far as most mammals are) and ignoring those closest to us is a massive example of selection bias. Yet more unintelligent design. 6. Right, I think you'll find that a balanced vegetarian diet has all the nutritional benefits and avoids most of the hazards. On top of that, its environmentally more friendly than a meat-based diet as it produces massively less CO^2, its more ethical (purely on the basis of the way industrial meat production actually treats animals), and, unless you're stupid and ignore basic dietary advice, better for you. Sorry, but sometimes bull has to be called. PS. I normally avoid ranting on this subject I think you beat me to that.
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Naerling wrote:
I'm a vegetarian
Then you deny your evolutionary imperitive. You are denying what you are and that is hypocrisy. You have canine teeth and enzymes designed to breakdown animal tissue. You have forward pointing eyes and intelligence. You are a flesh eater, a hunter, a predator. Look at all the predatory fauna, they are higher intelligence and similar morphology. Then look at the vegegabilst animals. They are slower, fatter, and less intelligent. Meat has a price, but it's rewards outweigh the cost. I am a happy carnivore and will hunt, kill, prepare, dress, cook and eat that which I kill.
--------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^]
Actually, that part about being intelligent enables me to question my ways, which is exactly what I did, after which I decided never to eat meat again. Now if I were, for lack of a better word, a 'lower' animal I would have just eaten my meat because that just so happens to be what I do. I am also quite positive we are not designed to hunt. We have no strength, speed or endurance like many animals have. The only reason we can kill those animals is because we just so happen to walk on our hind legs in a straight position, which enables us to hold weapons with which we can kill those animals. And seriously, the only hunting people do nowadays is hunting McDonalds... That's not hunting! Calling it a hunt, or yourself a predator for that matter, is just nonsense. I think by far most people in the world have never hunted anything in their life! Now about veggie's being slower, fatter and less intelligent I don't know. What I do know is that it's mainly the meat eaters among humans that are the fat bastards that stuff themselves at fast food restaurants, unable to walk for more than a mile because their louzy condition and poor health won't allow it... Maybe I shouldn't mention I write software for slaughterhouses... Nope, this wouldn't be the best time to share that part about my life...
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Honestly as long as I can't tell the difference and it doesn't make me sick, I don't really care what it is. Meat that tastes like beef is beef as far as I'm concerned.
lewax00 wrote:
Meat that tastes like beef is beef as far as I'm concerned.
I wonder what human flesh tastes like? If it tastes like beef then I shall have an old friend for dinner tonight and a glass of Chianti.
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Can't say as I have an awful lot of respect for cabbages and turnips.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
By the sound of it not much imagination in terms of cooking either, if that's your idea of a veggie diet.
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Naerling wrote:
I'm a vegetarian
Then you deny your evolutionary imperitive. You are denying what you are and that is hypocrisy. You have canine teeth and enzymes designed to breakdown animal tissue. You have forward pointing eyes and intelligence. You are a flesh eater, a hunter, a predator. Look at all the predatory fauna, they are higher intelligence and similar morphology. Then look at the vegegabilst animals. They are slower, fatter, and less intelligent. Meat has a price, but it's rewards outweigh the cost. I am a happy carnivore and will hunt, kill, prepare, dress, cook and eat that which I kill.
--------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^]
Man is also built to overpower and take breeding partners with physical force. Am I denying my evolutionary imperative by not raping women? I also have the ability to procreate multiple times a day, (we were all teenagers once). Am I denying my evolutionary imperative by not having children?
Dalek Dave wrote:
Look at all the predatory fauna, they are higher intelligence and similar morphology.
Dalek Dave wrote:
imperitive.
...but can't use spell check apparently.
Dalek Dave wrote:
I am a happy carnivore and will hunt, kill, prepare, dress, cook and eat that which I kill.
With your evolved, predatory bare hands? No tools? My point is not that I have a problem with anyone eating meat, but an evolutionary argument can be used for almost any point of view, on any topic, and will always be fallible.
