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  • K Keith Barrow

    I'm from Newcastle, I already spell "same" as "seym". All languages 24 characters? Arabic is pretty strictly phonetic and it has 28. For example ع is normally transliterated as a' and pronounced like trying to say a very short "a" while strangling oneself so that is missed alone.There are at least four different versions of "a" that I can think of S, D and T have two forms and there are several types of "h" only two of which are captured. God alone knows what would have to languages even less related to the Indo-European group. It is, however, a good way of converting English so it looks like it was written by a Russian using a Dutch dictionary.

    Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
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    A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]

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    Nagy Vilmos
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    Hungarian has 40, count 'em, letters each with a distinctive phonetic sound. I've just tried a few words and the phonetics are wrong.

    Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol

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    • N Nagy Vilmos

      Aunty[^]:

      Backers of a universal alphabet say it will make pronunciation easy and foster international understanding. But can phonetic spelling systems really smooth the path to world peace?

      This iz sɘpowzd tu bii ɘ betɘr wey tu spel. waat duu yuu think? SaypU[^]

      Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol

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      Dalek Dave
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      Surely just teaching them English would be enough. It is the de facto lingua franca au courant.

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        Surely just teaching them English would be enough. It is the de facto lingua franca au courant.

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        Nagy Vilmos
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        With currents?

        Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol

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          With currents?

          Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol

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          Dalek Dave
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          I am raisin the bar somewhat[^]

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            I am raisin the bar somewhat[^]

            --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^]

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            Nagy Vilmos
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            Throw your nuts in and you could have a winner[^]

            Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol

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            • N Nagy Vilmos

              Aunty[^]:

              Backers of a universal alphabet say it will make pronunciation easy and foster international understanding. But can phonetic spelling systems really smooth the path to world peace?

              This iz sɘpowzd tu bii ɘ betɘr wey tu spel. waat duu yuu think? SaypU[^]

              Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol

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              David Goebet
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              that iz stuupɘd

              is this a signature ?

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              • N Nagy Vilmos

                Aunty[^]:

                Backers of a universal alphabet say it will make pronunciation easy and foster international understanding. But can phonetic spelling systems really smooth the path to world peace?

                This iz sɘpowzd tu bii ɘ betɘr wey tu spel. waat duu yuu think? SaypU[^]

                Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol

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                GuyThiebaut
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                In French a slight mispronunciation in 'Merci beaucoup' can turn into 'Merci beau cul' Sounds very close but has a very different meaning...

                “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                ― Christopher Hitchens

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                • N Nagy Vilmos

                  Aunty[^]:

                  Backers of a universal alphabet say it will make pronunciation easy and foster international understanding. But can phonetic spelling systems really smooth the path to world peace?

                  This iz sɘpowzd tu bii ɘ betɘr wey tu spel. waat duu yuu think? SaypU[^]

                  Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol

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                  Mark_Wallace
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                  The Americans spent fifty years trying to "simplify" the English language (which is quite understandable, given that the number of native-English speakers in the country was a distinct minority), and all they achieved was to make their version of the language look silly and childish -- but every bit as complex. The Chinese were more successful at introducing Simplified Chinese, but China has always had absolute rulers, who could make absolute decisions. All we'll get with attempts to "simplify" English is decades of arguments between people who have conflicting personal preferences, ending (as it did in North America) with compromises and extended arguments that result in it being ever more complicated and difficult to teach. Look at it this way: If there were an absolute ruler over programming syntax, it would take him two minutes to decide whether or not braces should be on a new line, and then pronounce an edict that everyone has to follow. ... But we don't have such an absolute ruler, so what do we have instead...?

                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                  • M Mark_Wallace

                    The Americans spent fifty years trying to "simplify" the English language (which is quite understandable, given that the number of native-English speakers in the country was a distinct minority), and all they achieved was to make their version of the language look silly and childish -- but every bit as complex. The Chinese were more successful at introducing Simplified Chinese, but China has always had absolute rulers, who could make absolute decisions. All we'll get with attempts to "simplify" English is decades of arguments between people who have conflicting personal preferences, ending (as it did in North America) with compromises and extended arguments that result in it being ever more complicated and difficult to teach. Look at it this way: If there were an absolute ruler over programming syntax, it would take him two minutes to decide whether or not braces should be on a new line, and then pronounce an edict that everyone has to follow. ... But we don't have such an absolute ruler, so what do we have instead...?

                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                    Dalek Dave
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                    Chaos, Confusion and Charm.

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                    • N Nagy Vilmos

                      Hungarian has 40, count 'em, letters each with a distinctive phonetic sound. I've just tried a few words and the phonetics are wrong.

                      Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol

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                      Keith Barrow
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                      The whole project is pretty much doomed, they've considered the Western-European languages and errm.... that's it. What they are trying to do is replace the International Phonetic Alphabet[^]

                      Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
                      -Or-
                      A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]

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                      • N Nagy Vilmos

                        Aunty[^]:

                        Backers of a universal alphabet say it will make pronunciation easy and foster international understanding. But can phonetic spelling systems really smooth the path to world peace?

                        This iz sɘpowzd tu bii ɘ betɘr wey tu spel. waat duu yuu think? SaypU[^]

                        Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol

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                        Dexterus
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                        Who's phonetic?

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                        • D Dalek Dave

                          Chaos, Confusion and Charm.

                          --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^]

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                          Mark_Wallace
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                          Dalek Dave wrote:

                          Chaos, Confusion, and Charm.

                          ... And a shortage of commas, apparently. :mad: (Might as well start the ball rolling)

                          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                            Aunty[^]:

                            Backers of a universal alphabet say it will make pronunciation easy and foster international understanding. But can phonetic spelling systems really smooth the path to world peace?

                            This iz sɘpowzd tu bii ɘ betɘr wey tu spel. waat duu yuu think? SaypU[^]

                            Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol

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                            Lost User
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                            How is this supposed to be universal? I can't even spell most Dutch words with this shit. There's a whole bunch of vowels missing.

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                            • M Mark_Wallace

                              Dalek Dave wrote:

                              Chaos, Confusion, and Charm.

                              ... And a shortage of commas, apparently. :mad: (Might as well start the ball rolling)

                              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                              Dalek Dave
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                              Why would one put a comma in there? It is a co-ordinating conjunction, and I detest the Oxford Comma. I am not an American, and nor am I a journalist, so the comma is both alien and redundant.

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                              • L Lost User

                                How is this supposed to be universal? I can't even spell most Dutch words with this shit. There's a whole bunch of vowels missing.

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                                Dalek Dave
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                                harold aptroot wrote:

                                There's a whole bunch of vowels missing.

                                You should visit Wales. All the vowels are missing there.

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                                • N Nagy Vilmos

                                  Aunty[^]:

                                  Backers of a universal alphabet say it will make pronunciation easy and foster international understanding. But can phonetic spelling systems really smooth the path to world peace?

                                  This iz sɘpowzd tu bii ɘ betɘr wey tu spel. waat duu yuu think? SaypU[^]

                                  Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol

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                                  dan sh
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                                  I don't think any Indian language can make use of that. Like txtspk wasn't enough, bring this new crap.

                                  "Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[^]

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                                  • N Nagy Vilmos

                                    Aunty[^]:

                                    Backers of a universal alphabet say it will make pronunciation easy and foster international understanding. But can phonetic spelling systems really smooth the path to world peace?

                                    This iz sɘpowzd tu bii ɘ betɘr wey tu spel. waat duu yuu think? SaypU[^]

                                    Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol

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                                    Quirkafleeg
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                                    Nah - that website said there was no spelling for the word "pub", so it'll never catch over here in the UK.

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                                    • D Dalek Dave

                                      Why would one put a comma in there? It is a co-ordinating conjunction, and I detest the Oxford Comma. I am not an American, and nor am I a journalist, so the comma is both alien and redundant.

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                                      Nagy Vilmos
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                                      Dalek Dave wrote:

                                      the comma is both alien and redundant.

                                      The coma how ever is a regular Saturday visitor.

                                      Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol

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                                      • M Mark_Wallace

                                        The Americans spent fifty years trying to "simplify" the English language (which is quite understandable, given that the number of native-English speakers in the country was a distinct minority), and all they achieved was to make their version of the language look silly and childish -- but every bit as complex. The Chinese were more successful at introducing Simplified Chinese, but China has always had absolute rulers, who could make absolute decisions. All we'll get with attempts to "simplify" English is decades of arguments between people who have conflicting personal preferences, ending (as it did in North America) with compromises and extended arguments that result in it being ever more complicated and difficult to teach. Look at it this way: If there were an absolute ruler over programming syntax, it would take him two minutes to decide whether or not braces should be on a new line, and then pronounce an edict that everyone has to follow. ... But we don't have such an absolute ruler, so what do we have instead...?

                                        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                        hairy_hats
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                                        Mark_Wallace wrote:

                                        it would take him two minutes to decide whether or not braces should be on a new line,

                                        Hopefully he would already know that they should.

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                                        • H hairy_hats

                                          Mark_Wallace wrote:

                                          it would take him two minutes to decide whether or not braces should be on a new line,

                                          Hopefully he would already know that they should.

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                                          BobJanova
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                                          No they shouldn't!

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