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    I do not have any backup scheme in place on my home computer. I repent. Now what ? Every backup scheme I've tried before has always been marked by -- Complexity -- Annoyance -- Hideously Inadequate restore procedures -- Space Invaders (I was around before CD-RWs existed) -- Time Bandits (So many rules you had to sit there and run it yourself) I used some freeware backup apps, and the authors of these should receive the highest acclaim. Indeed, they should be able to find paid work within a month if not an hour, should they need it. Still, what will really work, and what will really catch on, is something where... -- Plug in a USB cable -- Pop up the app -- Click once -- Go to work -- Come home, spare disk goes in the closet So how much will such a thing cost ? Who's making this kind of stuff these days ?

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    OriginalGriff
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    I use NTI Shadow: http://www.nticorp.com/en/us/store/shadow_5_windows_estore.asp[^] - I have it set to a number of jobs onto my NAS, but it also works to USB drives (though I haven't tried it). You do have to set up some "rules" in the sense of type of backup, frequency, and so forth, but it's pretty easy to do. They do a trial which might be worth looking at - but the full version is currently pretty cheap.

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      I do not have any backup scheme in place on my home computer. I repent. Now what ? Every backup scheme I've tried before has always been marked by -- Complexity -- Annoyance -- Hideously Inadequate restore procedures -- Space Invaders (I was around before CD-RWs existed) -- Time Bandits (So many rules you had to sit there and run it yourself) I used some freeware backup apps, and the authors of these should receive the highest acclaim. Indeed, they should be able to find paid work within a month if not an hour, should they need it. Still, what will really work, and what will really catch on, is something where... -- Plug in a USB cable -- Pop up the app -- Click once -- Go to work -- Come home, spare disk goes in the closet So how much will such a thing cost ? Who's making this kind of stuff these days ?

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      Have a look at the BounceBack products from CMS[^] [edit] if clickty doesn't work try www.cmsproducts.com [/edit] I think the concept is probably exactly what you're looking for: just plug in a USB drive and it does the backup. In the spirit of full disclosure: I used one of their products years ago and found an obscure show stopper bug (in my specific circumstances) and their support was an email shrug of the shoulders. I expect they are well over that by now.

      Phil


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      • C C P User 3

        I do not have any backup scheme in place on my home computer. I repent. Now what ? Every backup scheme I've tried before has always been marked by -- Complexity -- Annoyance -- Hideously Inadequate restore procedures -- Space Invaders (I was around before CD-RWs existed) -- Time Bandits (So many rules you had to sit there and run it yourself) I used some freeware backup apps, and the authors of these should receive the highest acclaim. Indeed, they should be able to find paid work within a month if not an hour, should they need it. Still, what will really work, and what will really catch on, is something where... -- Plug in a USB cable -- Pop up the app -- Click once -- Go to work -- Come home, spare disk goes in the closet So how much will such a thing cost ? Who's making this kind of stuff these days ?

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        AspDotNetDev
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        I use Time Machine on my Mac, but I doubt that's of much use to you. When I searched for "Time Machine Windows", I came across this... so as DaveAuld said, Windows File History looks like a good place to start. Though, I can stand to lose most of my files. Anything really important I backup to DVD (though such files are rare).

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        • C C P User 3

          I do not have any backup scheme in place on my home computer. I repent. Now what ? Every backup scheme I've tried before has always been marked by -- Complexity -- Annoyance -- Hideously Inadequate restore procedures -- Space Invaders (I was around before CD-RWs existed) -- Time Bandits (So many rules you had to sit there and run it yourself) I used some freeware backup apps, and the authors of these should receive the highest acclaim. Indeed, they should be able to find paid work within a month if not an hour, should they need it. Still, what will really work, and what will really catch on, is something where... -- Plug in a USB cable -- Pop up the app -- Click once -- Go to work -- Come home, spare disk goes in the closet So how much will such a thing cost ? Who's making this kind of stuff these days ?

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          Chris Losinger
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          C-P-User-3 wrote:

          -- Plug in a USB cable
          -- Pop up the app
          -- Click once
          -- Go to work
          -- Come home, spare disk goes in the closet

          that's exactly what i do. i have a Retrospect job that backs up two PCs and a NAS to an external USB HD. once a month, i bring the HD home from work, plug it in, launch Retrospect, tell it to do the monthly job, go away for a while, take the HD back to work the next day. it also does automatic, unattended, bi-weekly backups to the NAS.

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            I do not have any backup scheme in place on my home computer. I repent. Now what ? Every backup scheme I've tried before has always been marked by -- Complexity -- Annoyance -- Hideously Inadequate restore procedures -- Space Invaders (I was around before CD-RWs existed) -- Time Bandits (So many rules you had to sit there and run it yourself) I used some freeware backup apps, and the authors of these should receive the highest acclaim. Indeed, they should be able to find paid work within a month if not an hour, should they need it. Still, what will really work, and what will really catch on, is something where... -- Plug in a USB cable -- Pop up the app -- Click once -- Go to work -- Come home, spare disk goes in the closet So how much will such a thing cost ? Who's making this kind of stuff these days ?

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            robocopy

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              I have only just turned on Windows 8 File Version History which will maintain a backup of all my stuff to an external drive. Didn't know it existed until I came across Scott Hanselman's post here: http://www.hanselman.com/blog/Windows8Step0TurnOnContinuousBackupsViaFileHistory.aspx[^] I have left it to the default hourly interval. I suggest that is a good starting point!

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              peterchen
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              It's one of my few Win8 letdowns that Microsoft killed "Previous Versions" via Volume Shadow Copy for that.

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              • C C P User 3

                I do not have any backup scheme in place on my home computer. I repent. Now what ? Every backup scheme I've tried before has always been marked by -- Complexity -- Annoyance -- Hideously Inadequate restore procedures -- Space Invaders (I was around before CD-RWs existed) -- Time Bandits (So many rules you had to sit there and run it yourself) I used some freeware backup apps, and the authors of these should receive the highest acclaim. Indeed, they should be able to find paid work within a month if not an hour, should they need it. Still, what will really work, and what will really catch on, is something where... -- Plug in a USB cable -- Pop up the app -- Click once -- Go to work -- Come home, spare disk goes in the closet So how much will such a thing cost ? Who's making this kind of stuff these days ?

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                Gary Wheeler
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                Buy a USB hard drive: $100. Write .BAT file to run robocopy: 6 minutes. Add scheduled task to run .BAT file once a day: 30 seconds. You've spent $100 or less and six and a half minutes for peace of mind. Cheap.

                Software Zen: delete this;

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                • C Chris Losinger

                  C-P-User-3 wrote:

                  -- Plug in a USB cable
                  -- Pop up the app
                  -- Click once
                  -- Go to work
                  -- Come home, spare disk goes in the closet

                  that's exactly what i do. i have a Retrospect job that backs up two PCs and a NAS to an external USB HD. once a month, i bring the HD home from work, plug it in, launch Retrospect, tell it to do the monthly job, go away for a while, take the HD back to work the next day. it also does automatic, unattended, bi-weekly backups to the NAS.

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                  Bassam Abdul Baki
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                  Chris Losinger wrote:

                  i bring the HD home from work, plug it in, launch Retrospect, tell it to do the monthly job, go away for a while, take the HD back to work the next day.

                  Copying work-sensitive information has never been easier. ;P

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                  • C C P User 3

                    I do not have any backup scheme in place on my home computer. I repent. Now what ? Every backup scheme I've tried before has always been marked by -- Complexity -- Annoyance -- Hideously Inadequate restore procedures -- Space Invaders (I was around before CD-RWs existed) -- Time Bandits (So many rules you had to sit there and run it yourself) I used some freeware backup apps, and the authors of these should receive the highest acclaim. Indeed, they should be able to find paid work within a month if not an hour, should they need it. Still, what will really work, and what will really catch on, is something where... -- Plug in a USB cable -- Pop up the app -- Click once -- Go to work -- Come home, spare disk goes in the closet So how much will such a thing cost ? Who's making this kind of stuff these days ?

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                    Bassam Abdul Baki
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                    I put pictures on Facebook and Google's Picasa, and a few important documents I upload to Google Drive. Everything else I only think are important, but are not really. When I've lost things in the past, I realized how indifferent I was to most of it. Work-related stuff stays at work. Home-related stuff is rarely more than pictures and a few documents. Let Facebook and Picasa save and tag them for me. When I need them again, I can either download them or pay $5 for a CD with all my information.

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                    • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                      Chris Losinger wrote:

                      i bring the HD home from work, plug it in, launch Retrospect, tell it to do the monthly job, go away for a while, take the HD back to work the next day.

                      Copying work-sensitive information has never been easier. ;P

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                      disclaimer: lest anyone from my employer get spooked at your suggestion... no, i only store the HD at work because it's easier than taking it to our safe deposit box.

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                        disclaimer: lest anyone from my employer get spooked at your suggestion... no, i only store the HD at work because it's easier than taking it to our safe deposit box.

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                        When they come to take you away, I presume they will search your office as well as your home... :laugh:

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                          robocopy

                          ORDER BY what user wants

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                          Jorgen Andersson
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                          :thumbsup:

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                            disclaimer: lest anyone from my employer get spooked at your suggestion... no, i only store the HD at work because it's easier than taking it to our safe deposit box.

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                            Bassam Abdul Baki
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                            Disclaimer: To CL's employers, I was speaking in jest. Disclaimer: To my employers, I would never do that either.

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                              Disclaimer: To CL's employers, I was speaking in jest. Disclaimer: To my employers, I would never do that either.

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                              :)

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                                C-P-User-3 wrote:

                                -- Plug in a USB cable
                                -- Pop up the app
                                -- Click once
                                -- Go to work
                                -- Come home, spare disk goes in the closet

                                that's exactly what i do. i have a Retrospect job that backs up two PCs and a NAS to an external USB HD. once a month, i bring the HD home from work, plug it in, launch Retrospect, tell it to do the monthly job, go away for a while, take the HD back to work the next day. it also does automatic, unattended, bi-weekly backups to the NAS.

                                image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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                                Maximilien
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                                that's what I do, backup HD, also, is at work.

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                                  I do not have any backup scheme in place on my home computer. I repent. Now what ? Every backup scheme I've tried before has always been marked by -- Complexity -- Annoyance -- Hideously Inadequate restore procedures -- Space Invaders (I was around before CD-RWs existed) -- Time Bandits (So many rules you had to sit there and run it yourself) I used some freeware backup apps, and the authors of these should receive the highest acclaim. Indeed, they should be able to find paid work within a month if not an hour, should they need it. Still, what will really work, and what will really catch on, is something where... -- Plug in a USB cable -- Pop up the app -- Click once -- Go to work -- Come home, spare disk goes in the closet So how much will such a thing cost ? Who's making this kind of stuff these days ?

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                                    I do not have any backup scheme in place on my home computer. I repent. Now what ? Every backup scheme I've tried before has always been marked by -- Complexity -- Annoyance -- Hideously Inadequate restore procedures -- Space Invaders (I was around before CD-RWs existed) -- Time Bandits (So many rules you had to sit there and run it yourself) I used some freeware backup apps, and the authors of these should receive the highest acclaim. Indeed, they should be able to find paid work within a month if not an hour, should they need it. Still, what will really work, and what will really catch on, is something where... -- Plug in a USB cable -- Pop up the app -- Click once -- Go to work -- Come home, spare disk goes in the closet So how much will such a thing cost ? Who's making this kind of stuff these days ?

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                                    thrakazog
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                                    My backup strategy: 1. Put all project files, pictures, and music in a directory that is backed up by Dropbox or Skydrive. 2. Accept that if my computer melts it will take me a few hours to reload the software on a new machine and pull my useful files back from the cloud. 3. Have a drink.

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                                      robocopy

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                                      Forogar
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                                      Robocopy and a batch job run by windows scheduler. Works great! I have a few USB and eSATA connected 2TB drives with complete copies of everything on my main drives. Simple, easy and a doddle to restore broken or missing files.

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                                        I do not have any backup scheme in place on my home computer. I repent. Now what ? Every backup scheme I've tried before has always been marked by -- Complexity -- Annoyance -- Hideously Inadequate restore procedures -- Space Invaders (I was around before CD-RWs existed) -- Time Bandits (So many rules you had to sit there and run it yourself) I used some freeware backup apps, and the authors of these should receive the highest acclaim. Indeed, they should be able to find paid work within a month if not an hour, should they need it. Still, what will really work, and what will really catch on, is something where... -- Plug in a USB cable -- Pop up the app -- Click once -- Go to work -- Come home, spare disk goes in the closet So how much will such a thing cost ? Who's making this kind of stuff these days ?

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                                        dusty_dex
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                                        I don't about anyone else here on Code Project, but I'm getting tired of sub-standard optical media not working across different CD/DVD burners. I can't always keep files hanging around on external USB HD, so anything that's unlikely to change gets shoved onto a DVD/CD. But.. 1. they've proved to be not so reliable as they're claimed to be. 2. a change of dvd hardware you discover the discs throw up CRC errors etc. by the time you discover the problems, it's so long ago you can't remember when or where you bought them. To date, I've lost far more files from bad DVD/CD than any other form of backup.

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                                          My backup strategy: 1. Put all project files, pictures, and music in a directory that is backed up by Dropbox or Skydrive. 2. Accept that if my computer melts it will take me a few hours to reload the software on a new machine and pull my useful files back from the cloud. 3. Have a drink.

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                                          SoMad
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                                          That's not a bad approach. I have not tried Dropbox, but my Pictures folder alone currently takes up 50 GB, so it is not an option for me to back all that up to Skydrive. I know I can purchase extra storage, but I think I would rather go with something else. Soren Madsen

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