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  • C Chris Maunder

    In SQL - fairly often to jump to the error handler at the end of our sprocs. I'll admit there's no good reason we do this, since it's easy enough for us to avoid this with if statements, but it's a pattern used in our original code and so for consistency we stuck with it:

    Create Procedure MyProc as

    Begin Tran
    
    -- Do stuff...
    
    if @@error <> 0 goto errorHandler
    
    Commit Tran
    Return 0
    

    errorHandler:
    Rollback Tran
    Return 1

    cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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    Dexterus
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    For this same reason it was used in our C code (kernel, various drivers). Not had to use it yet but I can see some uses if you want the CPU/compiler to execute/optimize properly.

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    • D DanielSheets

      Thats swift. I'll be the first to admit that I dont have the experience or knowledge of 90% of the people here. Interesting.

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      dusty_dex
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      That looks bad to me. Aren't you supposed to use

      break ;

      to jump out of loops? Exception handling will usually bog down the handled block of code.

      Q. Hey man! have you sorted out the finite soup machine? A. Why yes, it's celery or tomato.

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      • D DanielSheets

        This isn't a programming question. Anyway... I find it useful in very few situations. It can make for cleaner code if used correctly. Of course, it can also be over used.

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        Chris Losinger
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        depends on the language. sometimes, there is no way to avoid it.

        image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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        • D DanielSheets

          This isn't a programming question. Anyway... I find it useful in very few situations. It can make for cleaner code if used correctly. Of course, it can also be over used.

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          glennPattonWork3
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          I have always thought goto was the equlivant of the assembly language jmp (blocking?), if it is I used one this morning. Goto is also acceptable in RTOS situations (which Windows isn't) if you want the valve to close now and not later. Glenn

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          • B BobJanova

            Isyourspacebarfaulty? 'Go to' is two words.

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            S Douglas
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            His second stop was the bar, then other places and to write this post. I am assuming he is still enjoying the effects of the local bar. :)


            Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.

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            • W wizardzz

              Use it in .bat files all the time.

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              S Douglas
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              wizardzz wrote:

              in .bat files all the time.

              I second that.


              Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.

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              • C Chris Maunder

                In SQL - fairly often to jump to the error handler at the end of our sprocs. I'll admit there's no good reason we do this, since it's easy enough for us to avoid this with if statements, but it's a pattern used in our original code and so for consistency we stuck with it:

                Create Procedure MyProc as

                Begin Tran
                
                -- Do stuff...
                
                if @@error <> 0 goto errorHandler
                
                Commit Tran
                Return 0
                

                errorHandler:
                Rollback Tran
                Return 1

                cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                J4amieC
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                If that's T-SQL in anything resembling modern SQL Server, there are much, much better constructs for error handling now.

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                • D DanielSheets

                  This isn't a programming question. Anyway... I find it useful in very few situations. It can make for cleaner code if used correctly. Of course, it can also be over used.

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                  Nemanja Trifunovic
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                  Real programmers (ones who code in languages like assembly, C and FORTRAN) use it all the time. Rest of us - rarely if ever.

                  utf8-cpp

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                  • D DanielSheets

                    This isn't a programming question. Anyway... I find it useful in very few situations. It can make for cleaner code if used correctly. Of course, it can also be over used.

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                    Lost User
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                    Well as an assembly programmer I really don't have much choice. And as for higher level languages, sure, though rarely. There are people who religiously avoid it, but that's just silly. We must remember the reason it is seen as bad, and not open a witchhunt. Introducing a boolean variable just to quit out of a non-enclosing loop makes readability/understandability worse, not better, and refactoring an inner loop into its own function just so you can return out of it creates a bunch of tightly-coupled functions that do nothing useful on their own. Besides, that return would essentially be a goto.

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                    • D dusty_dex

                      That looks bad to me. Aren't you supposed to use

                      break ;

                      to jump out of loops? Exception handling will usually bog down the handled block of code.

                      Q. Hey man! have you sorted out the finite soup machine? A. Why yes, it's celery or tomato.

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                      Lost User
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                      Unfortunately that Java feature is not in C#.

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                      • M Maximilien

                        I've not used it in a long time. There are a few of them in our legacy code, but no new code have them; they are mostly used for quick exit of a function to do cleanup.

                        Nihil obstat

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                        John M Drescher
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                        Honestly, I have written at least 1 million lines of code since I have used a goto. Although I do remember using a few gotos in the 1990s. Also long gone from my coding is writing x86 assembly code.

                        John

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                        • D DanielSheets

                          This isn't a programming question. Anyway... I find it useful in very few situations. It can make for cleaner code if used correctly. Of course, it can also be over used.

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                          Ron Anders
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                          Me: goto Me;

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                          • D DanielSheets

                            This isn't a programming question. Anyway... I find it useful in very few situations. It can make for cleaner code if used correctly. Of course, it can also be over used.

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                            kmoorevs
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                            In one of our legacy apps (VB) the goto is used to apply database updates based on the exe version. ErrorHandlers: seperate the update logic for each version and are arranged from top to bottom so that code execution always 'fall through' to the bottom. It may me wrong but it works!

                            "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                            • D DanielSheets

                              This isn't a programming question. Anyway... I find it useful in very few situations. It can make for cleaner code if used correctly. Of course, it can also be over used.

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                              RugbyLeague
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                              I put it into my own language just because I wanted to see if I could write a program all in one function which started at the bottom and worked its way to the top. I am not sure why, one of those days. I then immediately removed it from the language spec although the code for it is still in the compiler source - just commented out.

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                              • D DanielSheets

                                This isn't a programming question. Anyway... I find it useful in very few situations. It can make for cleaner code if used correctly. Of course, it can also be over used.

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                                H Brydon
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                                I only use it nowadays in assembly (no choice) and scripting languages that don't have good structured programming constructs (ie. if/then/else etc.). I learned programming in the days of early Fortran IV (and actually regressed a little on an older machine with Fortran IID) that only had arithmetic if[^] and computed goto[^] for conditional logic flow. I really came to appreciate the evils of the 'goto' statement and never use them unless there is no other choice. If I use a goto, it will always transfer control downwards, never up. And yes, I use break and continue, and multiple returns in methods.

                                -- Harvey

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                                  Unfortunately that Java feature is not in C#.

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                                  dusty_dex
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                                  Wow! what an oversight. It sure makes life easier.

                                  Q. Hey man! have you sorted out the finite soup machine? A. Why yes, it's celery or tomato.

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                                  • D DanielSheets

                                    This isn't a programming question. Anyway... I find it useful in very few situations. It can make for cleaner code if used correctly. Of course, it can also be over used.

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                                    dan sh
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                                    .Net framework uses that. They just built some fancy keywords that do the same thing but have a different name. For instance, continue.

                                    "Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[^]

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                                    • D DanielSheets

                                      This isn't a programming question. Anyway... I find it useful in very few situations. It can make for cleaner code if used correctly. Of course, it can also be over used.

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                                      Kevin Marois
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                                      goto... Who uses it? Only those programmers who want to be slowly boiled in hot oil

                                      If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                                      • D dan sh

                                        .Net framework uses that. They just built some fancy keywords that do the same thing but have a different name. For instance, continue.

                                        "Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[^]

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                                        Kevin Marois
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                                        If you think the 'continue' keyword is anything at all like 'goto', you need to go back to programming 101.

                                        If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                                        • D DanielSheets

                                          Thats swift. I'll be the first to admit that I dont have the experience or knowledge of 90% of the people here. Interesting.

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                                          Lost User
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                                          DanielSheets wrote:

                                          I'll be the first to admit that I dont have the experience or knowledge of 90% of the people here.

                                          The fact that you care about readability proves that you can't be in the bottom 10% :) Readable code leads to maintainable projects. The better a project can be maintained, the more chances it will survive in the long run.

                                          Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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