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  • C Chris Maunder

    http://browseryoulovedtohate.com/[^] I'm never keen on marketing campaigns along the lines of "yeah, our old one was crap, but this one is good.", because they tend to do the same pitch for the next rev. And for those too cynical to follow the link: it's an IE10 promotion.

    cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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    Marco Bertschi
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    I like the idea of the IE: You get the PC, all basic thingies are installed yet. But what avoids Microsoft from just saying "Yeah, our user can select which browser he wants to have installed by default during the installation process."?

    cheers Marco Bertschi


    Software Developer & Founder SMGT Web-Portal CP Profile | My Articles | Twitter | Facebook | SMGT Web-Portal Freedom, son, is a dirty shirt - The Boss

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    • C Chris Maunder

      http://browseryoulovedtohate.com/[^] I'm never keen on marketing campaigns along the lines of "yeah, our old one was crap, but this one is good.", because they tend to do the same pitch for the next rev. And for those too cynical to follow the link: it's an IE10 promotion.

      cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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      Forogar
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      I thought this post would be about FireFox!

      - Life in the fast lane is only fun if you live in a country with no speed limits. - Of all the things I have lost, it is my mind that I miss the most. - I vaguely remember having a good memory...

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      • C Chris Maunder

        http://browseryoulovedtohate.com/[^] I'm never keen on marketing campaigns along the lines of "yeah, our old one was crap, but this one is good.", because they tend to do the same pitch for the next rev. And for those too cynical to follow the link: it's an IE10 promotion.

        cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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        Joe Woodbury
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        Trying it now. Unfortunately they still haven't let me customize the top bar by turning off the huge back button and moving my favorites button to be just to the right of the back/forward buttons. Edit: Oddly, though this may be a preexisting condition, the orange banner on top keeps getting overwritten with a white banner for everything to the right of the code project logo and name. This may be normal, but doesn't happen with Firefox.

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        • C Chris Maunder

          http://browseryoulovedtohate.com/[^] I'm never keen on marketing campaigns along the lines of "yeah, our old one was crap, but this one is good.", because they tend to do the same pitch for the next rev. And for those too cynical to follow the link: it's an IE10 promotion.

          cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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          wizardzz
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          What... The fuck... Is that webpage? The UI's must be designed by 20 somethings for use by teenagers. As a 30 year old, it is not functional. Get off my lawn! Things are expensive! Don't touch my newspaper stacks! My bruises don't go away!

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          • C Chris Maunder

            http://browseryoulovedtohate.com/[^] I'm never keen on marketing campaigns along the lines of "yeah, our old one was crap, but this one is good.", because they tend to do the same pitch for the next rev. And for those too cynical to follow the link: it's an IE10 promotion.

            cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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            Single Step Debugger
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            *checking if down voting is still disabled* IE was and still is the best browser out there. Everything else is just half-backed imitations of IE.

            There is only one Vera Farmiga and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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            • C Chris Maunder

              http://browseryoulovedtohate.com/[^] I'm never keen on marketing campaigns along the lines of "yeah, our old one was crap, but this one is good.", because they tend to do the same pitch for the next rev. And for those too cynical to follow the link: it's an IE10 promotion.

              cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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              dan sh
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              I never thought I would download IE using Chrome. Edit: Installed it. Had to restart computer. I am done.

              "Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[^]

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              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                :-D And worse, they did it for the last one as well. I didn't used to Love to Hate IE. I could easily learn to hate that web site though. It looks like a "personal small ads" page from the late eighties.

                If you get an email telling you that you can catch Swine Flu from tinned pork then just delete it. It's Spam.

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                Mycroft Holmes
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                OriginalGriff wrote:

                t looks like a "personal small ads" page from the late eighties

                I was not going to bother - IE adds are a WOTAM, but I'm always interested in worst page candidates, that one qualifies.

                Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                • C Chris Maunder

                  http://browseryoulovedtohate.com/[^] I'm never keen on marketing campaigns along the lines of "yeah, our old one was crap, but this one is good.", because they tend to do the same pitch for the next rev. And for those too cynical to follow the link: it's an IE10 promotion.

                  cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                  Espen Harlinn
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                  I'm pretty sure it's not only me, but those who use the stuff I make use IE as their primary browser. If they make a switch, I'll make the switch - not before, and certainly not later.

                  Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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                    *checking if down voting is still disabled* IE was and still is the best browser out there. Everything else is just half-backed imitations of IE.

                    There is only one Vera Farmiga and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                    JimmyRopes
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                    :thumbsdown:

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                    • E Espen Harlinn

                      I'm pretty sure it's not only me, but those who use the stuff I make use IE as their primary browser. If they make a switch, I'll make the switch - not before, and certainly not later.

                      Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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                      kmoorevs
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                      I used to make that assumption until a whole group of users began having problems with a print button. Instead of getting a little print preview, they got a new window. When they closed the window, like they were used to doing, they were unwittingly closing the application. The cause, they were all using Chrome without even knowing it. This happened to be about the time that Adobe started whoring with Google, installing Chrome and the Google Add-On Toolbar for IE if the dumb user did not uncheck the box...or maybe it was all just coincidence. Now my web apps are compliant on IE and Chrome. Screw the others. ;P

                      "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                      • K kmoorevs

                        I used to make that assumption until a whole group of users began having problems with a print button. Instead of getting a little print preview, they got a new window. When they closed the window, like they were used to doing, they were unwittingly closing the application. The cause, they were all using Chrome without even knowing it. This happened to be about the time that Adobe started whoring with Google, installing Chrome and the Google Add-On Toolbar for IE if the dumb user did not uncheck the box...or maybe it was all just coincidence. Now my web apps are compliant on IE and Chrome. Screw the others. ;P

                        "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                        Espen Harlinn
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                        kmoorevs wrote:

                        I used to make that assumption

                        In my case, it's not an assumption - it's written down in the platform requirements, which are specified by the customer. I think this makes sense because the customer buys software and other IT services from a wide range of suppliers – and by specifying a runtime environment that you have to comply with, they reduce the work related to maintaining and securing the runtime environment.

                        Espen Harlinn Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS Projects promoting programming in "natural language" are intrinsically doomed to fail. Edsger W.Dijkstra

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                        • M Marco Bertschi

                          I like the idea of the IE: You get the PC, all basic thingies are installed yet. But what avoids Microsoft from just saying "Yeah, our user can select which browser he wants to have installed by default during the installation process."?

                          cheers Marco Bertschi


                          Software Developer & Founder SMGT Web-Portal CP Profile | My Articles | Twitter | Facebook | SMGT Web-Portal Freedom, son, is a dirty shirt - The Boss

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                          Brady Kelly
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                          Why not go one step further, and ask which IDE and distributed transaction controller they want installed by default?

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                            Why not go one step further, and ask which IDE and distributed transaction controller they want installed by default?

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                            Marco Bertschi
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                            Why not go some more steps further? Let the customer order the OS from an online store, with all the preferences preconfigured and he can write down which software he wants to have installed at all with all the SW configurations possible? And he can get the SW for a special low "Ordered with windows"-price.

                            cheers Marco Bertschi


                            Software Developer & Founder SMGT Web-Portal CP Profile | My Articles | Twitter | Facebook | SMGT Web-Portal Freedom, son, is a dirty shirt - The Boss

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                              I never thought I would download IE using Chrome. Edit: Installed it. Had to restart computer. I am done.

                              "Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[^]

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                              Marco Bertschi
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                              d@nish wrote:

                              Had to restart computer

                              Something no one has expected to happen :-\

                              cheers Marco Bertschi


                              Software Developer & Founder SMGT Web-Portal CP Profile | My Articles | Twitter | Facebook | SMGT Web-Portal Freedom, son, is a dirty shirt - The Boss

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                              • C Chris Maunder

                                http://browseryoulovedtohate.com/[^] I'm never keen on marketing campaigns along the lines of "yeah, our old one was crap, but this one is good.", because they tend to do the same pitch for the next rev. And for those too cynical to follow the link: it's an IE10 promotion.

                                cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                tcfunk
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                                The fact of the matter is that no one cares how good IE 10 is, because IE 7, 8, & 9 are still being used. Microsoft needs to upgrade the problem browsers, not make a new one. 0% of my customer base uses IE 10.

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                                • C Chris Maunder

                                  http://browseryoulovedtohate.com/[^] I'm never keen on marketing campaigns along the lines of "yeah, our old one was crap, but this one is good.", because they tend to do the same pitch for the next rev. And for those too cynical to follow the link: it's an IE10 promotion.

                                  cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                  RafagaX
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                                  I don't love or hate IE, it's just a tool; is like loving or hating a wrench...

                                  CEO at: - Rafaga Systems - Para Facturas - Modern Components for the moment...

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                                  • C Chris Maunder

                                    http://browseryoulovedtohate.com/[^] I'm never keen on marketing campaigns along the lines of "yeah, our old one was crap, but this one is good.", because they tend to do the same pitch for the next rev. And for those too cynical to follow the link: it's an IE10 promotion.

                                    cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                    RASPeter
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                                    So far, I hate it. It might be a perfectly fine browser, but I've only noticed one significant change, and it's a REALLY bad one: it broke all my porn. Seriously, almost all flash-based porn sites are broken for me since I installed IE10. I get sound, but no video. There are a few that still work, but the vast majority (like over 90% of sites) don't, and whatever they changed seems to affect other browsers as well. (And yes, I already tried reinstalling Flash).

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                                      I don't love or hate IE, it's just a tool; is like loving or hating a wrench...

                                      CEO at: - Rafaga Systems - Para Facturas - Modern Components for the moment...

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                                      Chris Maunder
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                                      RafagaX wrote:

                                      is like loving or hating a wrench

                                      Exactly. I have a ton of tools from a previous life and some I like, a few I love, and there's some I just hate using. No different.

                                      cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                      • T tcfunk

                                        The fact of the matter is that no one cares how good IE 10 is, because IE 7, 8, & 9 are still being used. Microsoft needs to upgrade the problem browsers, not make a new one. 0% of my customer base uses IE 10.

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                                        Waldemar Sauer
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                                        tcfunk wrote:

                                        The fact of the matter is that no one cares how good IE 10 is, because IE 7, 8, & 9 are still being used. Microsoft needs to upgrade the problem browsers, not make a new one.

                                        IE 7 - ouch! I was on a project recently where we still had to support this browser. At least 50% of our problems stemmed from this alone, because the specs said that it had to look 100% the same in IE 7 as in modern browsers. I think we could have cut at least 25% of our dev effort if it was acceptable to look 90% the same as in modern browsers. As a side note: If you're ever in the same position, http://css3pie.com/[^] might help you considerably.

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                                        • C Chris Maunder

                                          http://browseryoulovedtohate.com/[^] I'm never keen on marketing campaigns along the lines of "yeah, our old one was crap, but this one is good.", because they tend to do the same pitch for the next rev. And for those too cynical to follow the link: it's an IE10 promotion.

                                          cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                          Jeoshua
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                                          I work in a Tech Support Call center for a "major corporation", let's say. In the past, I have despised IE. It's non-standard rendering engine, piss-poor javascript performance, crashy behavior, and worst of all the ActiveX (or as I used to call it, OLE-95) security debacle, made it impossible to recommend or even tolerate one a customer computer. Now, I'm not so sure. IE10 got rid of ActiveX, fully conforms to HTML5, and has fairly decent performance across the board in regards to speed and stability. I've actually recommended that customers calling in use it too. Too bad it is, for the time being, only available for an operating system that is completely retarded and impossible to recommend by itself.

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