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    AspDotNetDev
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    Just came across an interesting licensing requirement: http://www.ip2location.com/licensing. They sell data (associating IP addresses with physical locations). Which you then store in your own database. If you backup your database, you must purchase an extra license. If you mirror your server, you must purchase yet another license. If you do database sharding for your databases in the cloud, each instance requires its own license. :wtf: This is the worst licensing strategy I've seen in a while.

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      Just came across an interesting licensing requirement: http://www.ip2location.com/licensing. They sell data (associating IP addresses with physical locations). Which you then store in your own database. If you backup your database, you must purchase an extra license. If you mirror your server, you must purchase yet another license. If you do database sharding for your databases in the cloud, each instance requires its own license. :wtf: This is the worst licensing strategy I've seen in a while.

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      But you are using multiple copies of the data which could be potentially used to increase the performance of your system across data centres based on regions. doesn't seem that odd. Probably cheaper than selling a license for unlimited use, as you can pay for what you need.

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        But you are using multiple copies of the data which could be potentially used to increase the performance of your system across data centres based on regions. doesn't seem that odd. Probably cheaper than selling a license for unlimited use, as you can pay for what you need.

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        AspDotNetDev
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        And what about backups? Why should I be charged more if I backup the data? And if I create geographically redundant backups, why should I be charged even more? It's not actually being used; it's just being protected.

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          Just came across an interesting licensing requirement: http://www.ip2location.com/licensing. They sell data (associating IP addresses with physical locations). Which you then store in your own database. If you backup your database, you must purchase an extra license. If you mirror your server, you must purchase yet another license. If you do database sharding for your databases in the cloud, each instance requires its own license. :wtf: This is the worst licensing strategy I've seen in a while.

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          AspDotNetDev wrote:

          This is the worst licensing strategy I've seen in a while.

          Sounds pretty good for the ones on the receiving end of the deal !!! :cool:

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            Just came across an interesting licensing requirement: http://www.ip2location.com/licensing. They sell data (associating IP addresses with physical locations). Which you then store in your own database. If you backup your database, you must purchase an extra license. If you mirror your server, you must purchase yet another license. If you do database sharding for your databases in the cloud, each instance requires its own license. :wtf: This is the worst licensing strategy I've seen in a while.

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            AspDotNetDev wrote:

            This is the worst licensing strategy I've seen in a while.

            Have you seen the licensing straggedy for MS Office 2013? http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/office-2013-license-limited-to-just-one-computer/[^]

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              Just came across an interesting licensing requirement: http://www.ip2location.com/licensing. They sell data (associating IP addresses with physical locations). Which you then store in your own database. If you backup your database, you must purchase an extra license. If you mirror your server, you must purchase yet another license. If you do database sharding for your databases in the cloud, each instance requires its own license. :wtf: This is the worst licensing strategy I've seen in a while.

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              AspDotNetDev wrote:

              They sell data (associating IP addresses with physical locations). Which you then store in your own database. If you backup your database, you must purchase an extra license. If you mirror your server, you must purchase yet another license. If you do database sharding for your databases in the cloud, each instance requires its own license

              Excluding the back up part do you have an example of another commercial persistence store solution that doesn't require that in at least some production scenarios?

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                AspDotNetDev wrote:

                They sell data (associating IP addresses with physical locations). Which you then store in your own database. If you backup your database, you must purchase an extra license. If you mirror your server, you must purchase yet another license. If you do database sharding for your databases in the cloud, each instance requires its own license

                Excluding the back up part do you have an example of another commercial persistence store solution that doesn't require that in at least some production scenarios?

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                jschell wrote:

                commercial persistence store solution

                Not sure what that means. You mean a company that sells data? I don't know, find me a company that sells data and I'll give their license a look see.

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                  jschell wrote:

                  commercial persistence store solution

                  Not sure what that means. You mean a company that sells data? I don't know, find me a company that sells data and I'll give their license a look see.

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                  I see. I misunderstood the nature of the service. However I suspect they are simply dealing with the issue of data copying in the easiest way possible.

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                    I see. I misunderstood the nature of the service. However I suspect they are simply dealing with the issue of data copying in the easiest way possible.

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                    Yeah, when you give them money they let you download a ZIP file, which contains a CSV of data. You can then do your own work to import that into whatever database you want (your own database that they have no part in).

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                    I suspect they are simply dealing with the issue of data copying in the easiest way possible

                    I suspect they are gouging companies of as much money as possible.

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                      Yeah, when you give them money they let you download a ZIP file, which contains a CSV of data. You can then do your own work to import that into whatever database you want (your own database that they have no part in).

                      jschell wrote:

                      I suspect they are simply dealing with the issue of data copying in the easiest way possible

                      I suspect they are gouging companies of as much money as possible.

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                      AspDotNetDev wrote:

                      I suspect they are gouging companies of as much money as possible.

                      Pretty sure that that is exactly what the vast majority of companies do. Especially the ones that are going to last.

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