It's getting hotter

Lost User

I'm glad to see someone other than the US/UK show an interest... :| Mike Mullikin :beer:

I'm not convinced that oil is the problem. I'm pretty sure we could fly over the Middle East and drop bags of money and they'd still want to kill us for blocking the view. - Scott Adams

Chris Austin

The whole damn thing is just f@#$%ing stupid. I can't belive the N.Korean's still hold this grudge with Japan. Were talking about a whole new generation of Japanese people who are some wonderfull people and have nothing to do with Japan's past transgressions. This stuff is just getting out of control. Thanks "W", I don't think any of this would have happened without the "Axis-of-Evil" speech. The village idiot is running the country. "Veni, Vidi, Booyah!" - Ceasar

Lost User

Chris Austin wrote: Thanks "W", I don't think any of this would have happened without the "Axis-of-Evil" speech. The village idiot is running the country. Ummm.... huh? Iraq and NK were building their weapons systems long before GWB was elected. Keep in mind it is actually possible that something wrong in the world is NOT Bush's fault. Mike Mullikin :beer:

I'm not convinced that oil is the problem. I'm pretty sure we could fly over the Middle East and drop bags of money and they'd still want to kill us for blocking the view. - Scott Adams

Chris Austin

Mike Mullikin wrote: Iraq and NK were building their weapons systems long before GWB was elected. True; but it the situation was exasperated by his stupid speach. And, why should we judge them evil for possessingthe same weapons we maintain? Mike Mullikin wrote: Keep in mind it is actually possible that something wrong in the world is NOT Bush's fault. Of course, but his ill-spoken rethoric is just making it worse. "Veni, Vidi, Booyah!" - Ceasar

Rohit Sinha

Is it just me, or does anyone else think we might be getting close to a WWIII? :(( :(( :(( (Don't ask why I think so, I don't have it very clear myself, I Just think so.)
Regards,

Rohit Sinha

Character is like a tree, and reputation like its shadow. The shadow is what we think of it; the tree is the real thing.
- Abraham Lincoln

The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going.
- Anonymous

Lost User

Chris Austin wrote: And, why should we judge them evil for possessing the same weapons we maintain? #1 - Both have terrible human rights records. #2 - Both have shown expansionist tendancies. #3 - Both signed agreements not to develop WMD's and have broken those agreements. #4 - The less WMDs in the world, the better. This is not a case of "we have 'em but you can't". It's a case of "you've shown you can't be trusted with 'em, so we intend to take 'em away from you". Not the greatest situation to be in, but burying our head in the sand won't work either. Chris Austin wrote: ...but his ill-spoken rethoric is just making it worse How? The Iraqi leaders do not respond well to diplomacy. They have been breaking UN resolutions for 10+ years. Diplomacy has not even slowed them down. The doves in the UN still believe that ignoring the problem will make it go away. When the $hit hits the fan, how many people have to die before they decide to react? 1,000? 10,000? 100,000? 1,000,000? 10,000,000? Don't get me started on NK. IMHO we need every nation located even close to NK screaming bloody murder right now. I applaud Japan for having the intestinal fortitude to do the right thing. How exactly did Bush's speech change anything, other than let them know we're watching and that we take this $hit seriously even if others do not. Mike Mullikin :beer:

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Brad Jennings

Nice sig:) Brad Jennings "if the golden arches shut shop, where else are the VB people going to get work." - Colin Davies

Chris Losinger

Chris Austin wrote: Thanks "W", I don't think any of this would have happened without the "Axis-of-Evil" speech. The village idiot is running the country. i agree. his lack of diplomatic skills is turning even our allies away. -c

Be very, very careful what you put into that head, because you will never, ever get it out. --Thomas Cardinal Wolsey

Fractals

Chris Austin

Rohit Sinha wrote: (Don't ask why I think so, I don't have it very clear myself, I Just think so.) Because our leaders have betrayed us. Man I am pissed off today "Veni, Vidi, Booyah!" - Ceasar

Paul Watson

Chris Austin wrote: I can't belive the N.Korean's still hold this grudge with Japan. Were talking about a whole new generation of Japanese people who are some wonderfull people and have nothing to do with Japan's past transgressions. Dude, I hear you but remember even now Africans resent the west for pillaging Africa. And that was 350 years ago. Shoulder chips die hard, especially when you can milk it for many more years.

Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa

Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: I don't know much about Artificial Intelligence, but I've seen a lot of Natural Stupidity in the corporate world...

Scorp1us

Oh god, not another Nostradamas believer :omg:

Chris Austin

Paul Watson wrote: Shoulder chips die hard, especially when you can milk it for many more years. I guess you are right; I just don't understand the mentality. I dont lurch around complaining about the Cherokees being forced into Oklahoma only to have it taken away later. I still get pissed off over stuff like this. And for some reason (stupid PHBs) I am realy pissed off today ;). "Veni, Vidi, Booyah!" - Ceasar

Rohit Sinha

Scorp1us wrote: Nostradamas believer That's not me. Why did you think so? Because of the WW comment? Nah. :) In fact, I had forgotten all about him till I read your post.
Regards,

Rohit Sinha

Character is like a tree, and reputation like its shadow. The shadow is what we think of it; the tree is the real thing.
- Abraham Lincoln

The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going.
- Anonymous

Roger Wright

Paul Watson wrote: Africans resent the west for pillaging Africa Odd. It was their own tribesmen that sold them to the European traders... It is ok for women not to like sports, so long as they nod in the right places and bring beers at the right times.
Paul Watson, on Sports - 2/10/2003

Paul Watson

Roger Wright wrote: Odd. It was their own tribesmen that sold them to the European traders... Indeed, not to mention the helping hand Arab traders gave in slavery. But I guess it is easier for Africans to remember white men pillaging Africa than to remember it was their own brothers and friends.

Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa

Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: I don't know much about Artificial Intelligence, but I've seen a lot of Natural Stupidity in the corporate world...

Matt Gullett

Chris Austin wrote: True; but it the situation was exasperated by his stupid speach. And, why should we judge them evil for possessingthe same weapons we maintain? I have to jump in here and disagree. The issues (NK and Iraq) that we have today has existed for quite some time, it is just more visible now. Bush's speech did not create a crisis, it only shed light on an existing one. Would you prefer to not know there was a crisis and just wait for a major accident/terrorist strike/nuclear arms sale (what do you think NK is going to do with this techology?) Blaming these issues on Bush is short-sighted and not a very well thought our argument. NK did not magically develop nuke technology in the past 14 months. Anyone who believes Iraq is not hiding munitions, etc is closing their eyes and singing "Mary had a little lamb...".