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  • J Johnny J

    I was just wondering: At my company we work with source control. That means that from time to time, I have different versions of the same projects checked out in different folders. Let's for the sake of argument say that I have a project named "WCFConsole" checked out in 3 different folders (different versions). And this is not the first time, so I have had all three projects open in VS 2012 before. My problem now is that when I open VS 2012 and look at the Recent Projects list, I have 3 entries named "WCFConsole", and it's not immediately apparent which one I want to open at the given time. If I hover over the project name, I get a tooltip showing the complete path to the project. But with a path of 50-100 characters that pretty much look like any other path, it's not that easy to see which project version it's actually pointing to. What I would really like to be able to do is assign the recent projects an alias that would show straight off which version it was. That is of course not a feature available in VS, so I wonder: Does anybody know of any plug in that can make this scenario easier ??? Our company can't be the only one that works this way, so how do others do??? :confused:

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    Back in the time when I was still programming, I had set up a virtual letter drive (L:/ to be precise) for the root of my projects directory. This shortens a lot the path in the hover tooltips, hence making them distinguishable.

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    I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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    • J Johnny J

      I was just wondering: At my company we work with source control. That means that from time to time, I have different versions of the same projects checked out in different folders. Let's for the sake of argument say that I have a project named "WCFConsole" checked out in 3 different folders (different versions). And this is not the first time, so I have had all three projects open in VS 2012 before. My problem now is that when I open VS 2012 and look at the Recent Projects list, I have 3 entries named "WCFConsole", and it's not immediately apparent which one I want to open at the given time. If I hover over the project name, I get a tooltip showing the complete path to the project. But with a path of 50-100 characters that pretty much look like any other path, it's not that easy to see which project version it's actually pointing to. What I would really like to be able to do is assign the recent projects an alias that would show straight off which version it was. That is of course not a feature available in VS, so I wonder: Does anybody know of any plug in that can make this scenario easier ??? Our company can't be the only one that works this way, so how do others do??? :confused:

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      I do this exact same thing with our product. We support four versions. I keep each version in a separate folder whose name contains the version number.

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        Can you fiddle with your disk layout to get shorter paths? My source folders look like this, which puts the truck/branchFoo information at the start of the folder paths where it's easy to find.

        C:\SVN\ProjectA\trunk\Loremipsumdolor\sitametconsectetuer\adipiscingelitsed.sln
        C:\SVN\ProjectA\trunk\Loremipsumdolor\diamnonummynibh\euismodtinciduntut.sln
        C:\SVN\ProjectB\trunk\laoreetdoloremagna\aliquameratvolutpat\Utwisienim\adminimveniam\quisnostrud.sln
        C:\SVN\ProjectB\branch\exercitationullamcorper\laoreetdoloremagna\aliquameratvolutpat\Utwisienim\adminimveniam\quisnostrud.sln
        C:\SVN\ProjectB\branch\suscipitlobortisnisl\laoreetdoloremagna\aliquameratvolutpat\Utwisienim\adminimveniam\quisnostrud.sln
        C:\HG\ProjectC\trunk\utaliquipex\eacommodo\consequat.sln

        Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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        Yeah, but I would rather not have to rely on the folder path as it takes some time "deciphering" anyway, I'd prefer some simpler solution.

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        • J Johnny J

          I was just wondering: At my company we work with source control. That means that from time to time, I have different versions of the same projects checked out in different folders. Let's for the sake of argument say that I have a project named "WCFConsole" checked out in 3 different folders (different versions). And this is not the first time, so I have had all three projects open in VS 2012 before. My problem now is that when I open VS 2012 and look at the Recent Projects list, I have 3 entries named "WCFConsole", and it's not immediately apparent which one I want to open at the given time. If I hover over the project name, I get a tooltip showing the complete path to the project. But with a path of 50-100 characters that pretty much look like any other path, it's not that easy to see which project version it's actually pointing to. What I would really like to be able to do is assign the recent projects an alias that would show straight off which version it was. That is of course not a feature available in VS, so I wonder: Does anybody know of any plug in that can make this scenario easier ??? Our company can't be the only one that works this way, so how do others do??? :confused:

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          Sounds like something I might want to develop once I've finished with the Intel stuff. It would be relatively easy to add to MoXAML.

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          • R Ravi Bhavnani

            I never use the VS File|Open command or the recent projects list to open a project.  Instead, I have shortcuts to different projects' .sln files added to a program launcher I wrote (FooBar[^]).  You can use any other launcher or simply put the shortcuts on your desktop and name them appropriately. /ravi

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            I have a problem with that, because very often VS will simply say that it can't open the solution. I think it has to do with admin privileges or something like that, but even though I've set "Run as admin" in all places I can think of, I still encounter that problem... :sigh:

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            • R Rage

              Back in the time when I was still programming, I had set up a virtual letter drive (L:/ to be precise) for the root of my projects directory. This shortens a lot the path in the hover tooltips, hence making them distinguishable.

              ~RaGE();

              I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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              Johnny J
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              That's not a bad idea, actually. Might be a part of the solution... Thanks :thumbsup:

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              Beidh ceol, caint agus craic againn - Seán Bán Breathnach
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              • D David Crow

                I do this exact same thing with our product. We support four versions. I keep each version in a separate folder whose name contains the version number.

                "One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson

                "Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons

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                Johnny J
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                Yeah, but as mentioned, I don't think that's a good solution to rely on manually "deciphering" the path names, so I was looking for something simpler. Think I'll test Richards idea av VSCommands 2012 first...

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                • P Pete OHanlon

                  Sounds like something I might want to develop once I've finished with the Intel stuff. It would be relatively easy to add to MoXAML.

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                  Cool, knock yourself out! I'll be happy to test it out. :thumbsup: Would make for a good CS article, anyways (even compared to OG's extremely high article standards... :-D)

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                  • D Dan Neely

                    Can you fiddle with your disk layout to get shorter paths? My source folders look like this, which puts the truck/branchFoo information at the start of the folder paths where it's easy to find.

                    C:\SVN\ProjectA\trunk\Loremipsumdolor\sitametconsectetuer\adipiscingelitsed.sln
                    C:\SVN\ProjectA\trunk\Loremipsumdolor\diamnonummynibh\euismodtinciduntut.sln
                    C:\SVN\ProjectB\trunk\laoreetdoloremagna\aliquameratvolutpat\Utwisienim\adminimveniam\quisnostrud.sln
                    C:\SVN\ProjectB\branch\exercitationullamcorper\laoreetdoloremagna\aliquameratvolutpat\Utwisienim\adminimveniam\quisnostrud.sln
                    C:\SVN\ProjectB\branch\suscipitlobortisnisl\laoreetdoloremagna\aliquameratvolutpat\Utwisienim\adminimveniam\quisnostrud.sln
                    C:\HG\ProjectC\trunk\utaliquipex\eacommodo\consequat.sln

                    Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                    Wow, how do you get by with all these Latin pathnames ? ok, I am out.

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                    • J Johnny J

                      I was just wondering: At my company we work with source control. That means that from time to time, I have different versions of the same projects checked out in different folders. Let's for the sake of argument say that I have a project named "WCFConsole" checked out in 3 different folders (different versions). And this is not the first time, so I have had all three projects open in VS 2012 before. My problem now is that when I open VS 2012 and look at the Recent Projects list, I have 3 entries named "WCFConsole", and it's not immediately apparent which one I want to open at the given time. If I hover over the project name, I get a tooltip showing the complete path to the project. But with a path of 50-100 characters that pretty much look like any other path, it's not that easy to see which project version it's actually pointing to. What I would really like to be able to do is assign the recent projects an alias that would show straight off which version it was. That is of course not a feature available in VS, so I wonder: Does anybody know of any plug in that can make this scenario easier ??? Our company can't be the only one that works this way, so how do others do??? :confused:

                      Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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                      Beidh ceol, caint agus craic againn - Seán Bán Breathnach
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                      Da mihi sis crustum Etruscum cum omnibus in eo!
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                      Just because a thing is new don’t mean that it’s better - Will Rogers, September 4, 1932

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                      Why not put shortcuts to the projects / solutions either on the desktop or in a folder? And if you consider the desktop, might I suggest fences[^], which I find to really help organize the desktop clutter. Marc

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                        Why not put shortcuts to the projects / solutions either on the desktop or in a folder? And if you consider the desktop, might I suggest fences[^], which I find to really help organize the desktop clutter. Marc

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                        That's a great looking tool Marc. I can't help but wonder why that isn't the default behaviour for W8.

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                        • J Johnny J

                          I have a problem with that, because very often VS will simply say that it can't open the solution. I think it has to do with admin privileges or something like that, but even though I've set "Run as admin" in all places I can think of, I still encounter that problem... :sigh:

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                          Beidh ceol, caint agus craic againn - Seán Bán Breathnach
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                          I wish VS would fail fast and loud when it can't open everything instead of spending several minutes loading the 95% of a large solution it can, and then change the startup project because it can't talk to realIIS unless started with admin rights.

                          Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                            That's a great looking tool Marc. I can't help but wonder why that isn't the default behaviour for W8.

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                            I've used Fences for a long time, and can highly recommend it! It has everything you could ever want - and more. As for why it's not default for W8, the answer is simple: MS doesn't want you to use the classic desktop anymore! X|

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                            Beidh ceol, caint agus craic againn - Seán Bán Breathnach
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                              I wish VS would fail fast and loud when it can't open everything instead of spending several minutes loading the 95% of a large solution it can, and then change the startup project because it can't talk to realIIS unless started with admin rights.

                              Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                              Exactly, that's another thing: It takes forever before it complains!

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                                I've used Fences for a long time, and can highly recommend it! It has everything you could ever want - and more. As for why it's not default for W8, the answer is simple: MS doesn't want you to use the classic desktop anymore! X|

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                                There's no reason you couldn't organise the live tiles like this though. Having containers to drop live tiles into would make the whole experience a lot easier to navigate.

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                                  I've used Fences for a long time, and can highly recommend it! It has everything you could ever want - and more. As for why it's not default for W8, the answer is simple: MS doesn't want you to use the classic desktop anymore! X|

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                                  Johnny J. wrote:

                                  I've used Fences for a long time, and can highly recommend it! It has everything you could ever want - and more.

                                  I also use fences. It's fantastic.

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                                    Back in the time when I was still programming, I had set up a virtual letter drive (L:/ to be precise) for the root of my projects directory. This shortens a lot the path in the hover tooltips, hence making them distinguishable.

                                    ~RaGE();

                                    I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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                                    So every morning when you got in the office you would "Go to L"?

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                                      That's a great looking tool Marc. I can't help but wonder why that isn't the default behaviour for W8.

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                                      Is it not ? You can organize your tiles in dedicated containers, or use the search function to launch the applications.

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                                        I was just wondering: At my company we work with source control. That means that from time to time, I have different versions of the same projects checked out in different folders. Let's for the sake of argument say that I have a project named "WCFConsole" checked out in 3 different folders (different versions). And this is not the first time, so I have had all three projects open in VS 2012 before. My problem now is that when I open VS 2012 and look at the Recent Projects list, I have 3 entries named "WCFConsole", and it's not immediately apparent which one I want to open at the given time. If I hover over the project name, I get a tooltip showing the complete path to the project. But with a path of 50-100 characters that pretty much look like any other path, it's not that easy to see which project version it's actually pointing to. What I would really like to be able to do is assign the recent projects an alias that would show straight off which version it was. That is of course not a feature available in VS, so I wonder: Does anybody know of any plug in that can make this scenario easier ??? Our company can't be the only one that works this way, so how do others do??? :confused:

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                                        In my company when we have to do this sort of thing, we create a branch in source control. Once you have 1 branch per "version", then you can just double-click the solution file in Source Control Explorer (obviously this tip only works if you're using TFS or something that integrates with VS like TFS). Don't even have the Start Page show up in my VS anymore. Source Control Explorer is always open, though.

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                                          In my company when we have to do this sort of thing, we create a branch in source control. Once you have 1 branch per "version", then you can just double-click the solution file in Source Control Explorer (obviously this tip only works if you're using TFS or something that integrates with VS like TFS). Don't even have the Start Page show up in my VS anymore. Source Control Explorer is always open, though.

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                                          You don't get my point: We DO create branches in source control. But sometimes it's necessary to have more than one branch checked out at a time, for instance the current branch in production, the current branch in test and the branch under development. Switching one local repository between the branches all the time is not always a good solution.

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