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  • P Pete OHanlon

    That's a great looking tool Marc. I can't help but wonder why that isn't the default behaviour for W8.

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    Johnny J
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    I've used Fences for a long time, and can highly recommend it! It has everything you could ever want - and more. As for why it's not default for W8, the answer is simple: MS doesn't want you to use the classic desktop anymore! X|

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      I wish VS would fail fast and loud when it can't open everything instead of spending several minutes loading the 95% of a large solution it can, and then change the startup project because it can't talk to realIIS unless started with admin rights.

      Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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      Johnny J
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      Exactly, that's another thing: It takes forever before it complains!

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      • J Johnny J

        I've used Fences for a long time, and can highly recommend it! It has everything you could ever want - and more. As for why it's not default for W8, the answer is simple: MS doesn't want you to use the classic desktop anymore! X|

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        Pete OHanlon
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        There's no reason you couldn't organise the live tiles like this though. Having containers to drop live tiles into would make the whole experience a lot easier to navigate.

        I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
        CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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        • J Johnny J

          I've used Fences for a long time, and can highly recommend it! It has everything you could ever want - and more. As for why it's not default for W8, the answer is simple: MS doesn't want you to use the classic desktop anymore! X|

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          Shelby Robertson
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          Johnny J. wrote:

          I've used Fences for a long time, and can highly recommend it! It has everything you could ever want - and more.

          I also use fences. It's fantastic.

          CPallini wrote:

          You cannot argue with agile people so just take the extreme approach and shoot him. :Smile:

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          • R Rage

            Back in the time when I was still programming, I had set up a virtual letter drive (L:/ to be precise) for the root of my projects directory. This shortens a lot the path in the hover tooltips, hence making them distinguishable.

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            So every morning when you got in the office you would "Go to L"?

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            • P Pete OHanlon

              That's a great looking tool Marc. I can't help but wonder why that isn't the default behaviour for W8.

              I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
              CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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              Is it not ? You can organize your tiles in dedicated containers, or use the search function to launch the applications.

              ~RaGE();

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              • J Johnny J

                I was just wondering: At my company we work with source control. That means that from time to time, I have different versions of the same projects checked out in different folders. Let's for the sake of argument say that I have a project named "WCFConsole" checked out in 3 different folders (different versions). And this is not the first time, so I have had all three projects open in VS 2012 before. My problem now is that when I open VS 2012 and look at the Recent Projects list, I have 3 entries named "WCFConsole", and it's not immediately apparent which one I want to open at the given time. If I hover over the project name, I get a tooltip showing the complete path to the project. But with a path of 50-100 characters that pretty much look like any other path, it's not that easy to see which project version it's actually pointing to. What I would really like to be able to do is assign the recent projects an alias that would show straight off which version it was. That is of course not a feature available in VS, so I wonder: Does anybody know of any plug in that can make this scenario easier ??? Our company can't be the only one that works this way, so how do others do??? :confused:

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                In my company when we have to do this sort of thing, we create a branch in source control. Once you have 1 branch per "version", then you can just double-click the solution file in Source Control Explorer (obviously this tip only works if you're using TFS or something that integrates with VS like TFS). Don't even have the Start Page show up in my VS anymore. Source Control Explorer is always open, though.

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                  In my company when we have to do this sort of thing, we create a branch in source control. Once you have 1 branch per "version", then you can just double-click the solution file in Source Control Explorer (obviously this tip only works if you're using TFS or something that integrates with VS like TFS). Don't even have the Start Page show up in my VS anymore. Source Control Explorer is always open, though.

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                  You don't get my point: We DO create branches in source control. But sometimes it's necessary to have more than one branch checked out at a time, for instance the current branch in production, the current branch in test and the branch under development. Switching one local repository between the branches all the time is not always a good solution.

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                  • R Rage

                    Is it not ? You can organize your tiles in dedicated containers, or use the search function to launch the applications.

                    ~RaGE();

                    I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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                    Pete OHanlon
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                    Having to use search to launch applications is a nonsense.

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                    • J Johnny J

                      I was just wondering: At my company we work with source control. That means that from time to time, I have different versions of the same projects checked out in different folders. Let's for the sake of argument say that I have a project named "WCFConsole" checked out in 3 different folders (different versions). And this is not the first time, so I have had all three projects open in VS 2012 before. My problem now is that when I open VS 2012 and look at the Recent Projects list, I have 3 entries named "WCFConsole", and it's not immediately apparent which one I want to open at the given time. If I hover over the project name, I get a tooltip showing the complete path to the project. But with a path of 50-100 characters that pretty much look like any other path, it's not that easy to see which project version it's actually pointing to. What I would really like to be able to do is assign the recent projects an alias that would show straight off which version it was. That is of course not a feature available in VS, so I wonder: Does anybody know of any plug in that can make this scenario easier ??? Our company can't be the only one that works this way, so how do others do??? :confused:

                      Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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                      Beidh ceol, caint agus craic againn - Seán Bán Breathnach
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                      Da mihi sis crustum Etruscum cum omnibus in eo!
                      -----
                      Just because a thing is new don’t mean that it’s better - Will Rogers, September 4, 1932

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                      I have seen this as well and because we have some shared lab machines, another person might have the same project checked out into a folder and I would have mine in another folder. What I did is I stopped using recent projects on that machine. I got into the habit of just opening the solution directly from the source code window instead.

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                      • P Pete OHanlon

                        Having to use search to launch applications is a nonsense.

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                        Rage
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                        I don't think so. I type "mspaint"+Enter much faster than looking for the application in any menu or container or ....

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                        • P Pete OHanlon

                          Sounds like something I might want to develop once I've finished with the Intel stuff. It would be relatively easy to add to MoXAML.

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                          Albert Holguin
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                          I'd be happy to test as well... I have the same problem... I usually just navigate using explorer but that can't possibly be the best solution.

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                          • J Johnny J

                            I was just wondering: At my company we work with source control. That means that from time to time, I have different versions of the same projects checked out in different folders. Let's for the sake of argument say that I have a project named "WCFConsole" checked out in 3 different folders (different versions). And this is not the first time, so I have had all three projects open in VS 2012 before. My problem now is that when I open VS 2012 and look at the Recent Projects list, I have 3 entries named "WCFConsole", and it's not immediately apparent which one I want to open at the given time. If I hover over the project name, I get a tooltip showing the complete path to the project. But with a path of 50-100 characters that pretty much look like any other path, it's not that easy to see which project version it's actually pointing to. What I would really like to be able to do is assign the recent projects an alias that would show straight off which version it was. That is of course not a feature available in VS, so I wonder: Does anybody know of any plug in that can make this scenario easier ??? Our company can't be the only one that works this way, so how do others do??? :confused:

                            Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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                            Beidh ceol, caint agus craic againn - Seán Bán Breathnach
                            -----
                            Da mihi sis crustum Etruscum cum omnibus in eo!
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                            Just because a thing is new don’t mean that it’s better - Will Rogers, September 4, 1932

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                            Albert Holguin
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                            I've ran into this very same annoyance... I usually just have a "Development" folder that has all my projects and in Windows 7 add that to the "Pinned" directories and just navigate to the solution.... but it is more of a pain than it could be. I've actually wondered about the ability to give project names aliases before as well... let me know if you find a satisfactory solution (I use VS2008 primarily btw).

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                            • V Vark111

                              In my company when we have to do this sort of thing, we create a branch in source control. Once you have 1 branch per "version", then you can just double-click the solution file in Source Control Explorer (obviously this tip only works if you're using TFS or something that integrates with VS like TFS). Don't even have the Start Page show up in my VS anymore. Source Control Explorer is always open, though.

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                              Even if you have more branches, the solution name doesn't change, that's what he's getting at... It is annoying, I know what he means...

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                              • R Rage

                                I don't think so. I type "mspaint"+Enter much faster than looking for the application in any menu or container or ....

                                ~RaGE();

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                                Pete OHanlon
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                                That assumes you know, and can remember, what the app is called under the covers. Oh, and the search for bringing things up as you type doesn't work for every shortcut - try typing in eve and see where eventvwr is in that list. And yes - I do use W8. On a touchscreen device. I like it, but I wish that the start screen was better organised. Why, for instance, does moving certain icons around not move them into the available space at the bottom of one column, but instead insists on being at the top of the next column? This is just insanity.

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                                • J Johnny J

                                  I was just wondering: At my company we work with source control. That means that from time to time, I have different versions of the same projects checked out in different folders. Let's for the sake of argument say that I have a project named "WCFConsole" checked out in 3 different folders (different versions). And this is not the first time, so I have had all three projects open in VS 2012 before. My problem now is that when I open VS 2012 and look at the Recent Projects list, I have 3 entries named "WCFConsole", and it's not immediately apparent which one I want to open at the given time. If I hover over the project name, I get a tooltip showing the complete path to the project. But with a path of 50-100 characters that pretty much look like any other path, it's not that easy to see which project version it's actually pointing to. What I would really like to be able to do is assign the recent projects an alias that would show straight off which version it was. That is of course not a feature available in VS, so I wonder: Does anybody know of any plug in that can make this scenario easier ??? Our company can't be the only one that works this way, so how do others do??? :confused:

                                  Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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                                  Beidh ceol, caint agus craic againn - Seán Bán Breathnach
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                                  Sounds like your software process needs improvement. In the interest of making shorter paths, you could look into junctions.

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                                  • P Pete OHanlon

                                    That assumes you know, and can remember, what the app is called under the covers. Oh, and the search for bringing things up as you type doesn't work for every shortcut - try typing in eve and see where eventvwr is in that list. And yes - I do use W8. On a touchscreen device. I like it, but I wish that the start screen was better organised. Why, for instance, does moving certain icons around not move them into the available space at the bottom of one column, but instead insists on being at the top of the next column? This is just insanity.

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                                    OK, I was not speaking about touchscreen device. But I doubt anyone would use them to do any development.

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                                      OK, I was not speaking about touchscreen device. But I doubt anyone would use them to do any development.

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                                      Pete OHanlon
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                                      I'm using an Ultrabook with touchscreen - I spend an inordinate amount of time swapping from keyboard to touch and back again. It's surprisingly productive.

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                                      • A Albert Holguin

                                        I'd be happy to test as well... I have the same problem... I usually just navigate using explorer but that can't possibly be the best solution.

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                                        Pete OHanlon
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                                        Remind me in about three weeks time. It will be good to have a smaller project to look at. I need to update MoXAML to VS2012 anyway, so this would be a good place to start.

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                                        • J Johnny J

                                          I was just wondering: At my company we work with source control. That means that from time to time, I have different versions of the same projects checked out in different folders. Let's for the sake of argument say that I have a project named "WCFConsole" checked out in 3 different folders (different versions). And this is not the first time, so I have had all three projects open in VS 2012 before. My problem now is that when I open VS 2012 and look at the Recent Projects list, I have 3 entries named "WCFConsole", and it's not immediately apparent which one I want to open at the given time. If I hover over the project name, I get a tooltip showing the complete path to the project. But with a path of 50-100 characters that pretty much look like any other path, it's not that easy to see which project version it's actually pointing to. What I would really like to be able to do is assign the recent projects an alias that would show straight off which version it was. That is of course not a feature available in VS, so I wonder: Does anybody know of any plug in that can make this scenario easier ??? Our company can't be the only one that works this way, so how do others do??? :confused:

                                          Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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                                          Beidh ceol, caint agus craic againn - Seán Bán Breathnach
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                                          Da mihi sis crustum Etruscum cum omnibus in eo!
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                                          I never run into this, as I usually open the solutions from their location rather than from a recents menu.

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