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  • J Johnny J

    I was just wondering: At my company we work with source control. That means that from time to time, I have different versions of the same projects checked out in different folders. Let's for the sake of argument say that I have a project named "WCFConsole" checked out in 3 different folders (different versions). And this is not the first time, so I have had all three projects open in VS 2012 before. My problem now is that when I open VS 2012 and look at the Recent Projects list, I have 3 entries named "WCFConsole", and it's not immediately apparent which one I want to open at the given time. If I hover over the project name, I get a tooltip showing the complete path to the project. But with a path of 50-100 characters that pretty much look like any other path, it's not that easy to see which project version it's actually pointing to. What I would really like to be able to do is assign the recent projects an alias that would show straight off which version it was. That is of course not a feature available in VS, so I wonder: Does anybody know of any plug in that can make this scenario easier ??? Our company can't be the only one that works this way, so how do others do??? :confused:

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    PIEBALDconsult
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    Sounds like your software process needs improvement. In the interest of making shorter paths, you could look into junctions.

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    • P Pete OHanlon

      That assumes you know, and can remember, what the app is called under the covers. Oh, and the search for bringing things up as you type doesn't work for every shortcut - try typing in eve and see where eventvwr is in that list. And yes - I do use W8. On a touchscreen device. I like it, but I wish that the start screen was better organised. Why, for instance, does moving certain icons around not move them into the available space at the bottom of one column, but instead insists on being at the top of the next column? This is just insanity.

      I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
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      Rage
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      OK, I was not speaking about touchscreen device. But I doubt anyone would use them to do any development.

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      I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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        OK, I was not speaking about touchscreen device. But I doubt anyone would use them to do any development.

        ~RaGE();

        I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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        Pete OHanlon
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        I'm using an Ultrabook with touchscreen - I spend an inordinate amount of time swapping from keyboard to touch and back again. It's surprisingly productive.

        I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
        CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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        • A Albert Holguin

          I'd be happy to test as well... I have the same problem... I usually just navigate using explorer but that can't possibly be the best solution.

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          Pete OHanlon
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          Remind me in about three weeks time. It will be good to have a smaller project to look at. I need to update MoXAML to VS2012 anyway, so this would be a good place to start.

          I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
          CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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          • J Johnny J

            I was just wondering: At my company we work with source control. That means that from time to time, I have different versions of the same projects checked out in different folders. Let's for the sake of argument say that I have a project named "WCFConsole" checked out in 3 different folders (different versions). And this is not the first time, so I have had all three projects open in VS 2012 before. My problem now is that when I open VS 2012 and look at the Recent Projects list, I have 3 entries named "WCFConsole", and it's not immediately apparent which one I want to open at the given time. If I hover over the project name, I get a tooltip showing the complete path to the project. But with a path of 50-100 characters that pretty much look like any other path, it's not that easy to see which project version it's actually pointing to. What I would really like to be able to do is assign the recent projects an alias that would show straight off which version it was. That is of course not a feature available in VS, so I wonder: Does anybody know of any plug in that can make this scenario easier ??? Our company can't be the only one that works this way, so how do others do??? :confused:

            Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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            Beidh ceol, caint agus craic againn - Seán Bán Breathnach
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            Da mihi sis crustum Etruscum cum omnibus in eo!
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            Just because a thing is new don’t mean that it’s better - Will Rogers, September 4, 1932

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            AspDotNetDev
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            I never run into this, as I usually open the solutions from their location rather than from a recents menu.

            Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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            • A Albert Holguin

              Even if you have more branches, the solution name doesn't change, that's what he's getting at... It is annoying, I know what he means...

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              Vark111
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              Yes, but in SCE each of those Solutions is in a different folder (branches are in their own folder). It's just like navigating via File Explorer, except it's built into VS.

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              • J Johnny J

                You don't get my point: We DO create branches in source control. But sometimes it's necessary to have more than one branch checked out at a time, for instance the current branch in production, the current branch in test and the branch under development. Switching one local repository between the branches all the time is not always a good solution.

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                Beidh ceol, caint agus craic againn - Seán Bán Breathnach
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                Da mihi sis crustum Etruscum cum omnibus in eo!
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                Just because a thing is new don’t mean that it’s better - Will Rogers, September 4, 1932

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                Vark111
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                Johnny J. wrote:

                Switching one local repository between the branches all the time is not always a good solution.

                You misunderstand - I'm not advocating switching local repos. In VS SCE, each of those branches is in a different folder - doesn't matter if they're named the same or not. When you open a solution from there, it just opens the corresponding local file.

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                • V Vark111

                  Yes, but in SCE each of those Solutions is in a different folder (branches are in their own folder). It's just like navigating via File Explorer, except it's built into VS.

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                  Albert Holguin
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                  Yeah, I know.... but it's still an issue... if you have four different branches open, they all have the same heading in Visual Studio.

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                  • A Albert Holguin

                    Yeah, I know.... but it's still an issue... if you have four different branches open, they all have the same heading in Visual Studio.

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                    Vark111
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                    Oh in that case, I totally agree - four different instances of VS open each with a different branch can lead to an excessive amount of alt-tabbing to find the right one. :)

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                    • V Vark111

                      Oh in that case, I totally agree - four different instances of VS open each with a different branch can lead to an excessive amount of alt-tabbing to find the right one. :)

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                      Albert Holguin
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                      Yeah... I had noticed this annoyance first when I was working on two branches that were nearly identical... I couldn't easily have them both open at the same time because I would lose track which one was what. You'd figure with how long the concept of branches has been around Studio would deal with it more gracefully.

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                      • R Rage

                        Wow, how do you get by with all these Latin pathnames ? ok, I am out.

                        ~RaGE();

                        I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

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                        Dan Neely
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                        When the projects were started bacon ipsum/[^] wasn't available, so we had to make do with what was available then.

                        Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                        • J Johnny J

                          I've used Fences for a long time, and can highly recommend it! It has everything you could ever want - and more. As for why it's not default for W8, the answer is simple: MS doesn't want you to use the classic desktop anymore! X|

                          Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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                          Beidh ceol, caint agus craic againn - Seán Bán Breathnach
                          -----
                          Da mihi sis crustum Etruscum cum omnibus in eo!
                          -----
                          Just because a thing is new don’t mean that it’s better - Will Rogers, September 4, 1932

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                          jschell
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                          Johnny J. wrote:

                          I've used Fences for a long time

                          Just looked that up...it basically arranges desktop icons into containers....just like a file system. So why not just use the file system?

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                          • J jschell

                            Johnny J. wrote:

                            I've used Fences for a long time

                            Just looked that up...it basically arranges desktop icons into containers....just like a file system. So why not just use the file system?

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                            Johnny J
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                            It's nothing like that. You can't arrange desktop items in containers using the file system. Think you need to try it out!

                            Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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                            Beidh ceol, caint agus craic againn - Seán Bán Breathnach
                            -----
                            Da mihi sis crustum Etruscum cum omnibus in eo!
                            -----
                            Just because a thing is new don’t mean that it’s better - Will Rogers, September 4, 1932

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                            • J Johnny J

                              It's nothing like that. You can't arrange desktop items in containers using the file system. Think you need to try it out!

                              Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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                              Beidh ceol, caint agus craic againn - Seán Bán Breathnach
                              -----
                              Da mihi sis crustum Etruscum cum omnibus in eo!
                              -----
                              Just because a thing is new don’t mean that it’s better - Will Rogers, September 4, 1932

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                              jschell
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                              Johnny J. wrote:

                              You can't arrange desktop items

                              You do of course realize that desktop items are just references to actual content? I was referring to the concept inherent in the organizational structure as it relates to what people actually want to do - which is with the content. Not the icons.

                              Johnny J. wrote:

                              Think you need to try it out!

                              When I have a lot of stuff I use the file system. You should try it out!

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                              • J Johnny J

                                I was just wondering: At my company we work with source control. That means that from time to time, I have different versions of the same projects checked out in different folders. Let's for the sake of argument say that I have a project named "WCFConsole" checked out in 3 different folders (different versions). And this is not the first time, so I have had all three projects open in VS 2012 before. My problem now is that when I open VS 2012 and look at the Recent Projects list, I have 3 entries named "WCFConsole", and it's not immediately apparent which one I want to open at the given time. If I hover over the project name, I get a tooltip showing the complete path to the project. But with a path of 50-100 characters that pretty much look like any other path, it's not that easy to see which project version it's actually pointing to. What I would really like to be able to do is assign the recent projects an alias that would show straight off which version it was. That is of course not a feature available in VS, so I wonder: Does anybody know of any plug in that can make this scenario easier ??? Our company can't be the only one that works this way, so how do others do??? :confused:

                                Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
                                -----
                                Beidh ceol, caint agus craic againn - Seán Bán Breathnach
                                -----
                                Da mihi sis crustum Etruscum cum omnibus in eo!
                                -----
                                Just because a thing is new don’t mean that it’s better - Will Rogers, September 4, 1932

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                                Brady Kelly
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                                You have your reasons, but this wouldn't bother me much. I nearly always open a solution by double-clicking the .sln file in it's folder.

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