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  • D Dalek Dave

    See This[^] There is a line I draw your attention to... "(This text has been withheld because of exemptions in the Freedom of Information Act 2000)" The Tax Man is deliberately hiding information from the Tax-payer. Information that would, if released, mean that more tax-payers would be LEGALLY allowed to reduce their tax burdens. I would say "Unbelievable" but alas, all too believable!

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    Lost User
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    I was directed to a page around ten years where every single paragraph said that. I'll have to dig out the link, see if is the same.

    “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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    • D Dalek Dave

      See This[^] There is a line I draw your attention to... "(This text has been withheld because of exemptions in the Freedom of Information Act 2000)" The Tax Man is deliberately hiding information from the Tax-payer. Information that would, if released, mean that more tax-payers would be LEGALLY allowed to reduce their tax burdens. I would say "Unbelievable" but alas, all too believable!

      --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^]

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      S Houghtelin
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      Dalek Dave wrote:

      "(This text has been withheld because of exemptions in the Freedom of Information Act 2000)"

      I wonder if a tax payer could use that line when filling out their tax forms...:~

      It was broke, so I fixed it.

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      • N Nagy Vilmos

        Personally I would like to see as many exemptions as possible removed so that one and all have the same tax burden.

        Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol

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        Nagy Vilmos wrote:

        Personally I would like to see as many exemptions as possible removed so that one and all have the same tax burden.

        You leave Latvia alone.

        Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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        • D Dalek Dave

          See This[^] There is a line I draw your attention to... "(This text has been withheld because of exemptions in the Freedom of Information Act 2000)" The Tax Man is deliberately hiding information from the Tax-payer. Information that would, if released, mean that more tax-payers would be LEGALLY allowed to reduce their tax burdens. I would say "Unbelievable" but alas, all too believable!

          --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^]

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          jim lahey
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          More westminster doublespeak. What they really meant was "Restriction of Information Act 2000".

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          • N Nagy Vilmos

            Personally I would like to see as many exemptions as possible removed so that one and all have the same tax burden.

            Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol

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            Rob Grainger
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            I absolutely agree, although I suspect DD may not, as he currently (I suspect) makes a proportion of his income advising folk how to exploit such exemptions.

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              More westminster doublespeak. What they really meant was "Restriction of Information Act 2000".

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              Rob Grainger
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              My favourite recently is that they castigate labour for calling the bedroom tax a tax, while themselves referring to it as the "spare room bonus". I really don't see how being charged for a spare room can be considered a bonus!

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                My favourite recently is that they castigate labour for calling the bedroom tax a tax, while themselves referring to it as the "spare room bonus". I really don't see how being charged for a spare room can be considered a bonus!

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                Dalek Dave
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                It is a bonus for the Chancellor of the Exchequer!

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                  I absolutely agree, although I suspect DD may not, as he currently (I suspect) makes a proportion of his income advising folk how to exploit such exemptions.

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                  Dalek Dave
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                  If the morons that run the country are incapable of making sensible laws, it is the duty of the wise to exploit them. It was, I believe, Thomas Jefferson who said that it was every citizen's duty to pay the minimum amount of tax he was legally obliged to pay. I like Jefferson, my kinda guy!

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                  • D Dalek Dave

                    It is a bonus for the Chancellor of the Exchequer!

                    --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^]

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                    jim lahey
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                    He needs a nice treat to cheer him up. Being stuck in a job you're not remotely qualified, trained or even skilled to do is an unenviable position.

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                      He needs a nice treat to cheer him up. Being stuck in a job you're not remotely qualified, trained or even skilled to do is an unenviable position.

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                      Rhys Gravell
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                      The Peter Principle in action again

                      Rhys "If you ever start taking things too seriously, just remember that we are talking monkeys on an organic spaceship flying through the Universe"

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                      • N Nagy Vilmos

                        Personally I would like to see as many exemptions as possible removed so that one and all have the same tax burden.

                        Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol

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                        ZurdoDev
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                        Personally I would like to see as many exemptions as possible removed so that one and all have the same tax burden.

                        But the point of some tax exemptions are to help those who have other "burdens." For example, in the US, if I donate a lot more money than another person with the same income and expenses isn't it fair to give me a tax break? Or, if I have more kids my expenses are higher so it could be called fair to give me a tax break. However, I do somewhat agree with you. I think they should get rid of every single exemption and everyone pays the same percent of tax. That's the only way to be fair.

                        There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                          Personally I would like to see as many exemptions as possible removed so that one and all have the same tax burden.

                          But the point of some tax exemptions are to help those who have other "burdens." For example, in the US, if I donate a lot more money than another person with the same income and expenses isn't it fair to give me a tax break? Or, if I have more kids my expenses are higher so it could be called fair to give me a tax break. However, I do somewhat agree with you. I think they should get rid of every single exemption and everyone pays the same percent of tax. That's the only way to be fair.

                          There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                          Nagy Vilmos
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                          To an extent I agree with this however who chose to make the donation, who had the children? As you note if there where no exemptions all would start out equal and choose where their money went. My personal view is that purchase and corporate taxes should be much higher and personal taxes lower with greater allowances before tax has to be paid. Apart from that, tax breaks can take a flying hike.

                          Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol

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                          • D Dalek Dave

                            If the morons that run the country are incapable of making sensible laws, it is the duty of the wise to exploit them. It was, I believe, Thomas Jefferson who said that it was every citizen's duty to pay the minimum amount of tax he was legally obliged to pay. I like Jefferson, my kinda guy!

                            --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^]

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                            Nagy Vilmos
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                            How about if everyone pays their FULL share each individual's tax would go down? By avoiding paying a particular piece of tax, though legal, you are placing a higher burden on the rest of society.

                            Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol

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                            • D Dalek Dave

                              See This[^] There is a line I draw your attention to... "(This text has been withheld because of exemptions in the Freedom of Information Act 2000)" The Tax Man is deliberately hiding information from the Tax-payer. Information that would, if released, mean that more tax-payers would be LEGALLY allowed to reduce their tax burdens. I would say "Unbelievable" but alas, all too believable!

                              --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^]

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                              Matthew Faithfull
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                              Dave, If I were wanting to set up a trust, with a minor as the beneficiary, in such a way that the funds could be used exclusivey on the minor's behalf by the trutees until he/she reached their majority and then he/she would recieve the remaining funds? Would this be something you would recognize as possible/legal and who would I go to, to get something like that done? Sorry to drop a piano on you out of the blue but if you don't ask you don't get and all that.

                              "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                              • N Nagy Vilmos

                                To an extent I agree with this however who chose to make the donation, who had the children? As you note if there where no exemptions all would start out equal and choose where their money went. My personal view is that purchase and corporate taxes should be much higher and personal taxes lower with greater allowances before tax has to be paid. Apart from that, tax breaks can take a flying hike.

                                Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol

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                                ZurdoDev
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                                tax breaks can take a flying hike.

                                All the way into my checking account. :)

                                There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                                • N Nagy Vilmos

                                  How about if everyone pays their FULL share each individual's tax would go down? By avoiding paying a particular piece of tax, though legal, you are placing a higher burden on the rest of society.

                                  Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol

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                                  Dalek Dave
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                                  Sounds like communism to me. How about NO taxation beyond defence and social care costs (Medical care, road up-keep, policing etc). If we weren't paying for Foreign Aid, The EU, Feckless Breeding, Prisons, Elective medical services, Fighting America's Wars and The Arts we could reduce Income Tax to Zero.

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                                  • J jim lahey

                                    He needs a nice treat to cheer him up. Being stuck in a job you're not remotely qualified, trained or even skilled to do is an unenviable position.

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                                    Dalek Dave
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                                    You have met my MD?

                                    --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^]

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                                    • D Dalek Dave

                                      Sounds like communism to me. How about NO taxation beyond defence and social care costs (Medical care, road up-keep, policing etc). If we weren't paying for Foreign Aid, The EU, Feckless Breeding, Prisons, Elective medical services, Fighting America's Wars and The Arts we could reduce Income Tax to Zero.

                                      --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^]

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                                      Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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                                      with no prisons not only would your tax be zero but your wealth as well

                                      You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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                                        Dave, If I were wanting to set up a trust, with a minor as the beneficiary, in such a way that the funds could be used exclusivey on the minor's behalf by the trutees until he/she reached their majority and then he/she would recieve the remaining funds? Would this be something you would recognize as possible/legal and who would I go to, to get something like that done? Sorry to drop a piano on you out of the blue but if you don't ask you don't get and all that.

                                        "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                                        Dalek Dave
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                                        Both possible and legal, and, more importantly, tax efficient. I would recommend your first port of call is your local bank. There are several different types and it would be best to discuss your options with someone expert in the field. Junior ISA's are a start, but there are also Child based plans, Parent based plans and even Grandparent based plans. You can allocate part of your tax free savings allowance to help them build a tidy sum quite quickly.

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                                        • B Bergholt Stuttley Johnson

                                          with no prisons not only would your tax be zero but your wealth as well

                                          You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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                                          Dalek Dave
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                                          There would be plenty of prisons. I just said they would not be paid for out tax. I suggest we make the Prisoners pay their own keep. Either they sell assets or work within the prison system. It is their choice to break the law, so it was their choice to go to prison. Whilst there they could choose whether they want a nice single cell with three meals from a menu each day, or get crammed in 4 deep in a 8 by 12 box with gruel slopped into a bucket twice a day. It would a) save us a fortune, and b) reduce the crime rate.

                                          --------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^]

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