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  • B Brisingr Aerowing

    I believe this odd behavior has to do with how Windows Explorer caches information. Forcing a full refresh usually shows the edit. At least in my experience. (On iPad, so no functional spell check. And I hate the iPad 'keyboard'.)

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    S Houghtelin
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    Yep, just verified this on my Weven 32 & 64 machines. Rename a file and the capitalized letter would return to small. Hit F5 and they reflect the change.

    It was broke, so I fixed it.

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    • S supernorb

      I've inadvertently discovered this when trying renaming my file from 'maledefault' to 'maleDefault' and I couldn't rename it. Just capitalize the letter d, I think there is no case-sensitive string comparison here and tried renaming 'maledefault' to a different one (anything except Maledefault, mAledefault, MAledefault,...) then renamed that one to 'maleDefault'. Wow, I had to rename it indirectly. Is that a little annoying? Or there is some option which I don't know, to make the OS work properly as I want. Here is an instruction for renaming lowercase letters to uppercase letters (or vice versa) in Windows 7 (I'm not sure about others): To rename a -> A , you can't do it normally, just follow the following steps: 1. Rename a -> b (or c, d, or any other but a and A). 2. Rename b -> A 3. Enjoy. :laugh: Any idea?

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      Roger Wright
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      supernorb wrote:

      maleDefault

      Try sprinkling a little ground up Cialis in the USB port.

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      • S supernorb

        I've inadvertently discovered this when trying renaming my file from 'maledefault' to 'maleDefault' and I couldn't rename it. Just capitalize the letter d, I think there is no case-sensitive string comparison here and tried renaming 'maledefault' to a different one (anything except Maledefault, mAledefault, MAledefault,...) then renamed that one to 'maleDefault'. Wow, I had to rename it indirectly. Is that a little annoying? Or there is some option which I don't know, to make the OS work properly as I want. Here is an instruction for renaming lowercase letters to uppercase letters (or vice versa) in Windows 7 (I'm not sure about others): To rename a -> A , you can't do it normally, just follow the following steps: 1. Rename a -> b (or c, d, or any other but a and A). 2. Rename b -> A 3. Enjoy. :laugh: Any idea?

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        Lost User
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        This has always been the case in Windows; it's by design.

        Use the best guess

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        • S supernorb

          I've inadvertently discovered this when trying renaming my file from 'maledefault' to 'maleDefault' and I couldn't rename it. Just capitalize the letter d, I think there is no case-sensitive string comparison here and tried renaming 'maledefault' to a different one (anything except Maledefault, mAledefault, MAledefault,...) then renamed that one to 'maleDefault'. Wow, I had to rename it indirectly. Is that a little annoying? Or there is some option which I don't know, to make the OS work properly as I want. Here is an instruction for renaming lowercase letters to uppercase letters (or vice versa) in Windows 7 (I'm not sure about others): To rename a -> A , you can't do it normally, just follow the following steps: 1. Rename a -> b (or c, d, or any other but a and A). 2. Rename b -> A 3. Enjoy. :laugh: Any idea?

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          JimmyRopes
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          This is a well known "feature" of Windows from well before Win7.

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          • J JimmyRopes

            This is a well known "feature" of Windows from well before Win7.

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            supernorb
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            Ha ha, it's so funny, I like to call it 'feature' :laugh:

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            • L Lost User

              This has always been the case in Windows; it's by design.

              Use the best guess

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              supernorb
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              If it's by design, I really admire those ones who designed it that way. In fact, I bet there are many others who don't know about this 'feature' in Windows. (I've used Windows for 10 years but I just knew this a few days ago by accident.

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                supernorb wrote:

                maleDefault

                Try sprinkling a little ground up Cialis in the USB port.

                Will Rogers never met me.

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                supernorb
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                Sorry, I don't get what you want to mean, I'm not native English speaker, I don't like idioms (but like learning them) or anything similar. Thanks!

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                • S supernorb

                  Sorry, I don't get what you want to mean, I'm not native English speaker, I don't like idioms (but like learning them) or anything similar. Thanks!

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                  Roger Wright
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                  Ah, sorry about that. Male Default => premature or lacking. Cialis is a treatment for some disorders.

                  Will Rogers never met me.

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                  • S supernorb

                    If it's by design, I really admire those ones who designed it that way. In fact, I bet there are many others who don't know about this 'feature' in Windows. (I've used Windows for 10 years but I just knew this a few days ago by accident.

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                    Lost User
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                    Windows filenames have always been case insensitive, hence you cannot change case in situ. I've been aware of this since 3.1 days.

                    Use the best guess

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                    • S supernorb

                      I've inadvertently discovered this when trying renaming my file from 'maledefault' to 'maleDefault' and I couldn't rename it. Just capitalize the letter d, I think there is no case-sensitive string comparison here and tried renaming 'maledefault' to a different one (anything except Maledefault, mAledefault, MAledefault,...) then renamed that one to 'maleDefault'. Wow, I had to rename it indirectly. Is that a little annoying? Or there is some option which I don't know, to make the OS work properly as I want. Here is an instruction for renaming lowercase letters to uppercase letters (or vice versa) in Windows 7 (I'm not sure about others): To rename a -> A , you can't do it normally, just follow the following steps: 1. Rename a -> b (or c, d, or any other but a and A). 2. Rename b -> A 3. Enjoy. :laugh: Any idea?

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                      The Nightcoder
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                      Windows has been "case preserving, case insensitive" by design from start (unless you enable case sensitivity to be able to run POSIX apps that require it). The problem here is the UI (Explorer). Renaming a file like you want to via the API works fine, but Explorer doesn't understand that the name has change, and ignores the rename. It has come and gone and come again - like someone said - it works in Windows 7. Seems like someone missed checking the fix in to the right repo...

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                      • B Brisingr Aerowing

                        I believe this odd behavior has to do with how Windows Explorer caches information. Forcing a full refresh usually shows the edit. At least in my experience. (On iPad, so no functional spell check. And I hate the iPad 'keyboard'.)

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                        jsc42
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                        Thanks for that trick (I'll try it when I get home [Work PC is still WXP]). I have always used the double rename method on W7 and it has been an annoyance, so this simple work-around is good.

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                        • S supernorb

                          I've inadvertently discovered this when trying renaming my file from 'maledefault' to 'maleDefault' and I couldn't rename it. Just capitalize the letter d, I think there is no case-sensitive string comparison here and tried renaming 'maledefault' to a different one (anything except Maledefault, mAledefault, MAledefault,...) then renamed that one to 'maleDefault'. Wow, I had to rename it indirectly. Is that a little annoying? Or there is some option which I don't know, to make the OS work properly as I want. Here is an instruction for renaming lowercase letters to uppercase letters (or vice versa) in Windows 7 (I'm not sure about others): To rename a -> A , you can't do it normally, just follow the following steps: 1. Rename a -> b (or c, d, or any other but a and A). 2. Rename b -> A 3. Enjoy. :laugh: Any idea?

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                          Thornik
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                          Win7 x86 - no any problem.

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                          • S supernorb

                            I've inadvertently discovered this when trying renaming my file from 'maledefault' to 'maleDefault' and I couldn't rename it. Just capitalize the letter d, I think there is no case-sensitive string comparison here and tried renaming 'maledefault' to a different one (anything except Maledefault, mAledefault, MAledefault,...) then renamed that one to 'maleDefault'. Wow, I had to rename it indirectly. Is that a little annoying? Or there is some option which I don't know, to make the OS work properly as I want. Here is an instruction for renaming lowercase letters to uppercase letters (or vice versa) in Windows 7 (I'm not sure about others): To rename a -> A , you can't do it normally, just follow the following steps: 1. Rename a -> b (or c, d, or any other but a and A). 2. Rename b -> A 3. Enjoy. :laugh: Any idea?

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                            Tomz_KV
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                            I did not encounter any issue with renaming. My version is win7 ultimate.

                            TOMZ_KV

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                            • S supernorb

                              I've inadvertently discovered this when trying renaming my file from 'maledefault' to 'maleDefault' and I couldn't rename it. Just capitalize the letter d, I think there is no case-sensitive string comparison here and tried renaming 'maledefault' to a different one (anything except Maledefault, mAledefault, MAledefault,...) then renamed that one to 'maleDefault'. Wow, I had to rename it indirectly. Is that a little annoying? Or there is some option which I don't know, to make the OS work properly as I want. Here is an instruction for renaming lowercase letters to uppercase letters (or vice versa) in Windows 7 (I'm not sure about others): To rename a -> A , you can't do it normally, just follow the following steps: 1. Rename a -> b (or c, d, or any other but a and A). 2. Rename b -> A 3. Enjoy. :laugh: Any idea?

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                              ProgmanEx
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                              test on Win8, no this bug.

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                              • S supernorb

                                I've inadvertently discovered this when trying renaming my file from 'maledefault' to 'maleDefault' and I couldn't rename it. Just capitalize the letter d, I think there is no case-sensitive string comparison here and tried renaming 'maledefault' to a different one (anything except Maledefault, mAledefault, MAledefault,...) then renamed that one to 'maleDefault'. Wow, I had to rename it indirectly. Is that a little annoying? Or there is some option which I don't know, to make the OS work properly as I want. Here is an instruction for renaming lowercase letters to uppercase letters (or vice versa) in Windows 7 (I'm not sure about others): To rename a -> A , you can't do it normally, just follow the following steps: 1. Rename a -> b (or c, d, or any other but a and A). 2. Rename b -> A 3. Enjoy. :laugh: Any idea?

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                                RafagaX
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                                It's not a bug it's a feature... in case you may have wrongly pressed the Shift or Caps Lock key... ;P

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                                • S supernorb

                                  I've inadvertently discovered this when trying renaming my file from 'maledefault' to 'maleDefault' and I couldn't rename it. Just capitalize the letter d, I think there is no case-sensitive string comparison here and tried renaming 'maledefault' to a different one (anything except Maledefault, mAledefault, MAledefault,...) then renamed that one to 'maleDefault'. Wow, I had to rename it indirectly. Is that a little annoying? Or there is some option which I don't know, to make the OS work properly as I want. Here is an instruction for renaming lowercase letters to uppercase letters (or vice versa) in Windows 7 (I'm not sure about others): To rename a -> A , you can't do it normally, just follow the following steps: 1. Rename a -> b (or c, d, or any other but a and A). 2. Rename b -> A 3. Enjoy. :laugh: Any idea?

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                                  patbob
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                                  When I was a kid, we had to make all our file names in upper case, and that's the way we liked it! :) This "feature" was brought to you by the wonders of legacy compatability. DOS only did upper case in the beginning. Then later, lower case was allowed, and at that point it was decided to not confuse users too much by allowing case to matter in file names. Today... Unix, on the other hand, was case sensitive from day one.

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                                    When I was a kid, we had to make all our file names in upper case, and that's the way we liked it! :) This "feature" was brought to you by the wonders of legacy compatability. DOS only did upper case in the beginning. Then later, lower case was allowed, and at that point it was decided to not confuse users too much by allowing case to matter in file names. Today... Unix, on the other hand, was case sensitive from day one.

                                    We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.

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                                    Bruce Patin
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                                    I had to teach people coding in a language (REXX) where lower case had become acceptable and advisable for legibility, and suggested to my students that they should use the small letters, because they used less storage space than the large letters. ;-)

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                                    • D dusty_dex

                                      No, it's not a bug. Windows doesn't (didn't) differentiate upper-case and lower-case names. It can be enabled in the registry. Has something to do with POSIX compliance as I recall. HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\kernel\ Value Name: ObCaseInsensitive Type: DWORD Value: 0 There's also a bug when installing/uninstalling .Net framework 2.0 which affect case insensitivity setting.

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                                      jibalt
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                                      Whoosh! Yes, we know that Windows is case-insensitive, but that's not the point here.

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                                        Whoosh! Yes, we know that Windows is case-insensitive, but that's not the point here.

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                                        dusty_dex
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                                        The OP wasn't aware of this when it was originally posted. So since then he's modified his message, which makes my original reply look redundant.

                                        "It's true that hard work never killed anyone. But I figure, why take the chance." - Ronald Reagan That's what machines are for. Got a problem? Sleep on it.

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                                        • S supernorb

                                          I've inadvertently discovered this when trying renaming my file from 'maledefault' to 'maleDefault' and I couldn't rename it. Just capitalize the letter d, I think there is no case-sensitive string comparison here and tried renaming 'maledefault' to a different one (anything except Maledefault, mAledefault, MAledefault,...) then renamed that one to 'maleDefault'. Wow, I had to rename it indirectly. Is that a little annoying? Or there is some option which I don't know, to make the OS work properly as I want. Here is an instruction for renaming lowercase letters to uppercase letters (or vice versa) in Windows 7 (I'm not sure about others): To rename a -> A , you can't do it normally, just follow the following steps: 1. Rename a -> b (or c, d, or any other but a and A). 2. Rename b -> A 3. Enjoy. :laugh: Any idea?

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                                          Member 4608898
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                                          It has been like that since the Windows 95 days

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