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  • K Keith Barrow

    We really are two peoples separated by a common language. The sentences are perfectly fine, but without context this is a surrealist masterpiece. What do you mean by: a) got her letters? b) Pins? c) Why the need for a jacket? d) athletic banquet but no food? At least the kids had a good time. [edit] Re-read, this isn't meant sarcastically (which it might sound like) I genuinely don't get the above.

    “Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
    “One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”

    Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)

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    Dave Calkins
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    Keith Barrow wrote:

    We really are two peoples separated by a common language.

    I don't understand the expressions in half the posts here some days, I guess due to that difference :)

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    • K Keith Barrow

      We really are two peoples separated by a common language. The sentences are perfectly fine, but without context this is a surrealist masterpiece. What do you mean by: a) got her letters? b) Pins? c) Why the need for a jacket? d) athletic banquet but no food? At least the kids had a good time. [edit] Re-read, this isn't meant sarcastically (which it might sound like) I genuinely don't get the above.

      “Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
      “One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”

      Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)

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      Testing 1 2 uh 7
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      Okay, I'll give this a try, but it might be easier out of order.

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      c) Why the need for a jacket?

      Something of an American (okay, USian) tradition is what's known as the Letter Jacket. It's a jacket in the school colors (of whatever institution is being attended).

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      a) got her letters?

      If you participate in an official organized activity (usually sports, but some places also have academic letters for debate club and the like) you get a larger 'letter' (which may or may not be only one letter) to have sewn onto the front of the jacket.

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      b) Pins?

      As the jacket only has room for one letter, you also get pins for each sport (or other activity) that would earn you a letter. Sometimes, there are also pins for specific accomplishments, like not embarassing yourself too badly or actually winning something.

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      d) athletic banquet but no food?

      I hated this perversion of the langauge too, but I suspect they mean an end-of-season award ceremoney where the team and parents get together somewhere to celebrate the team's accomplishments and/or the end of a miserable season. Usually a good time for the kids to relax, but it tends to cost the parents extra money to sit and listen to the coach talk about stuff that doesn't matter much anymore. In my experience, the presence of food at these banquets was about 50/50. Hope that helps.

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      • K Keith Barrow

        We really are two peoples separated by a common language. The sentences are perfectly fine, but without context this is a surrealist masterpiece. What do you mean by: a) got her letters? b) Pins? c) Why the need for a jacket? d) athletic banquet but no food? At least the kids had a good time. [edit] Re-read, this isn't meant sarcastically (which it might sound like) I genuinely don't get the above.

        “Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
        “One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”

        Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)

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        loctrice
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        a) It's a thing that schools used to do (not so common these days). This is why the american stereotype of a jock is wearing a school jacket with a letter (or letters) on the back of it. At the end of the year, if you participated in sports, you get a letter (or letters) at the ceremony b)Students also typically get a pin for each sport/activity they are in. This also is supposed to go on the jacket. c)The swag goes on the jacket d)This wasn't a language difference, this was just stupid. It's supposed to have food, and no one knew they wouldn't have any until we got there.

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        • L Lost User

          I'm with Keith on this, all perfectly common English words but I don't understand most of what you have written. For example what's an athletic banquet when it's at home (or out)?

          Use the best guess

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          loctrice
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          I responded to his questions, have a read up there

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          • L loctrice

            a) It's a thing that schools used to do (not so common these days). This is why the american stereotype of a jock is wearing a school jacket with a letter (or letters) on the back of it. At the end of the year, if you participated in sports, you get a letter (or letters) at the ceremony b)Students also typically get a pin for each sport/activity they are in. This also is supposed to go on the jacket. c)The swag goes on the jacket d)This wasn't a language difference, this was just stupid. It's supposed to have food, and no one knew they wouldn't have any until we got there.

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            Testing 1 2 uh 7
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            Aww, I took too long typing my explanation, and now I just look silly. Like school all over again. :((

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              loctrice wrote:

              given the money it costs to have your children there

              Am I to assume that this means private school? if so, then you know the bean counters were in charge of the celebrations, not somebody with sense.

              Treat stressful situations like a dog, if you can't eat it, play with it or screw it, then just piss on it and walk away. Be careful which toes you step on today, they might be connected to the foot that kicks your butt tomorrow.

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              loctrice
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              Yes, private school. I thought it was odd when I found out the athletic director was extremely overweight. Not much at that school makes sense I suppose.

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              • T Testing 1 2 uh 7

                Okay, I'll give this a try, but it might be easier out of order.

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                c) Why the need for a jacket?

                Something of an American (okay, USian) tradition is what's known as the Letter Jacket. It's a jacket in the school colors (of whatever institution is being attended).

                Quote:

                a) got her letters?

                If you participate in an official organized activity (usually sports, but some places also have academic letters for debate club and the like) you get a larger 'letter' (which may or may not be only one letter) to have sewn onto the front of the jacket.

                Quote:

                b) Pins?

                As the jacket only has room for one letter, you also get pins for each sport (or other activity) that would earn you a letter. Sometimes, there are also pins for specific accomplishments, like not embarassing yourself too badly or actually winning something.

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                d) athletic banquet but no food?

                I hated this perversion of the langauge too, but I suspect they mean an end-of-season award ceremoney where the team and parents get together somewhere to celebrate the team's accomplishments and/or the end of a miserable season. Usually a good time for the kids to relax, but it tends to cost the parents extra money to sit and listen to the coach talk about stuff that doesn't matter much anymore. In my experience, the presence of food at these banquets was about 50/50. Hope that helps.

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                loctrice
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                good explanations. I think you did better than I did at it.

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                • L loctrice

                  a) It's a thing that schools used to do (not so common these days). This is why the american stereotype of a jock is wearing a school jacket with a letter (or letters) on the back of it. At the end of the year, if you participated in sports, you get a letter (or letters) at the ceremony b)Students also typically get a pin for each sport/activity they are in. This also is supposed to go on the jacket. c)The swag goes on the jacket d)This wasn't a language difference, this was just stupid. It's supposed to have food, and no one knew they wouldn't have any until we got there.

                  If it moves, compile it

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                  Keith Barrow
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                  loctrice wrote:

                  It's a thing that schools used to do (not so common these days). This is why the american stereotype of a jock is wearing a school jacket with a letter (or letters) on the back of it. At the end of the year, if you participated in sports, you get a letter (or letters) at the ceremony

                  Ahh a bit like getting school/college/university "colours". We had the same thing, but you got a special tie you could wear normally presented at a dinner. No equivalent to getting a pin, sometimes the ties differ between sports. I don't remember what the girls teams did.

                  “Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
                  “One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”

                  Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)

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                  • K Keith Barrow

                    loctrice wrote:

                    It's a thing that schools used to do (not so common these days). This is why the american stereotype of a jock is wearing a school jacket with a letter (or letters) on the back of it. At the end of the year, if you participated in sports, you get a letter (or letters) at the ceremony

                    Ahh a bit like getting school/college/university "colours". We had the same thing, but you got a special tie you could wear normally presented at a dinner. No equivalent to getting a pin, sometimes the ties differ between sports. I don't remember what the girls teams did.

                    “Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
                    “One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”

                    Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)

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                    loctrice
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                    Keith Barrow wrote:

                    I don't remember what the girls teams did.

                    for some reason this made me choke down laughter?

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                    • L loctrice

                      Yes, private school. I thought it was odd when I found out the athletic director was extremely overweight. Not much at that school makes sense I suppose.

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                      gavindon
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                      damnit, I was taking a drink of my Soda when I read that. Now I have to clean my screen.

                      Treat stressful situations like a dog, if you can't eat it, play with it or screw it, then just piss on it and walk away. Be careful which toes you step on today, they might be connected to the foot that kicks your butt tomorrow.

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                      • K Keith Barrow

                        loctrice wrote:

                        It's a thing that schools used to do (not so common these days). This is why the american stereotype of a jock is wearing a school jacket with a letter (or letters) on the back of it. At the end of the year, if you participated in sports, you get a letter (or letters) at the ceremony

                        Ahh a bit like getting school/college/university "colours". We had the same thing, but you got a special tie you could wear normally presented at a dinner. No equivalent to getting a pin, sometimes the ties differ between sports. I don't remember what the girls teams did.

                        “Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
                        “One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated”

                        Sir Thomas More (1478 – 1535)

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                        Keith Barrow wrote:

                        I don't remember what the girls teams did.

                        The boys teams?

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                        • L loctrice

                          a) It's a thing that schools used to do (not so common these days). This is why the american stereotype of a jock is wearing a school jacket with a letter (or letters) on the back of it. At the end of the year, if you participated in sports, you get a letter (or letters) at the ceremony b)Students also typically get a pin for each sport/activity they are in. This also is supposed to go on the jacket. c)The swag goes on the jacket d)This wasn't a language difference, this was just stupid. It's supposed to have food, and no one knew they wouldn't have any until we got there.

                          If it moves, compile it

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                          loctrice wrote:

                          a) It's a thing that schools used to do (not so common these days). This is why the american stereotype of a jock is wearing a school jacket with a letter (or letters) on the back of it. At the end of the year, if you participated in sports, you get a letter (or letters) at the ceremony...

                          And a likewise infrequently used term for such a person is "A Letterman". There were a lot of references to Lettermen and Lettermen's jackets up to about the 1970s. I don't think many schools use the term any more. There were numerous (musical) bands, songs, poetry and common expressions about Lettermen up to a few decades ago.

                          -- Harvey

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                          • L loctrice

                            a) It's a thing that schools used to do (not so common these days). This is why the american stereotype of a jock is wearing a school jacket with a letter (or letters) on the back of it. At the end of the year, if you participated in sports, you get a letter (or letters) at the ceremony b)Students also typically get a pin for each sport/activity they are in. This also is supposed to go on the jacket. c)The swag goes on the jacket d)This wasn't a language difference, this was just stupid. It's supposed to have food, and no one knew they wouldn't have any until we got there.

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                            Roger Wright
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                            To provide food, they probably would have wanted even more money from the parents. :-D These sports programs have become a plague. When I was actively involved in charitable organizations in my area, we were constantly being hit for donations to send a kid (or a team) to play ball in another area or state, and nobody wants to deny a kid such an experience... don't get me wrong. But our purpose was to help kids right here in our town who had no food, no schoolbooks, no shoes. Too many members gave in to these constant extortionate demands for more money, and the clubs lost sight of their true purpose. A funny thing happened - those clubs have stopped doing fund raisers, hosting events for real kids with real needs, and membership has fallen dramatically, along with donations collected. With no real meaningful purpose other than to send a few privileged kids to far away sports events, most people lost that warm, fuzzy feeling one gets when hard volunteer works lead to real contributions to improve young lives. It's great that you are able to give your kids such experiences, and maybe more kids got to participate because the programs didn't squander any funds on feeding you! :-D

                            Will Rogers never met me.

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