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http://www.theblessingsofliberty.com/articles/article23.html[^] -c
Be very, very careful what you put into that head, because you will never, ever get it out. --Thomas Cardinal Wolsey
Thanks for posting the source.
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This was being passed around another board. It was *apparently* published in a British newspaper. I couldn't verify the source, but the article was well written. ------ ONE year ago, the world witnessed a unique kind of broadcasting - the mass murder of thousands, live on television. As a lesson in the pitiless cruelty of the human race, September 11 was up there with Pol Pot's mountain of skulls in Cambodia, or the skeletal bodies stacked like garbage in the Nazi concentration camps. An unspeakable act so cruel, so calculated and so utterly merciless that surely the world could agree on one thing - nobody deserves this fate. Surely there could be consensus: the victims were truly innocent, the perpetrators truly evil. But to the world's eternal shame, 9/11 is increasingly seen as America's comeuppance. Incredibly, anti-Americanism has increased over the last year. There has always been a simmering resentment to the USA in this country - too loud, too rich, too full of themselves and so much happier than Europeans - but it has become an epidemic. And it seems incredible to me. More than that, it turns my stomach. America is this country's greatest friend and our staunchest ally. We are bonded to the US by culture, language and blood. A little over half a century ago, around half a million Americans died for our freedoms, as well as their own. Have we forgotten so soon? And exactly a year ago, thousands of ordinary men, women and children - not just Americans, but from dozens of countries - were butchered by a small group of religious fanatics. Are we so quick to betray them? What touched the heart about those who died in the twin towers and on the planes was that we recognised them. Young fathers and mothers, somebody's son and somebody's daughter, husbands and wives. And children. Some unborn. And these people brought it on themselves? And their nation is to blame for their meticulously planned slaughter? These days you don't have to be some dust-encrusted nut job in Kabul or Karachi or Finsbury Park to see America as the Great Satan. The anti-American alliance is made up of self-loathing liberals who blame the Americans for every ill in the Third World, and conservatives suffering from power-envy, bitter that the world's only superpower can do what it likes without having to ask permission. The truth is that America has behaved with enormous restraint since September 11. Remember, remember. Remember the gut-wrenching tapes of wee
Putting at the same level the 9/11 and the Holocaust seems to me a little bit surrealist. The author spits his hatred as others spit their venom, and uses it to justify war crimes and non-respect of Human Rights. I don't see the difference between his speech and the ones of the radical islamist hatred mongers.
Angels banished from heaven have no choice but to become demons Cowboy Bebop
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i'm sure glad Rumsfeld is on our side... :~ -c
Be very, very careful what you put into that head, because you will never, ever get it out. --Thomas Cardinal Wolsey
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Political statements are acceptable, but posting an article that might be inflamatory with no reference will eventually dribble into useless discussions and pointless debates. Max.
Inflamatory??!! Who gives a rats a$$! :mad: There is way too much political correctness being handed down here at CP the way it is. The guy saw an article he liked so he posted it. If you don't like it, ignore it.
Jason Henderson
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It does not have the 'feel' of a British article , some of the language used seems to be from an American source . Can you tell us where you obtained the 'article' . I am in favour of military action in Iraq , but I am constantly frightened by the introspective view that underlies a lot of US 'news' . Much of the news coverage I see seems to be 10% news and 90 % comment . And what comment there is seems to be very much dumbed down .This 'article' seems typical of the sort of comments I see all the time . It has no analysis it simply attempts to tug at the emotions. You cannot understand a subject if you stay only at the level of your emotions . The opposition has emotions too , and they hold theirs as deeply as you hold yours . But if you analyse the opposition , if you understand why they do what they do then surely you will be in a better position to defeat them ? Otherwise the only solution can be to beat them into place , and that will not work in the long term. Am I the only one forever playing catch up with technology , while all the juicy opportunites keep rolling by ?
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I stopped reading when I read this rubbish: "And realize that America has never retaliated for 9/11 in anything like the way it could have. So a few al-Qaeda tourists got locked without a trial in Camp X-ray? Pass the Kleenex... So some Afghan wedding receptions were shot up after they merrily fired their semi-automatics in a sky full of American planes? A shame, but maybe next time they should stick to confetti." That is uncalled for, totally pathetic to resort to that. So he reckons the only way we would be justified in our ranting about America is if they nuked half the planet? Actually, he lost me when I go to the "remember blah blah" crap. Anti-American does not automatically mean Pro-9/11. He has some valid points in the begining of course.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
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You probably wouldn't understand unless it happened to SA, but it was one of the scariest days of my life and I wanted heads to roll. I think most Americans wanted to nuke somebody that day. Thank goodness cooler heads prevailed.
Jason Henderson
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Putting at the same level the 9/11 and the Holocaust seems to me a little bit surrealist. The author spits his hatred as others spit their venom, and uses it to justify war crimes and non-respect of Human Rights. I don't see the difference between his speech and the ones of the radical islamist hatred mongers.
Angels banished from heaven have no choice but to become demons Cowboy Bebop
Kaßl wrote: Putting at the same level the 9/11 and the Holocaust seems to me a little bit surrealist. You're right KArl. As horrible as the event was, It still does not compare to the torture of millions of innocent during WWII, bombing of Dresden, Nanking, etc.... Certainly every death is tragic, but there is a perspective to maintain. BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security
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Kaßl wrote: Putting at the same level the 9/11 and the Holocaust seems to me a little bit surrealist. You're right KArl. As horrible as the event was, It still does not compare to the torture of millions of innocent during WWII, bombing of Dresden, Nanking, etc.... Certainly every death is tragic, but there is a perspective to maintain. BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security
I would even put the genocides (Jewish, Tzigane, Slavic (may be discussed), Armenian during WW1, Rwanda recently...) in a separate chapter of the too big book of human atrocities. Your quote is a beautiful example of political cants. So sad it's the same worldwide :(
Angels banished from heaven have no choice but to become demons Cowboy Bebop
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and... um what does Iraq have to do with 9/11? -c
Be very, very careful what you put into that head, because you will never, ever get it out. --Thomas Cardinal Wolsey
Well, lets see. You've got an out of control lunatic unwilling to explain the whereabouts of tons of deadly chemical and biological weapons in a region of the world overrun with insane, suicidal religious zealots. All of whom hate us for no rational reason what so ever and wish nothing more than the death and destruction of as many Americans and Jews as possible. Waiting for proof of a connection sounds like a real good ideal. "Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art." Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle
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Well, lets see. You've got an out of control lunatic unwilling to explain the whereabouts of tons of deadly chemical and biological weapons in a region of the world overrun with insane, suicidal religious zealots. All of whom hate us for no rational reason what so ever and wish nothing more than the death and destruction of as many Americans and Jews as possible. Waiting for proof of a connection sounds like a real good ideal. "Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art." Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle
Waiting for proof of a connection sounds like a real good ideal
that's just plain insanity. you can implicate anyone, with that logic. -c
Be very, very careful what you put into that head, because you will never, ever get it out. --Thomas Cardinal Wolsey
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You probably wouldn't understand unless it happened to SA, but it was one of the scariest days of my life and I wanted heads to roll. I think most Americans wanted to nuke somebody that day. Thank goodness cooler heads prevailed.
Jason Henderson
"You must be the change you wish to see in the world." - Gandhi -
This was being passed around another board. It was *apparently* published in a British newspaper. I couldn't verify the source, but the article was well written. ------ ONE year ago, the world witnessed a unique kind of broadcasting - the mass murder of thousands, live on television. As a lesson in the pitiless cruelty of the human race, September 11 was up there with Pol Pot's mountain of skulls in Cambodia, or the skeletal bodies stacked like garbage in the Nazi concentration camps. An unspeakable act so cruel, so calculated and so utterly merciless that surely the world could agree on one thing - nobody deserves this fate. Surely there could be consensus: the victims were truly innocent, the perpetrators truly evil. But to the world's eternal shame, 9/11 is increasingly seen as America's comeuppance. Incredibly, anti-Americanism has increased over the last year. There has always been a simmering resentment to the USA in this country - too loud, too rich, too full of themselves and so much happier than Europeans - but it has become an epidemic. And it seems incredible to me. More than that, it turns my stomach. America is this country's greatest friend and our staunchest ally. We are bonded to the US by culture, language and blood. A little over half a century ago, around half a million Americans died for our freedoms, as well as their own. Have we forgotten so soon? And exactly a year ago, thousands of ordinary men, women and children - not just Americans, but from dozens of countries - were butchered by a small group of religious fanatics. Are we so quick to betray them? What touched the heart about those who died in the twin towers and on the planes was that we recognised them. Young fathers and mothers, somebody's son and somebody's daughter, husbands and wives. And children. Some unborn. And these people brought it on themselves? And their nation is to blame for their meticulously planned slaughter? These days you don't have to be some dust-encrusted nut job in Kabul or Karachi or Finsbury Park to see America as the Great Satan. The anti-American alliance is made up of self-loathing liberals who blame the Americans for every ill in the Third World, and conservatives suffering from power-envy, bitter that the world's only superpower can do what it likes without having to ask permission. The truth is that America has behaved with enormous restraint since September 11. Remember, remember. Remember the gut-wrenching tapes of wee
One part I have never understood... anti-Americanism. Or anti-Anyoneism for that matter. It just doesn't happen - I haven't met a single person who honestly has anything but respect for people of other countries. Is this just because I live in the sticks and it is a problem in some of the cities where these types of reports are written? There must be some truth behind it or it wouldn't keep getting brought up. Regarding the article, I agree with Andrew in part - it doesn't have the feel, flow or content of any real newspaper article I've read in this country. But no, wait! It was written by Tony Parsons of the Mirror -- I take back that comment about it being a newspaper article. ;P Parsons likes to write about what supports his views on any given situation (and he seems to write about most of them), which pretty much sums up the rag he is printed in. Jack of all trades and all that. It is enough to be sad, but not in a tear jerking sense. The Mirror is best read with another source to provide the recomended daily salt intake, unless you just need some toilet paper and you don't have a copy of the Sun handy. To call 11/9 "one of the greatest atrocities in human history" is ridiculous - by that logic the greatest tragedy was the day our ancestors came out of the trees. In ten years time the rest of the world will go "The ninth of what? Oh, you mean September", and I can't say I'd argue with them either. Remember, sure, don't dwell (and for goodness sake please don't let your never sleeping city get ruined by either of those monstrocities they want to build on the former WTC site).
David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk
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Waiting for proof of a connection sounds like a real good ideal
that's just plain insanity. you can implicate anyone, with that logic. -c
Be very, very careful what you put into that head, because you will never, ever get it out. --Thomas Cardinal Wolsey
Chris Losinger wrote: you can implicate anyone, with that logic. Such as who? Pretty much narrows it down to one one guy from my perspective. "Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art." Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle
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http://www.theblessingsofliberty.com/articles/article23.html[^] -c
Be very, very careful what you put into that head, because you will never, ever get it out. --Thomas Cardinal Wolsey
I stand corrected .It was a British source then . My comments on the standard of the writing hold though . Having thought about it , it is probably about the level of the British tabloid comics . Having said that , this guy represents the very worst of British journalism . He is a self opinionated pr@£k who never does anything but vent his spleen on whatever subject he covers. He never analysis , he never considers counter arguments , he is to journalism what taxi drivers are to politics. Now that we have given the Spanish the rights to all our fish , they destroyed their own stocks years ago , he represents the entire British trawler fleet .