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    c2423
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    So, the deal I made when moving to my current co was that I wanted X. They weren't prepared to pay X, so offered X-Y*, raising to X after a satisfactory 3 month probation period. All of this was negotiated via an agent - I think you can see where this is going... After glowing performance reviews, my employer deny having these conversations with the agent. The agent has not written anything down, but insists that the conversations did take place. Anybody got any thoughts or opinions** on the matter? * Y is a reasonable amount of money, not life changing. ** "Agents are evil" or any variant thereof is not a helpful opinion, given that we all already know it. *** In the UK, so US laws don't apply. Also, where did you find 3 asterisks in the main text?

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      So, the deal I made when moving to my current co was that I wanted X. They weren't prepared to pay X, so offered X-Y*, raising to X after a satisfactory 3 month probation period. All of this was negotiated via an agent - I think you can see where this is going... After glowing performance reviews, my employer deny having these conversations with the agent. The agent has not written anything down, but insists that the conversations did take place. Anybody got any thoughts or opinions** on the matter? * Y is a reasonable amount of money, not life changing. ** "Agents are evil" or any variant thereof is not a helpful opinion, given that we all already know it. *** In the UK, so US laws don't apply. Also, where did you find 3 asterisks in the main text?

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      R Giskard Reventlov
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      The agent is an idiot for not confirming it (you are also culpable here - you should have ensured it was written into your contract prior to signing). The employer is also being an arse and not showing you any respect. I would look for a new contract ASAP - why would you want to work for a liar? Alternatively, tell the agent the difference has to come out of their slice of the pie.

      "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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        The agent is an idiot for not confirming it (you are also culpable here - you should have ensured it was written into your contract prior to signing). The employer is also being an arse and not showing you any respect. I would look for a new contract ASAP - why would you want to work for a liar? Alternatively, tell the agent the difference has to come out of their slice of the pie.

        "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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        mark merrens wrote:

        The agent is an idiot for not confirming it

        True

        mark merrens wrote:

        you are also culpable here - you should have ensured it was written into your contract prior to signing

        True - I assumed it was in writing already so that would be ok.

        mark merrens wrote:

        The employer is also being an arse and not showing you any respect.

        I'm inclined to believe that they didn't agree it actually, but I can't be 100% sure. Agents tend to lie a lot.

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          So, the deal I made when moving to my current co was that I wanted X. They weren't prepared to pay X, so offered X-Y*, raising to X after a satisfactory 3 month probation period. All of this was negotiated via an agent - I think you can see where this is going... After glowing performance reviews, my employer deny having these conversations with the agent. The agent has not written anything down, but insists that the conversations did take place. Anybody got any thoughts or opinions** on the matter? * Y is a reasonable amount of money, not life changing. ** "Agents are evil" or any variant thereof is not a helpful opinion, given that we all already know it. *** In the UK, so US laws don't apply. Also, where did you find 3 asterisks in the main text?

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          The agent didn't get the deal in writing? I now have a red mark on my forehead from a series of painful face/palms.

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            mark merrens wrote:

            The agent is an idiot for not confirming it

            True

            mark merrens wrote:

            you are also culpable here - you should have ensured it was written into your contract prior to signing

            True - I assumed it was in writing already so that would be ok.

            mark merrens wrote:

            The employer is also being an arse and not showing you any respect.

            I'm inclined to believe that they didn't agree it actually, but I can't be 100% sure. Agents tend to lie a lot.

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            R Giskard Reventlov
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            Then you should insist that agent pays the difference and should inform the employer if they say no. Most employers will not want to deal with agencies that are screwing over the employee.

            "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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              So, the deal I made when moving to my current co was that I wanted X. They weren't prepared to pay X, so offered X-Y*, raising to X after a satisfactory 3 month probation period. All of this was negotiated via an agent - I think you can see where this is going... After glowing performance reviews, my employer deny having these conversations with the agent. The agent has not written anything down, but insists that the conversations did take place. Anybody got any thoughts or opinions** on the matter? * Y is a reasonable amount of money, not life changing. ** "Agents are evil" or any variant thereof is not a helpful opinion, given that we all already know it. *** In the UK, so US laws don't apply. Also, where did you find 3 asterisks in the main text?

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              AspDotNetDev
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              Any way you can get the two of them in the same room / conference call so you can hear them lie in front of one another? It's hard to blame the "other guy" when the other guy is right there.

              Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                The agent didn't get the deal in writing? I now have a red mark on my forehead from a series of painful face/palms.

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                c2423
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                My bad for assuming that they did, but no, apparently they didn't think about it.

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                  Then you should insist that agent pays the difference and should inform the employer if they say no. Most employers will not want to deal with agencies that are screwing over the employee.

                  "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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                  c2423
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                  Worth a try, thanks :)

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                    Any way you can get the two of them in the same room / conference call so you can hear them lie in front of one another? It's hard to blame the "other guy" when the other guy is right there.

                    Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                    Alas, not that easy. Even if it were, it's their word against HR.

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                      Alas, not that easy. Even if it were, it's their word against HR.

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                      You're gonna need a bigger boat room.

                      Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                        So, the deal I made when moving to my current co was that I wanted X. They weren't prepared to pay X, so offered X-Y*, raising to X after a satisfactory 3 month probation period. All of this was negotiated via an agent - I think you can see where this is going... After glowing performance reviews, my employer deny having these conversations with the agent. The agent has not written anything down, but insists that the conversations did take place. Anybody got any thoughts or opinions** on the matter? * Y is a reasonable amount of money, not life changing. ** "Agents are evil" or any variant thereof is not a helpful opinion, given that we all already know it. *** In the UK, so US laws don't apply. Also, where did you find 3 asterisks in the main text?

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                        Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                        Quit.

                        Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. "And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs" -- Robert Frost "All users always want Excel" --Ennis Lynch

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