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  • N Nagy Vilmos

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    Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol

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    Yah, aber was ich hap geseged es niet zo lang!

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      Frankly given the way they treat their verbs, they don't deserve to have any

      There is actually one good thing about putting verbs at the end of the sentence the way german do. As listeners can't really get the meaning/intent of the speaker before the sentence is finished then speakers are usually not interrupted.

      Seulement, dans certains cas, n'est-ce pas, on n'entend guère que ce qu'on désire entendre et ce qui vous arrange le mieux... [^] Joe never complained of anything but ever did his duty in his way of life, with a strong hand, a quiet tongue, and a gentle heart [^]

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      With the examples given I think the German way is much easier to predict before the end of the sentence. " I must go to ......" - Could be going anywhere. " I must to work....." - Can only be 'go' surely?

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        1. scottish sounds a lot like german... for the english anyway (no offense, my mother in law is from scotland)

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        Kirk for Church, Ken for Know... Scots has a lot of the Old Saxon in it still.

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          Dalek Dave wrote:

          Frankly given the way they treat their verbs, they don't deserve to have any

          There is actually one good thing about putting verbs at the end of the sentence the way german do. As listeners can't really get the meaning/intent of the speaker before the sentence is finished then speakers are usually not interrupted.

          Seulement, dans certains cas, n'est-ce pas, on n'entend guère que ce qu'on désire entendre et ce qui vous arrange le mieux... [^] Joe never complained of anything but ever did his duty in his way of life, with a strong hand, a quiet tongue, and a gentle heart [^]

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          That is a good point. Explains the French then!

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            Hey look, I am not disagreeing with you, but what I posted was an instant guide to turning English into some kind of at least workable German so one can communicate at a basic level. (And yeah,, for the getronk I fell back on Nederlands, I couldnt be arsed to look it up, Anyway, at least as an example of the vowel sound change you verified what I wrote. :) )

            CDP1802 wrote:

            Finally. Thanks, even if it resembles Dutch a little more :)

            I lived in Vlanderen for many years and picked up a lot of Flemish so it isnt surprising if it does. :)

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            A time ago I found a discussion where someone from England had postet a soundfile in a forum to prove that German is a harsh and ugly language. One of the responses: That's only because you speak it like a Klingon :)

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              Eh, ta geule connard! :P

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              I am not sure how familiar you are with french but what you've just written there is just too rude! It is absolutely unpolite and the smiley at the end does not make it acceptable. You can use the word "connard" under 2 conditions: 1. you are speaking about an undetermined person ( eg: guys who are doing this are real "connards" ) but that is not funny and mean you have really something against them. 2. you are ready to have a fight right after saying it. But let's dicuss that outside if you dare!!

              Seulement, dans certains cas, n'est-ce pas, on n'entend guère que ce qu'on désire entendre et ce qui vous arrange le mieux... [^] Joe never complained of anything but ever did his duty in his way of life, with a strong hand, a quiet tongue, and a gentle heart [^]

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                1. Simple English Speaken. 2) All undeclined doing-word -en add and at de end of de sentence adden. 3) All 'th' sounds to a 'd' maken. Also 'de' for 'the', 'dis' for 'this' -en. 4) some odds and ends of usefull vocabulary for words that arent almost de same in English learnen 5) Learn a few rules, 'w' sounds like 'v'. 'z' like 't', 's' like 'z'. 6) De pronouns Learnen : Ich, Sie, er, es, wir. 7) To a verb into de past tense put adden ge- to de start and normally de ending to a kind of d/t sound changen. 8) De Scots 'ken' for 'know' usen. Still better than the whole of my pre-GCSE German output. Wanted to take it up to GCSE, but the school forced you to learn French if you only wanted to take one foreign language. I remember my teacher saying this was mad as "Its much easier to pronounce German than French if you are from Newcastle". Take two languages and you had to drop a science topic, so I ended up not taking any. To this day I still don't speak a foreign language properly, the best stab I can have is Arabic, and that at the level of sleeping infant.

                “Education is not the piling on of learning, information, data, facts, skills, or abilities - that's training or instruction - but is rather making visible what is hidden as a seed”
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                Keith Barrow wrote:

                the best stab I can have is Arabic, and that at the level of sleeping infant.

                Sleeping Infant the Sioux Chief? I didn't realise he spoke arabic.

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                  I am not sure how familiar you are with french but what you've just written there is just too rude! It is absolutely unpolite and the smiley at the end does not make it acceptable. You can use the word "connard" under 2 conditions: 1. you are speaking about an undetermined person ( eg: guys who are doing this are real "connards" ) but that is not funny and mean you have really something against them. 2. you are ready to have a fight right after saying it. But let's dicuss that outside if you dare!!

                  Seulement, dans certains cas, n'est-ce pas, on n'entend guère que ce qu'on désire entendre et ce qui vous arrange le mieux... [^] Joe never complained of anything but ever did his duty in his way of life, with a strong hand, a quiet tongue, and a gentle heart [^]

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                  T'inquiet pas, je sais que j'ai ecrit qqc tres gros, mais c'est que pour se rigoler un peu. It is the kind of thing you say amongst friends, and since you ribed me a bit I ribed you back. :)

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                    With the examples given I think the German way is much easier to predict before the end of the sentence. " I must go to ......" - Could be going anywhere. " I must to work....." - Can only be 'go' surely?

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                    PB 369,782 wrote:

                    Can only be 'go' surely?

                    Crawl? Fly? Sneak? Or simply the word 'not': Zur Arbeit muss ich (heute) nicht. No 'go' in there at all, it's assumed implicitly.

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                    • N Nagy Vilmos

                      Free German Course[^]

                      Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol

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                      So, that marks the end of all confusions....:thumbsup:

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                        A time ago I found a discussion where someone from England had postet a soundfile in a forum to prove that German is a harsh and ugly language. One of the responses: That's only because you speak it like a Klingon :)

                        Sent from my BatComputer via HAL 9000 and M5

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                        IMO Dutch is the harshest of languages, it sounds like a 40 a day smoker clearing his throat, every third word. German is quite pleasant by comparison.

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                          Kirk for Church, Ken for Know... Scots has a lot of the Old Saxon in it still.

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                          Saxon?[^]

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                            IMO Dutch is the harshest of languages, it sounds like a 40 a day smoker clearing his throat, every third word. German is quite pleasant by comparison.

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                            And they have something against bakers by calling them 'warme bakkers'? Or are they really all gay, like the barbers here?

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                              Kirk for Church, Ken for Know... Scots has a lot of the Old Saxon in it still.

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                              aye lad... ;)

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                                True, and I see potential for more changes to make the language more logical: funken -> gefunkt -> gefonkt, tunken -> getunkt -> getonk

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                                CDP1802 wrote:

                                getonk

                                :laugh:

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                                  Saxon?[^]

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                                  I thought they were from Norwich? ;P

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                                    PB 369,782 wrote:

                                    Can only be 'go' surely?

                                    Crawl? Fly? Sneak? Or simply the word 'not': Zur Arbeit muss ich (heute) nicht. No 'go' in there at all, it's assumed implicitly.

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                                    Nobody has ever told me they are going to fly, sneak or crawl to work so I think I can safely guess 'go'.

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                                      1. scottish sounds a lot like german... for the english anyway (no offense, my mother in law is from scotland)

                                      (yes|no|maybe)*

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                                      Really? It doesn't particularly to me, 'ch' sound notwithstanding.

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                                        Nobody has ever told me they are going to fly, sneak or crawl to work so I think I can safely guess 'go'.

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                                        PB 369,782 wrote:

                                        Nobody has ever told me they are going to crawl to work

                                        Never had a lunch time drink in the UK then?

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                                          And they have something against bakers by calling them 'warme bakkers'? Or are they really all gay, like the barbers here?

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                                          And the say 'dui dui' when they leave! Just what is that supposed to mean?

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