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  • D dusty_dex

    treddie wrote:

    But I am still curious about my original question...Has someone found a way to turn text into code?

    66-666-##-11-22-88-8-##-999-666-88-##-222-2-66-##-4-33-88-##-7777-666-6-33-##-444-66-8-33-777-33-7777-8-444-66-4-##444-3-33-2-7777-11111 :-D

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    Lol! OK, Mr. Blechley Park! :)

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      treddie wrote:

      But I am curious now, if vb.Net has the ability to turn a string into a code statement, or maybe even multiline text into actual vb.Net code?

      There's various ways to compile code (from your app) and execute it. I don't think it'd be very helpful in finding a TreeNode though.

      treddie wrote:

      If I already have the full path to the correct folder, then I need a quick way to get to the node without having to search the entire tree.

      Start at the left of the folder-string. Find the item in the root-node. Open that node. Find the second part of the path in the current node's children. Repeat until the path is empty.

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      That is where the frustration is. There is no way to set any ARBITRARY node as a "current" node and start the search from there, in a Find() method. Although you can restrict the search to a node and none of its children, you can't programmatically start a search at any node without it being specific. There is no general statement for: = MyNodes(2).Nodes.Find("Hello", True) and = MyNodes(2).My1stChildNodes(3).Nodes.Find("Hello", True)

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        That is where the frustration is. There is no way to set any ARBITRARY node as a "current" node and start the search from there, in a Find() method. Although you can restrict the search to a node and none of its children, you can't programmatically start a search at any node without it being specific. There is no general statement for: = MyNodes(2).Nodes.Find("Hello", True) and = MyNodes(2).My1stChildNodes(3).Nodes.Find("Hello", True)

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        treddie wrote:

        There is no way to set any ARBITRARY node as a "current" node and start the search from there, in a Find() method

        Ano node contains a node-collection that can be searched. If you know what node to start from, that is.

        treddie wrote:

        There is no general statement for:

                TreeView1.Nodes.Add("Node1", "Node1").Nodes.Add("Sub1", "Sub1").Nodes.Add("Hello", "Hello")
                TreeView1.Nodes.Add("Node2", "Node2").Nodes.Add("Sub1", "Sub1").Nodes.Add("Hello", "Hello")
        
                Dim foundNode As TreeNode = TreeView1.Nodes("Node2").Nodes("Sub1") ' .Nodes("Hello")
        
                If foundNode IsNot Nothing Then
                    TreeView1.SelectedNode = foundNode
                    TreeView1.Focus()
                End If
        

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        • T treddie

          Lol! OK, Mr. Blechley Park! :)

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          dusty_dex
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          If you're curious about recursive functions/parsing/codifying information, perhaps you should read this book: Godel, Escher & Bach by Douglas E. Hofstadter. also, A New Kind of Science by Stephen Wolfram is pretty interesting too. :)

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          • T treddie

            Bummer. :( I'm so close to finishing a program I've been working on for a year and the only thing hanging me up is this damn TreeView problem. I just find it so bizarre that MS could not provide some very simple functionality to a TreeView, that I would think would be self-evidently obvious properties and methods to include straight-away. I come up with nifty solutions only to have them dashed by a lack of really basic control methods. So frustrating.

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            Dave Kreskowiak
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            Just because it's a "simple" method to make your job easier, doesn't mean it's a good thing to put into the framework. The .NET Framework is already too heavy. That's why it has been split into Full and Client Profile versions. Why put more stuff into it that's really not neccessary?

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              treddie wrote:

              There is no way to set any ARBITRARY node as a "current" node and start the search from there, in a Find() method

              Ano node contains a node-collection that can be searched. If you know what node to start from, that is.

              treddie wrote:

              There is no general statement for:

                      TreeView1.Nodes.Add("Node1", "Node1").Nodes.Add("Sub1", "Sub1").Nodes.Add("Hello", "Hello")
                      TreeView1.Nodes.Add("Node2", "Node2").Nodes.Add("Sub1", "Sub1").Nodes.Add("Hello", "Hello")
              
                      Dim foundNode As TreeNode = TreeView1.Nodes("Node2").Nodes("Sub1") ' .Nodes("Hello")
              
                      If foundNode IsNot Nothing Then
                          TreeView1.SelectedNode = foundNode
                          TreeView1.Focus()
                      End If
              

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              treddie
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              Eddy Vluggen wrote:

              Ano node contains a node-collection that can be searched. If you know what node to start from, that is.

              Eddy, is that a product?...The only thing I found was a site called "Ano Node", a freenet help site.

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              • D dusty_dex

                If you're curious about recursive functions/parsing/codifying information, perhaps you should read this book: Godel, Escher & Bach by Douglas E. Hofstadter. also, A New Kind of Science by Stephen Wolfram is pretty interesting too. :)

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                treddie
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                DoH! More book reading for my schedule! :) I'll have to look those up. Thanks!

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                • T treddie

                  DoH! More book reading for my schedule! :) I'll have to look those up. Thanks!

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                  Also take look at Emil Post's stuff on 'productions', circa 1930s. The authors initial was wrong, it's Douglas R. Hofstadter. I need better glasses. :) The NKS book is more along the lines of cellular automata. You might want to get the legs on your coffee table reinforced first. ;P

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                  • D Dave Kreskowiak

                    Just because it's a "simple" method to make your job easier, doesn't mean it's a good thing to put into the framework. The .NET Framework is already too heavy. That's why it has been split into Full and Client Profile versions. Why put more stuff into it that's really not neccessary?

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                    treddie
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                    Only because it has such far reaching and useful consequences. I doubt that .Net will cease to grow and get even more heavy, but this option would serve so many uses where recursion is not an option.

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                      Also take look at Emil Post's stuff on 'productions', circa 1930s. The authors initial was wrong, it's Douglas R. Hofstadter. I need better glasses. :) The NKS book is more along the lines of cellular automata. You might want to get the legs on your coffee table reinforced first. ;P

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                      treddie
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                      Heheh.

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                      • T treddie

                        Only because it has such far reaching and useful consequences. I doubt that .Net will cease to grow and get even more heavy, but this option would serve so many uses where recursion is not an option.

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                        Dave Kreskowiak
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                        Not so useful. Actually, pretty limiting in both security and performance. First, it's poor-performing code as it has to be compiled before use, at runtime. Access to variables might also have to be done through reflection as you REALLY don't want to run this code in the same AppDomain as the application code because of HUGE security problems with running user-enterable code in an app. Google for "SQL Injection attacks" for examples on how bad this is. The compile-time compiler also cannot possibly predict the contents of a string so it cannot pre-compile anything, wasting more time. You MIGHT get away with a caching scheme to improve performance a little bit, kind of like how strings are stored, but again, you'd have to be able to store the string with the compiled code so you have a quick lookup of the string version of the code as a key. Oh, and you also lose type-safety and Intellisense. If you think you need to do this in your application code, it's generally taken as a sign your code design is DEEPLY flawed.

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                          Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                          Ano node contains a node-collection that can be searched. If you know what node to start from, that is.

                          Eddy, is that a product?...The only thing I found was a site called "Ano Node", a freenet help site.

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                          That should have been "A node contains a Nodes collection...".

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                            Not so useful. Actually, pretty limiting in both security and performance. First, it's poor-performing code as it has to be compiled before use, at runtime. Access to variables might also have to be done through reflection as you REALLY don't want to run this code in the same AppDomain as the application code because of HUGE security problems with running user-enterable code in an app. Google for "SQL Injection attacks" for examples on how bad this is. The compile-time compiler also cannot possibly predict the contents of a string so it cannot pre-compile anything, wasting more time. You MIGHT get away with a caching scheme to improve performance a little bit, kind of like how strings are stored, but again, you'd have to be able to store the string with the compiled code so you have a quick lookup of the string version of the code as a key. Oh, and you also lose type-safety and Intellisense. If you think you need to do this in your application code, it's generally taken as a sign your code design is DEEPLY flawed.

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                            treddie
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                            Good points. So the emphasis is back to the limitations of the .Nodes() property. What a shame they did not set it up as, for example, TreeView1.Nodes(NodesArray(x)).SelectedNode. That would be a perfect road map for the Nodes property to follow, to get to a destination in the tree.

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                            • D Dave Kreskowiak

                              That should have been "A node contains a Nodes collection...".

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                              treddie
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                              Lol! Reminds me of the commercial where the guy is one question behind, due to buffering.

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                                Good points. So the emphasis is back to the limitations of the .Nodes() property. What a shame they did not set it up as, for example, TreeView1.Nodes(NodesArray(x)).SelectedNode. That would be a perfect road map for the Nodes property to follow, to get to a destination in the tree.

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                                Dave Kreskowiak
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                                That doesn't make sense either as you'd have to manually walk the tree to find the node that is selected. Not very efficient, is it?? The TreeView already has a SelectedNode property which will return the node that is selected. From there, it's trivial to navigate up to the Node tree to the root of the Nodes collection in the TreeView control. Getting back to your original search problem, you're going about it wrong. You're thinking about searching a tree structure that's not designed to be searched efficiently. What you should be doing is a dedicated indexing solution for a collection of paths, each of which contains a reference to the Node it came from. Searching the dedicated structure would be far more efficient then searching the TreeView Nodes collection.

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                                  That doesn't make sense either as you'd have to manually walk the tree to find the node that is selected. Not very efficient, is it?? The TreeView already has a SelectedNode property which will return the node that is selected. From there, it's trivial to navigate up to the Node tree to the root of the Nodes collection in the TreeView control. Getting back to your original search problem, you're going about it wrong. You're thinking about searching a tree structure that's not designed to be searched efficiently. What you should be doing is a dedicated indexing solution for a collection of paths, each of which contains a reference to the Node it came from. Searching the dedicated structure would be far more efficient then searching the TreeView Nodes collection.

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                                  treddie
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                                  TnTinMn offered the following solution back in post, 13 May '13 - 13:13. Seems pretty darn elegant and compact. I am in the process of testing its performance on a TreeView loaded with a huge drive's directory structure.

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                                  • T treddie

                                    Hi again. I have a peculiar problem that is somewhat reminiscent of vb6's Eval() function. Let's say I have a TreeView populated with an entire harddrive's directory structure, and I want to select the node that contains a folder I am looking for. If I use the .Find method, the search could take forever, and I may end up with multiple places in the TreeView where this name is located. If I already have the full path to the correct folder, then I need a quick way to get to the node without having to search the entire tree. Now, I actually have a quick way of doing this (at least I am confident it will work), but in the process of getting to that solution, I was experimenting with another idea that harks back to that vb6 Eval() function...Sort of. That other idea revolved around selectively expanding a tree branch and testing inside each child node to make sure that the next folder name in my full path could be found there. If so, it would expand that node and continue until all folders in the full path had been exhausted. Theoretically, I would then be at my desired node, which I could then select in the tree. But the problem is that in order to do that, you start at TreeView1.Nodes(0) and do a Find(). Once that node is selected, it gets expanded and you then do a Find() for the second folder, which gets found at Nodes(0).Nodes(x). Moving along in the same fashion, you get to Nodes(0).Nodes(x).Nodes(y), and so on till the task is completed. I think you can see the problem already...Without explicitly setting up Case blocks or If/Else blocks to handle each succession of methods, Nodes(0) Nodes(0).Nodes(x) Nodes(0).Nodes(x).Nodes(y),... there is no way for the code to handle this problem. And such a folder could lie at the tenth childnode, maybe even the twentieth, or more. The point being, it is a kludge to try to estimate when you should stop providing hard-coded cases and pray that some scenario doesn't exceed that limit. That is when I was thinking if there was a way to build a string programatically to whatever length I needed it to be, like, "TreeView1.Nodes(0).Nodes(x).Nodes(y).Expand" and then convert that string into an actual code statement by having the string "evaluated" as such. Is this possible? As I stated above, I think I found another very elegant solution to my TreeView Find() problem which is simple and quick. But I am curious now, if vb.Net has the ability to turn a string into a code statement, or maybe even multiline text into actual v

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                                    If the user is going to change large parts of the code, use a ScriptControl COM component. It allows you to run a String as code.

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                                      If the user is going to change large parts of the code, use a ScriptControl COM component. It allows you to run a String as code.

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                                      Thanks, Edward! I'll check into it and report back.

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