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  • B BobJanova

    The Zortech C compiler was a bit like that with any syntax mistake (like missing a semicolon or for sure a brace): look at the first error and ignore the other 200 it generated.

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    AlphaDeltaTheta
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    All C compilers are probably like that... even MINGW and MSVC does this till today... By far, only tcc gives good compile time errors!!

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    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

      <shudder> I'd forgotten that one: OS/360 in my case. And wasn't the explanation helpfull as well? "The RTM2WA is pointed to by the TCB of the failing task (field TCBRTWA), and is listed after the abnormally ending TCB." Why can't you just say "You forgot a comma you idiot" and let us both move on? :laugh:

      The universe is composed of electrons, neutrons, protons and......morons. (ThePhantomUpvoter)

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      AlphaDeltaTheta
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      Hoa! :omg: Well I never programmed any of OS/* or COBOL... But this one looks insane

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      • B base2 codeproject

        Stack overflow exceptions! Although they don't happen often, they are tricky to debug as the stack trace isn't available to me when it happens.

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        AlphaDeltaTheta
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        This happened quite often to me, once I had written a file finder program. During tests, once I tried to search a really huge directory tree and boom! Stack Overflow. And that is still in my code -- Known Issues - "WONTFIX" - Craches with huge file trees!

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        • Y YvesDaoust

          "the application has failed to start because its side-by-side configuration is incorrect" This one gives me nightmares because so far I have been unable to troubleshoot it. The application refuses to start, that's it. No clue on what DLL was missing/of invalid type or whatsoever. Quite efficiently contributes to the arcane mysteries of .NET technology. One more instance of what harold aptroot said.

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          AlphaDeltaTheta
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          Not only .NET. It also happens with native exe's. Mostly if there is an error in the application manifest. (Not the .NET assembly manifest, the one embedded in the exe)

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          • B BobJanova

            That is so you fix the problem (i.e. plug in a keyboard) before trying to use the computer.

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            AlphaDeltaTheta
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            My keyboard (PS/2) was plugged in already... what else shall I do?? That time my head grows hot and ":mad: Mr COMPUTER, HOW MANY DAMN KEYBOARDS DO YOU WANT??"

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            • P patbob

              YvesDaoust wrote:

              This one gives me nightmares because so far I have been unable to troubleshoot it. The application refuses to start, that's it. No clue on what DLL was missing/of invalid type or whatsoever

              Check into sxstrace. It generates a log of all side-by-side library loads, reporting what library versions were checked and which were loaded (or not found). Totally useless for C# though, but useful for native code.

              We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.

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              patbob wrote:

              Check into sxstrace. It generates a log of all side-by-side library loads, reporting what library versions were checked and which were loaded (or not found). Totally useless for C# though, but useful for native code.

              Hey, It will be very helpful to me if you please instruct me how to use that tool ??

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              • G gjpt

                Keyboard error Press F1

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                How in the world I'll press F1 after keyboard error??

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                • K KLSmith

                  Seems to me that worst is being interpreted as either: nonsensical, useless (programmer too lazy to write a meaningful message), or a dreaded message, where something bad really did happen. Here is a nonsensical one: One recent message in my Windows-7 system event log was The service failed to start. Reason: The service finished successfully.

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                  KLSmith wrote:

                  The service failed to start. Reason: The service finished successfully.

                  This is a good one... Also in my event log!

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                  • P Peter Webb

                    Up until yesterday "Out of Memory" was my worst exception. By coincidence, today I found out was not actually an exception, but an error condition in Java, which explains why I wasn't catching it. So now its been promoted to worst throwable. And I hate pretty much everything you can throw.

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                    I have a top-level exception (well, throwable) catcher that catches all these and creates another, Unexpected Error :laugh:

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                    • T Tomz_KV

                      Jacquers wrote:

                      object reference not set to an instance of an object

                      This exception message is not useful at all. It would be nice if it gives the object name.

                      TOMZ_KV

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                      Tomz_KV wrote:

                      This exception message is not useful at all. It would be nice if it gives the object name.

                      It would be nice if the computer served up tea and crumpets while it explained the vagaries of the code that put it in this situation, but the fact of the matter is that this is a normal unhandled exception message. It is your responsibility as a developer to throw explanatory errors to the system before general purpose messages crumple it up into a general purpose error message. It should at least give you the stack trace, which tells you where the error occurred and if you read that line, it tells you the object it thought it was when the error occurred and you might even find out what the object really was when it was created if you follow the trace far enough. All general purpose error messages are an indication that the developer lacked the caring needed to create meaningful error messages in the special situation it was brought to, completely by (the lack of caring by) the developer's hand.

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                      • A AlphaDeltaTheta

                        I have a top-level exception (well, throwable) catcher that catches all these and creates another, Unexpected Error :laugh:

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                        Peter Webb
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                        The temptation is to wrap my entire runnable in something like: Try {// running my program} Catch (Throwable anything) { // act like nothing bad happened and restart somewhere nice } But my head tells me that handling every possible throwable in my code is probably not a great idea.

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                        • A AlphaDeltaTheta

                          What's in your mind is the worst exception in programming?? My favourite is Out of Memory!

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                          dpminusa
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                          What about the ones with no description and just an error code. You can get some general information from MSDN that leads to a category but ...

                          "Courtesy is the product of a mature, disciplined mind ... ridicule is lack of the same - DPM"

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                          • P Peter Webb

                            Up until yesterday "Out of Memory" was my worst exception. By coincidence, today I found out was not actually an exception, but an error condition in Java, which explains why I wasn't catching it. So now its been promoted to worst throwable. And I hate pretty much everything you can throw.

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                            BobJanova
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                            There's actually a really good reason for that, too. If it were an Exception, you'd catch it and try to run some more code, which would almost certainly not have the memory to run, throwing it again. Unexpected exceptions in catch/finally blocks can really screw your code up, so OOME is not supposed to be caught except in the explicit case that you really want to handle it. In Java there's very little you can do about it because you don't directly control your memory.

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                            • R Reelix

                              Uncaught Error - 'undefined' The error message that gets thrown when an HTML5 WebSocket crashes due to an unknown cause...

                              -= Reelix =-

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                              BobJanova
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                              Socket error handling is a nightmare even in a real language/environment ... SocketDisposedException is the .Net equivalent of this, when a socket is closed but it hasn't got around to telling you until you try to write to it.

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                              • K KP Lee

                                Tomz_KV wrote:

                                This exception message is not useful at all. It would be nice if it gives the object name.

                                It would be nice if the computer served up tea and crumpets while it explained the vagaries of the code that put it in this situation, but the fact of the matter is that this is a normal unhandled exception message. It is your responsibility as a developer to throw explanatory errors to the system before general purpose messages crumple it up into a general purpose error message. It should at least give you the stack trace, which tells you where the error occurred and if you read that line, it tells you the object it thought it was when the error occurred and you might even find out what the object really was when it was created if you follow the trace far enough. All general purpose error messages are an indication that the developer lacked the caring needed to create meaningful error messages in the special situation it was brought to, completely by (the lack of caring by) the developer's hand.

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                                When try..catch is used, no details will be given.

                                TOMZ_KV

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                                • A AlphaDeltaTheta

                                  What's in your mind is the worst exception in programming?? My favourite is Out of Memory!

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                                  For me, the worst is the Prism Framework's composition exception. There is often not enough detail to be able to tell exactly what the issue is - so you end up having to retrace through the composition of the object and its imports only to think its OK and the framework is screwing with you. Then after staring blankly at the code for an hour you finally see a missing export or an unhandled exception in a constructor somewhere and you curse Prism for not telling you that in the first place! Then you feel like an idiot for missing it for the last hour.

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                                  • A AlphaDeltaTheta

                                    patbob wrote:

                                    Check into sxstrace. It generates a log of all side-by-side library loads, reporting what library versions were checked and which were loaded (or not found). Totally useless for C# though, but useful for native code.

                                    Hey, It will be very helpful to me if you please instruct me how to use that tool ??

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                                    patbob
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                                    I don't have time to do a full how-to, but briefly, you launch it from an admin window with the options to start logging. Launch your app and bring it to the error. Then run sxstrace again to stop logging. Then run sxstrace a final time to translate the binary log to a txt file. You'll have to google for details. In theory, every SxS access/DLL-search gets logged, which versions of which libraries it was looking for, which it found, their suitability, etc. In practice, it seems not everything. Hope that helps.

                                    We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.

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                                      I don't have time to do a full how-to, but briefly, you launch it from an admin window with the options to start logging. Launch your app and bring it to the error. Then run sxstrace again to stop logging. Then run sxstrace a final time to translate the binary log to a txt file. You'll have to google for details. In theory, every SxS access/DLL-search gets logged, which versions of which libraries it was looking for, which it found, their suitability, etc. In practice, it seems not everything. Hope that helps.

                                      We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.

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                                      AlphaDeltaTheta
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                                      Thanks, this is enough to get started! If I require more... I'll google it!

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                                      • J jibalt

                                        Do you work in the Department of Redundancy department? ABEND means "Abnormal End" ... there was no "Abnormal ABEND".

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                                        pkfox
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                                        Hi there, I know what abend means I'm merely stating the error message I received on many occasions.

                                        When the going gets weird the weird turn pro - Hunter S Thompson RIP

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                                        • K KP Lee

                                          Tomz_KV wrote:

                                          This exception message is not useful at all. It would be nice if it gives the object name.

                                          It would be nice if the computer served up tea and crumpets while it explained the vagaries of the code that put it in this situation, but the fact of the matter is that this is a normal unhandled exception message. It is your responsibility as a developer to throw explanatory errors to the system before general purpose messages crumple it up into a general purpose error message. It should at least give you the stack trace, which tells you where the error occurred and if you read that line, it tells you the object it thought it was when the error occurred and you might even find out what the object really was when it was created if you follow the trace far enough. All general purpose error messages are an indication that the developer lacked the caring needed to create meaningful error messages in the special situation it was brought to, completely by (the lack of caring by) the developer's hand.

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                                          kerem ispirli
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                                          tea, yes!

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