Being a developer is....cool?
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So I was asked by a friend of the family a few months ago to set up a mine craft server for her son (who at the age of ten quite rightly was a little out of his depth). Once the server was set up the boy reported to his Mother how all the other kids were jealous that they could play on "Jake's Awesome Server" and that the boy had been the source of envy throught-out lower school. I have also noticed a strong following with developers who blog, specifically those who create apps, those who download them tend to show more of an interest in developers these days. When I started to look around at blogs, forums and other online media I found myself having to google information about Developer Evangelists who I have seen just about everywhere. With movies like "The social network" and cults based around great men like Steve Jobs is it now cool to be a developer (or indeed a geek)?
Simon Lee Shugar (Software Developer) www.simonshugar.co.uk "You can be a king or a street sweeper, but everybody dances with the grim reaper" - Robert Alton Harris
It sure is not girl repellent as it was in the 80s.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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So I was asked by a friend of the family a few months ago to set up a mine craft server for her son (who at the age of ten quite rightly was a little out of his depth). Once the server was set up the boy reported to his Mother how all the other kids were jealous that they could play on "Jake's Awesome Server" and that the boy had been the source of envy throught-out lower school. I have also noticed a strong following with developers who blog, specifically those who create apps, those who download them tend to show more of an interest in developers these days. When I started to look around at blogs, forums and other online media I found myself having to google information about Developer Evangelists who I have seen just about everywhere. With movies like "The social network" and cults based around great men like Steve Jobs is it now cool to be a developer (or indeed a geek)?
Simon Lee Shugar (Software Developer) www.simonshugar.co.uk "You can be a king or a street sweeper, but everybody dances with the grim reaper" - Robert Alton Harris
I think in the last 5 years, in the eyes of the public, being a developer has drifted away from the office drone Dilbert-esque archetype. Using the description 'developer' instead of 'engineer' helps, using 'apps' instead of 'software', too. Generally I think it's because of the increase in mobile devices running widely used software.
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I think in the last 5 years, in the eyes of the public, being a developer has drifted away from the office drone Dilbert-esque archetype. Using the description 'developer' instead of 'engineer' helps, using 'apps' instead of 'software', too. Generally I think it's because of the increase in mobile devices running widely used software.
True, possibly the introduction of more Indie Apps across platforms?
Simon Lee Shugar (Software Developer) www.simonshugar.co.uk "You can be a king or a street sweeper, but everybody dances with the grim reaper" - Robert Alton Harris
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It sure is not girl repellent as it was in the 80s.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Isn't girl attractive either... Say how many female CPians you know??
Christian Graus wrote:
It sure is not girl repellent as it was in the 80s.
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Isn't girl attractive either... Say how many female CPians you know??
Christian Graus wrote:
It sure is not girl repellent as it was in the 80s.
I hired a female dev yesterday. She was the best applicant by a MILE.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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So I was asked by a friend of the family a few months ago to set up a mine craft server for her son (who at the age of ten quite rightly was a little out of his depth). Once the server was set up the boy reported to his Mother how all the other kids were jealous that they could play on "Jake's Awesome Server" and that the boy had been the source of envy throught-out lower school. I have also noticed a strong following with developers who blog, specifically those who create apps, those who download them tend to show more of an interest in developers these days. When I started to look around at blogs, forums and other online media I found myself having to google information about Developer Evangelists who I have seen just about everywhere. With movies like "The social network" and cults based around great men like Steve Jobs is it now cool to be a developer (or indeed a geek)?
Simon Lee Shugar (Software Developer) www.simonshugar.co.uk "You can be a king or a street sweeper, but everybody dances with the grim reaper" - Robert Alton Harris
When I first started if someone asked me what I did I would struggle to come up with a title that would adequately describe the job. I settled on "I work in IT" and watched their eyes glaze over. Better was "I get paid to play with computers" which I always thought was closer to the truth. Their eyes still glazed. Nowadays I just say I'm a developer as I can't be asked to fix everyone's computer problems for nothing. An example would be a taxi driver friend that had a problem with his pc that I fixed. When I asked him for a ride to the airport he wanted to charge me. What the elephant? I didn't charge you to fix your computer!!! :)
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures
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I hired a female dev yesterday. She was the best applicant by a MILE.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
I admit, my outlook was largely regional, this is the condition of my place... Girls hate devs
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I think in the last 5 years, in the eyes of the public, being a developer has drifted away from the office drone Dilbert-esque archetype. Using the description 'developer' instead of 'engineer' helps, using 'apps' instead of 'software', too. Generally I think it's because of the increase in mobile devices running widely used software.
I am sick of people thinking 'app' means something more complex or out there than 'a program for a mobile platform'.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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I admit, my outlook was largely regional, this is the condition of my place... Girls hate devs
Well, I still think there's probably tons of girls who prefer jocks. And I was overjoyed to see a great female dev, they are still thin on the ground, overall.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Isn't girl attractive either... Say how many female CPians you know??
Christian Graus wrote:
It sure is not girl repellent as it was in the 80s.
I don't think that is the reason that you don't see females in The Lounge, it is more likely that the "Toby's Club" attitude and the slightly (to very) misogynistic comments sometimes found here are the reasons that scare them away.
If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right - Henry Ford Emmanuel Medina Lopez
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I don't think that is the reason that you don't see females in The Lounge, it is more likely that the "Toby's Club" attitude and the slightly (to very) misogynistic comments sometimes found here are the reasons that scare them away.
If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right - Henry Ford Emmanuel Medina Lopez
Not speaking about the lounge... (Girls are busy!) Entire CP??
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True, possibly the introduction of more Indie Apps across platforms?
Simon Lee Shugar (Software Developer) www.simonshugar.co.uk "You can be a king or a street sweeper, but everybody dances with the grim reaper" - Robert Alton Harris
Just a theory: I think what makes developers more cool is the culture associated with the Indie Apps. Tech starts ups look and feel like marketing companies now, and they do spend a lot of effort on branding themselves. I think it makes developers now fit into the creative type jobs, like design, marketing, copywriting, etc, as opposed to just IT people. There is now a separation of IT from developers, and since mobile and web development is much more dependent on graphic and copywrite people, developers work alongside them more than developers who do strictly Windows GUI, or dorkier yet, console applications (like myself). Since developers work with and among the cool, creative types, and in cool, creative workplaces, they are cool and creative by association. I only the other hand, lose any hip image associated with development when I say I do financial software, no web, no mobile. Pretty much bottom of the ladder like it's always been, and I don't mind.
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I hired a female dev yesterday. She was the best applicant by a MILE.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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So I was asked by a friend of the family a few months ago to set up a mine craft server for her son (who at the age of ten quite rightly was a little out of his depth). Once the server was set up the boy reported to his Mother how all the other kids were jealous that they could play on "Jake's Awesome Server" and that the boy had been the source of envy throught-out lower school. I have also noticed a strong following with developers who blog, specifically those who create apps, those who download them tend to show more of an interest in developers these days. When I started to look around at blogs, forums and other online media I found myself having to google information about Developer Evangelists who I have seen just about everywhere. With movies like "The social network" and cults based around great men like Steve Jobs is it now cool to be a developer (or indeed a geek)?
Simon Lee Shugar (Software Developer) www.simonshugar.co.uk "You can be a king or a street sweeper, but everybody dances with the grim reaper" - Robert Alton Harris
I have to beat the ladies off with a sh1tty stick, it's that cool.
I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
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I have to beat the ladies off with a sh1tty stick, it's that cool.
I was brought up to respect my elders. I don't respect many people nowadays.
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easierYes - but unfortunately that says more about the type of lady than it does about your tech-magnetism!
MVVM # - I did it My Way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')
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When I first started if someone asked me what I did I would struggle to come up with a title that would adequately describe the job. I settled on "I work in IT" and watched their eyes glaze over. Better was "I get paid to play with computers" which I always thought was closer to the truth. Their eyes still glazed. Nowadays I just say I'm a developer as I can't be asked to fix everyone's computer problems for nothing. An example would be a taxi driver friend that had a problem with his pc that I fixed. When I asked him for a ride to the airport he wanted to charge me. What the elephant? I didn't charge you to fix your computer!!! :)
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures
That's a real shame. Taxi drivers are supposed to be cool.
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Yes - but unfortunately that says more about the type of lady than it does about your tech-magnetism!
MVVM # - I did it My Way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')
Female geeks are in paradise and they know it. Gawky, strangely dressed, yet somehow attractive. They hold the salvation of socially isolated devs. I could do with one. Instead I built a World Domination Cave, with wifi everything on a 40 inch monitor, and started blogging my recordings of BBC News to a small and equally sad following worldwide. I may have to start calling myself 'Stark Staring Oddfinger'. ;)
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So I was asked by a friend of the family a few months ago to set up a mine craft server for her son (who at the age of ten quite rightly was a little out of his depth). Once the server was set up the boy reported to his Mother how all the other kids were jealous that they could play on "Jake's Awesome Server" and that the boy had been the source of envy throught-out lower school. I have also noticed a strong following with developers who blog, specifically those who create apps, those who download them tend to show more of an interest in developers these days. When I started to look around at blogs, forums and other online media I found myself having to google information about Developer Evangelists who I have seen just about everywhere. With movies like "The social network" and cults based around great men like Steve Jobs is it now cool to be a developer (or indeed a geek)?
Simon Lee Shugar (Software Developer) www.simonshugar.co.uk "You can be a king or a street sweeper, but everybody dances with the grim reaper" - Robert Alton Harris
Could it also be related to the rise in Developer Evangelists lately also? Preach the word!
Simon Lee Shugar (Software Developer) www.simonshugar.co.uk "You can be a king or a street sweeper, but everybody dances with the grim reaper" - Robert Alton Harris
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So I was asked by a friend of the family a few months ago to set up a mine craft server for her son (who at the age of ten quite rightly was a little out of his depth). Once the server was set up the boy reported to his Mother how all the other kids were jealous that they could play on "Jake's Awesome Server" and that the boy had been the source of envy throught-out lower school. I have also noticed a strong following with developers who blog, specifically those who create apps, those who download them tend to show more of an interest in developers these days. When I started to look around at blogs, forums and other online media I found myself having to google information about Developer Evangelists who I have seen just about everywhere. With movies like "The social network" and cults based around great men like Steve Jobs is it now cool to be a developer (or indeed a geek)?
Simon Lee Shugar (Software Developer) www.simonshugar.co.uk "You can be a king or a street sweeper, but everybody dances with the grim reaper" - Robert Alton Harris
Simon Lee Shugar wrote: is it now cool to be a developer (or indeed a geek)? Nope. Still not cool. Making lots of money can make up for that, though. "I am rarely happier than when spending entire day programming my computer to perform automatically a task that it would otherwise take me a good ten seconds to do by hand." - Douglas Adams
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When I first started if someone asked me what I did I would struggle to come up with a title that would adequately describe the job. I settled on "I work in IT" and watched their eyes glaze over. Better was "I get paid to play with computers" which I always thought was closer to the truth. Their eyes still glazed. Nowadays I just say I'm a developer as I can't be asked to fix everyone's computer problems for nothing. An example would be a taxi driver friend that had a problem with his pc that I fixed. When I asked him for a ride to the airport he wanted to charge me. What the elephant? I didn't charge you to fix your computer!!! :)
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures
Totally uncool of him. If he knows that you don't make your living doing break/fix PC work and he does make a living driving a taxi (especially if he's just a hack working for someone else where every mile has to be accounted for) then he sees them as being different. Still sucks though - how did you ultimately handle that?