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yes, you are being watched on the internet, outside your country of birth ... who would have thought ?

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    BillWoodruff
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    Providing even more Happy Meals for paranoiacs, the New York Times today reports that U.S. intelligence agencies' Prism program has been helping itself to internet communications by citizens abroad on Google, FaceBook, and Apple servers, for six years. [^] I'm not attempting to start a soapbox-riot/rally here, but I will say that, personally, I think that we are in the "age of terrorism," which has spawned the age of direct surveillance, and those two phenomena, incarnations of Ifrit and Marid (if you'll allow borrowing from Islamic demonology), have suckled each other's hind-tits, spawning incestuously mutant metastases in the body politic ... which can now be so simultaneously vivisected, by millions, on-line, in real-time. That many Americans have grown up imagining that personal communications by telegraph, fax, cable, telephone, cell-phone, etc., from outside the U.S. during- and post- WWII, were not being monitored in the 20~21st. centuries, is, imho, perhaps a symptom of my fellow country-folk's cultural naivete ... and my own. (see: Echelon, AUSCANNZUKUS, etc.) So many Americans of my generation, baby-boomers, were raised in a little lily-white bubble, where the atom-bomb shaped toaster, the fall-out shelter, the all-electric kitchen were taken for granted, but spying and espionage were things that happened behind the "iron curtain," or in that demonized unknown shadow-world, called "China." I, for one, feel that a sacrifice of my own personal privacy that saves lives is acceptable, but I expect no one else to share my views. The paradox that invasion of the personal communications of a citizen by the state can itself create terror, or, in-and-of itself is a form of terror: is very salient to me.

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    All futurity seems teeming with Endless Destruction never to be repelld ! Desperate remorse swallows the present in a quenchless rage William Blake, The Four Zoas, Vala: Night the Eighth, 30. 1797CE

    Praise be for the prescient creators of the Internet, for creating a structure that has fostered privacy through decentralization of the flow of information. Damnation to those who, in the name of the state, abuse technology, and heaven help the fools who allow companies like FaceBook, LinkedIn, make it easy to harvest their address-books, and private

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      Providing even more Happy Meals for paranoiacs, the New York Times today reports that U.S. intelligence agencies' Prism program has been helping itself to internet communications by citizens abroad on Google, FaceBook, and Apple servers, for six years. [^] I'm not attempting to start a soapbox-riot/rally here, but I will say that, personally, I think that we are in the "age of terrorism," which has spawned the age of direct surveillance, and those two phenomena, incarnations of Ifrit and Marid (if you'll allow borrowing from Islamic demonology), have suckled each other's hind-tits, spawning incestuously mutant metastases in the body politic ... which can now be so simultaneously vivisected, by millions, on-line, in real-time. That many Americans have grown up imagining that personal communications by telegraph, fax, cable, telephone, cell-phone, etc., from outside the U.S. during- and post- WWII, were not being monitored in the 20~21st. centuries, is, imho, perhaps a symptom of my fellow country-folk's cultural naivete ... and my own. (see: Echelon, AUSCANNZUKUS, etc.) So many Americans of my generation, baby-boomers, were raised in a little lily-white bubble, where the atom-bomb shaped toaster, the fall-out shelter, the all-electric kitchen were taken for granted, but spying and espionage were things that happened behind the "iron curtain," or in that demonized unknown shadow-world, called "China." I, for one, feel that a sacrifice of my own personal privacy that saves lives is acceptable, but I expect no one else to share my views. The paradox that invasion of the personal communications of a citizen by the state can itself create terror, or, in-and-of itself is a form of terror: is very salient to me.

      Quote:

      All futurity seems teeming with Endless Destruction never to be repelld ! Desperate remorse swallows the present in a quenchless rage William Blake, The Four Zoas, Vala: Night the Eighth, 30. 1797CE

      Praise be for the prescient creators of the Internet, for creating a structure that has fostered privacy through decentralization of the flow of information. Damnation to those who, in the name of the state, abuse technology, and heaven help the fools who allow companies like FaceBook, LinkedIn, make it easy to harvest their address-books, and private

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      Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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      NSA - National Security Agency! That explains it I wondered why the National Sheep Association http://www.nationalsheep.org.uk/[^] were intercepting calls, I had thought it was something to with griff or maybe operation yewtree

      You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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        Providing even more Happy Meals for paranoiacs, the New York Times today reports that U.S. intelligence agencies' Prism program has been helping itself to internet communications by citizens abroad on Google, FaceBook, and Apple servers, for six years. [^] I'm not attempting to start a soapbox-riot/rally here, but I will say that, personally, I think that we are in the "age of terrorism," which has spawned the age of direct surveillance, and those two phenomena, incarnations of Ifrit and Marid (if you'll allow borrowing from Islamic demonology), have suckled each other's hind-tits, spawning incestuously mutant metastases in the body politic ... which can now be so simultaneously vivisected, by millions, on-line, in real-time. That many Americans have grown up imagining that personal communications by telegraph, fax, cable, telephone, cell-phone, etc., from outside the U.S. during- and post- WWII, were not being monitored in the 20~21st. centuries, is, imho, perhaps a symptom of my fellow country-folk's cultural naivete ... and my own. (see: Echelon, AUSCANNZUKUS, etc.) So many Americans of my generation, baby-boomers, were raised in a little lily-white bubble, where the atom-bomb shaped toaster, the fall-out shelter, the all-electric kitchen were taken for granted, but spying and espionage were things that happened behind the "iron curtain," or in that demonized unknown shadow-world, called "China." I, for one, feel that a sacrifice of my own personal privacy that saves lives is acceptable, but I expect no one else to share my views. The paradox that invasion of the personal communications of a citizen by the state can itself create terror, or, in-and-of itself is a form of terror: is very salient to me.

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        All futurity seems teeming with Endless Destruction never to be repelld ! Desperate remorse swallows the present in a quenchless rage William Blake, The Four Zoas, Vala: Night the Eighth, 30. 1797CE

        Praise be for the prescient creators of the Internet, for creating a structure that has fostered privacy through decentralization of the flow of information. Damnation to those who, in the name of the state, abuse technology, and heaven help the fools who allow companies like FaceBook, LinkedIn, make it easy to harvest their address-books, and private

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        Lost User
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        BillWoodruff wrote:

        I, for one, feel that a sacrifice of my own personal privacy that saves lives is acceptable

        It ain't. How do you know whether it saves a life, if you don't know what the data is? It might actually COST lives. Never had a FB, and started moving away from Google as soon as I noticed that I wasn't in control of my data. Nowadays, everything is local. Call me paranoid :)

        Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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          BillWoodruff wrote:

          I, for one, feel that a sacrifice of my own personal privacy that saves lives is acceptable

          It ain't. How do you know whether it saves a life, if you don't know what the data is? It might actually COST lives. Never had a FB, and started moving away from Google as soon as I noticed that I wasn't in control of my data. Nowadays, everything is local. Call me paranoid :)

          Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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          Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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          Paranoid Eddy Vluggen Eddy Paranoid Vluggen Eddy Vluggen Paranoid I think the first one has the best ring to it

          You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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            BillWoodruff wrote:

            I, for one, feel that a sacrifice of my own personal privacy that saves lives is acceptable

            It ain't. How do you know whether it saves a life, if you don't know what the data is? It might actually COST lives. Never had a FB, and started moving away from Google as soon as I noticed that I wasn't in control of my data. Nowadays, everything is local. Call me paranoid :)

            Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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            TnTinMn
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            hey, that's my name too. :)

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              Paranoid Eddy Vluggen Eddy Paranoid Vluggen Eddy Vluggen Paranoid I think the first one has the best ring to it

              You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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              BillWoodruff
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              If disagreeing with me makes another sentient being paranoid, then I really have something to worry about. Eddy Vluggen has my complete respect, speaking as one "master debator," of another ! Name-calling is far too cheap, and easy. yours, Bill

              Life is the static constructor of a singleton, guaranteed to be loaded before we reference it ?


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              • B BillWoodruff

                Providing even more Happy Meals for paranoiacs, the New York Times today reports that U.S. intelligence agencies' Prism program has been helping itself to internet communications by citizens abroad on Google, FaceBook, and Apple servers, for six years. [^] I'm not attempting to start a soapbox-riot/rally here, but I will say that, personally, I think that we are in the "age of terrorism," which has spawned the age of direct surveillance, and those two phenomena, incarnations of Ifrit and Marid (if you'll allow borrowing from Islamic demonology), have suckled each other's hind-tits, spawning incestuously mutant metastases in the body politic ... which can now be so simultaneously vivisected, by millions, on-line, in real-time. That many Americans have grown up imagining that personal communications by telegraph, fax, cable, telephone, cell-phone, etc., from outside the U.S. during- and post- WWII, were not being monitored in the 20~21st. centuries, is, imho, perhaps a symptom of my fellow country-folk's cultural naivete ... and my own. (see: Echelon, AUSCANNZUKUS, etc.) So many Americans of my generation, baby-boomers, were raised in a little lily-white bubble, where the atom-bomb shaped toaster, the fall-out shelter, the all-electric kitchen were taken for granted, but spying and espionage were things that happened behind the "iron curtain," or in that demonized unknown shadow-world, called "China." I, for one, feel that a sacrifice of my own personal privacy that saves lives is acceptable, but I expect no one else to share my views. The paradox that invasion of the personal communications of a citizen by the state can itself create terror, or, in-and-of itself is a form of terror: is very salient to me.

                Quote:

                All futurity seems teeming with Endless Destruction never to be repelld ! Desperate remorse swallows the present in a quenchless rage William Blake, The Four Zoas, Vala: Night the Eighth, 30. 1797CE

                Praise be for the prescient creators of the Internet, for creating a structure that has fostered privacy through decentralization of the flow of information. Damnation to those who, in the name of the state, abuse technology, and heaven help the fools who allow companies like FaceBook, LinkedIn, make it easy to harvest their address-books, and private

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                I think I just realized that slavery is our natural state. The proof: Washington DC isn't in flames right now. Q.E.D.

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                  I think I just realized that slavery is our natural state. The proof: Washington DC isn't in flames right now. Q.E.D.

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                  baloneyman
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                  Bet you get a visit on that post...

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                    Providing even more Happy Meals for paranoiacs, the New York Times today reports that U.S. intelligence agencies' Prism program has been helping itself to internet communications by citizens abroad on Google, FaceBook, and Apple servers, for six years. [^] I'm not attempting to start a soapbox-riot/rally here, but I will say that, personally, I think that we are in the "age of terrorism," which has spawned the age of direct surveillance, and those two phenomena, incarnations of Ifrit and Marid (if you'll allow borrowing from Islamic demonology), have suckled each other's hind-tits, spawning incestuously mutant metastases in the body politic ... which can now be so simultaneously vivisected, by millions, on-line, in real-time. That many Americans have grown up imagining that personal communications by telegraph, fax, cable, telephone, cell-phone, etc., from outside the U.S. during- and post- WWII, were not being monitored in the 20~21st. centuries, is, imho, perhaps a symptom of my fellow country-folk's cultural naivete ... and my own. (see: Echelon, AUSCANNZUKUS, etc.) So many Americans of my generation, baby-boomers, were raised in a little lily-white bubble, where the atom-bomb shaped toaster, the fall-out shelter, the all-electric kitchen were taken for granted, but spying and espionage were things that happened behind the "iron curtain," or in that demonized unknown shadow-world, called "China." I, for one, feel that a sacrifice of my own personal privacy that saves lives is acceptable, but I expect no one else to share my views. The paradox that invasion of the personal communications of a citizen by the state can itself create terror, or, in-and-of itself is a form of terror: is very salient to me.

                    Quote:

                    All futurity seems teeming with Endless Destruction never to be repelld ! Desperate remorse swallows the present in a quenchless rage William Blake, The Four Zoas, Vala: Night the Eighth, 30. 1797CE

                    Praise be for the prescient creators of the Internet, for creating a structure that has fostered privacy through decentralization of the flow of information. Damnation to those who, in the name of the state, abuse technology, and heaven help the fools who allow companies like FaceBook, LinkedIn, make it easy to harvest their address-books, and private

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                    H Brydon
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                    Just offhand, my guess is that somebody somewhere just did a search for you in a long list and clicked the checkbox next to your name.

                    -- Harvey

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