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  • C Christian Graus

    OK, so my wife works for speech pathologists, who have muttered about me being 'on the spectrum' for years. I've read a lot of books on male/female brain difference ( which feminists insist do not exist, and even Skeptic magazine ran a fallacious story on the topic this month ), and one in particular, by Simon Baron Cohen ( cousin of Borat ), posited that autism is in fact a type of hyper masculine brain wiring. Autism, of course, is a debilitating condition, but, aspergers is less so, apart from the lack of social skills aspect. In the last year, Aspergers has been recognised as a high functioning form of mild autism. When you read that autism numbers are exploding, the cause is not vaccines, but the broadening of the definition. So, it seems almost certain that I am an aspie. And it seems to me likely that a good % of programmers are likely to be. I took the test[^] and scored 35 ( above 32 is an informal diagnosis and 16 is the average score for the general population ). I'm curious how many other people here are diagnosed or self diagnosed aspies, or may find that they could be, based on this test. The test was written by Simon Baron Cohen, the guy who wrote that book, he's written several others that I've also read, he's a smart guy.

    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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    Dr Walt Fair PE
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    39 here, so I'm probably incurable, but my wife already knows that. I would also have scored much higher as a teenager, because I have learned to handle some social situations better over the years.

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    • C Christian Graus

      OK, so my wife works for speech pathologists, who have muttered about me being 'on the spectrum' for years. I've read a lot of books on male/female brain difference ( which feminists insist do not exist, and even Skeptic magazine ran a fallacious story on the topic this month ), and one in particular, by Simon Baron Cohen ( cousin of Borat ), posited that autism is in fact a type of hyper masculine brain wiring. Autism, of course, is a debilitating condition, but, aspergers is less so, apart from the lack of social skills aspect. In the last year, Aspergers has been recognised as a high functioning form of mild autism. When you read that autism numbers are exploding, the cause is not vaccines, but the broadening of the definition. So, it seems almost certain that I am an aspie. And it seems to me likely that a good % of programmers are likely to be. I took the test[^] and scored 35 ( above 32 is an informal diagnosis and 16 is the average score for the general population ). I'm curious how many other people here are diagnosed or self diagnosed aspies, or may find that they could be, based on this test. The test was written by Simon Baron Cohen, the guy who wrote that book, he's written several others that I've also read, he's a smart guy.

      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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      What does it mean if you get annoyed with the test about 10 questions in, and then quit. There is definitely something wrong with me, but, it's nothing bad enough to make we want to take a pop quiz. :P

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      • C Christian Graus

        Yes, I always had a deep love of Disney movies that transferred to Pixar on the basis that they were better.

        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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        I love Disney movies as well. In fact, a friend of mine just lent me his copy of Tales from the Thousand and One Nights, and one of the tales is Aladdin. It's fun to compare the differences between the story and the movie. The Jafar from the movie seemed like 3 different people from the book. And it seems they just made up the name "Jasmine" for the movie, as her name from the book is not a typical name (Badroulbadour).

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          I love Disney movies as well. In fact, a friend of mine just lent me his copy of Tales from the Thousand and One Nights, and one of the tales is Aladdin. It's fun to compare the differences between the story and the movie. The Jafar from the movie seemed like 3 different people from the book. And it seems they just made up the name "Jasmine" for the movie, as her name from the book is not a typical name (Badroulbadour).

          Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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          Yeah, it's not surprised they 'westernised' it a little. It was a good movie, although to me it was carried by Robin Williams and lacked depth.

          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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            What does it mean if you get annoyed with the test about 10 questions in, and then quit. There is definitely something wrong with me, but, it's nothing bad enough to make we want to take a pop quiz. :P

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            Joe_Dert wrote:

            What does it mean if you get annoyed with the test about 10 questions in, and then quit.
             
            There is definitely something wrong with me, but, it's nothing bad enough to make we want to take a pop quiz. :P

            That you're pretty normal and have happily left tests in the past. Like all the way back in High School.

            Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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              Joe_Dert wrote:

              What does it mean if you get annoyed with the test about 10 questions in, and then quit.
               
              There is definitely something wrong with me, but, it's nothing bad enough to make we want to take a pop quiz. :P

              That you're pretty normal and have happily left tests in the past. Like all the way back in High School.

              Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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              Okay, that's good to hear, thanks. :D I was a good test taker though. I hated homework the most, that's my time, leave me alone.

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              • C Christian Graus

                OK, so my wife works for speech pathologists, who have muttered about me being 'on the spectrum' for years. I've read a lot of books on male/female brain difference ( which feminists insist do not exist, and even Skeptic magazine ran a fallacious story on the topic this month ), and one in particular, by Simon Baron Cohen ( cousin of Borat ), posited that autism is in fact a type of hyper masculine brain wiring. Autism, of course, is a debilitating condition, but, aspergers is less so, apart from the lack of social skills aspect. In the last year, Aspergers has been recognised as a high functioning form of mild autism. When you read that autism numbers are exploding, the cause is not vaccines, but the broadening of the definition. So, it seems almost certain that I am an aspie. And it seems to me likely that a good % of programmers are likely to be. I took the test[^] and scored 35 ( above 32 is an informal diagnosis and 16 is the average score for the general population ). I'm curious how many other people here are diagnosed or self diagnosed aspies, or may find that they could be, based on this test. The test was written by Simon Baron Cohen, the guy who wrote that book, he's written several others that I've also read, he's a smart guy.

                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                Interesting. I scored a 9. Marc

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                  Interesting. I scored a 9. Marc

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                  Christian Graus
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                  Wow - 9 ? How is that even possible ? :P

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                  • C Christian Graus

                    OK, so my wife works for speech pathologists, who have muttered about me being 'on the spectrum' for years. I've read a lot of books on male/female brain difference ( which feminists insist do not exist, and even Skeptic magazine ran a fallacious story on the topic this month ), and one in particular, by Simon Baron Cohen ( cousin of Borat ), posited that autism is in fact a type of hyper masculine brain wiring. Autism, of course, is a debilitating condition, but, aspergers is less so, apart from the lack of social skills aspect. In the last year, Aspergers has been recognised as a high functioning form of mild autism. When you read that autism numbers are exploding, the cause is not vaccines, but the broadening of the definition. So, it seems almost certain that I am an aspie. And it seems to me likely that a good % of programmers are likely to be. I took the test[^] and scored 35 ( above 32 is an informal diagnosis and 16 is the average score for the general population ). I'm curious how many other people here are diagnosed or self diagnosed aspies, or may find that they could be, based on this test. The test was written by Simon Baron Cohen, the guy who wrote that book, he's written several others that I've also read, he's a smart guy.

                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                    _Damian S_
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                    14... go figure. But then, I'm not your stereotypical computer geek either...

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                    • C Christian Graus

                      OK, so my wife works for speech pathologists, who have muttered about me being 'on the spectrum' for years. I've read a lot of books on male/female brain difference ( which feminists insist do not exist, and even Skeptic magazine ran a fallacious story on the topic this month ), and one in particular, by Simon Baron Cohen ( cousin of Borat ), posited that autism is in fact a type of hyper masculine brain wiring. Autism, of course, is a debilitating condition, but, aspergers is less so, apart from the lack of social skills aspect. In the last year, Aspergers has been recognised as a high functioning form of mild autism. When you read that autism numbers are exploding, the cause is not vaccines, but the broadening of the definition. So, it seems almost certain that I am an aspie. And it seems to me likely that a good % of programmers are likely to be. I took the test[^] and scored 35 ( above 32 is an informal diagnosis and 16 is the average score for the general population ). I'm curious how many other people here are diagnosed or self diagnosed aspies, or may find that they could be, based on this test. The test was written by Simon Baron Cohen, the guy who wrote that book, he's written several others that I've also read, he's a smart guy.

                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                      Matthew Faithfull
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                      Hmm 24. I think it would have higher in the past. Going into politics has definitely made a difference. Public speaking will beat the introvert out of you if you have the determination. Still a way off 16 which doesn't bother me in the least. I was born without the 'desire to be average/normal' gene. :-D

                      "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                        14... go figure. But then, I'm not your stereotypical computer geek either...

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                        Christian Graus
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                        No, you're not, but we let you hang around here anyhow. It makes the rest of us look cooler.

                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                          Hmm 24. I think it would have higher in the past. Going into politics has definitely made a difference. Public speaking will beat the introvert out of you if you have the determination. Still a way off 16 which doesn't bother me in the least. I was born without the 'desire to be average/normal' gene. :-D

                          "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                          Christian Graus
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                          Well, our score is higher, so how is that not better ? :P

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                            I have run out of bookshelves, I read 1-2 books most weeks ( depending on length ) and just put them on the pile. CDs are the thing I collect for the sake of it, I buy CDs to have everything by an artist and sometimes don't even open them, I have over 4000, all alphabetical and then in order of release, and in a database. I used to collect movie posters, and also plastic figurines. I started with a couple and became obsessive. I sold those to win my wife. I made money on them.

                            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                            Christian Graus wrote:

                            most weeks ( depending on length )

                            Wow - they even have different length weeks in Tassie :)

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                              Christian Graus wrote:

                              most weeks ( depending on length )

                              Wow - they even have different length weeks in Tassie :)

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                              Of course, twice a year, when daylight savings starts and when it ends

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                                No, you're not, but we let you hang around here anyhow. It makes the rest of us look cooler.

                                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                _Damian S_
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                                Christian Graus wrote:

                                No, you're not, but we let you hang around here anyhow. It makes the rest of us look cooler.

                                Bwahahaha... glad to be of assistance!!

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                                  Well, our score is higher, so how is that not better ? :P

                                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                  It probably is for many situations. We're all good at different things and adapted to solve different types of problems, some social, some scientific, some mechanical, some philosophical. The really crazy thing is when we try to educate everyone to be the same, do the same, think the same. We loose collectively far more than we gain and end up with a lot of unfulfilled people who are not doing what they were made for. Those of us who refuse to be moulded in our thinking to 'normal' are given labels. The only reason I don't have one is that no one could ever classify what was different about my thinking. I'm not an Aspie nor properly dyslexic nor anything else there's a name for, just different. ;P There's a B5 quote I would have in my sig if I could ever remember it properly. Leeta Alexander says something like, "In every war you have a lot of small weapons, less medium weapons and a few really large weapons that you have just in case things go really badly. You don't want to use them but you have them just in case. I'm one of those."

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                                    Wow - 9 ? How is that even possible ? :P

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                                    Christian Graus wrote:

                                    Wow - 9 ? How is that even possible ?

                                    When I leave my cave, I'm actually very involved and comfortable socially. Actually, come to think of it, even in my cave, my housemate (a lovely young woman) and I are quite interactive in daily living, so my non-nerdy side, which is actually my stronger side, definitely affected how I answered a lot of those questions. Marc

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                                      It probably is for many situations. We're all good at different things and adapted to solve different types of problems, some social, some scientific, some mechanical, some philosophical. The really crazy thing is when we try to educate everyone to be the same, do the same, think the same. We loose collectively far more than we gain and end up with a lot of unfulfilled people who are not doing what they were made for. Those of us who refuse to be moulded in our thinking to 'normal' are given labels. The only reason I don't have one is that no one could ever classify what was different about my thinking. I'm not an Aspie nor properly dyslexic nor anything else there's a name for, just different. ;P There's a B5 quote I would have in my sig if I could ever remember it properly. Leeta Alexander says something like, "In every war you have a lot of small weapons, less medium weapons and a few really large weapons that you have just in case things go really badly. You don't want to use them but you have them just in case. I'm one of those."

                                      "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                                      Christian Graus
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                                      Our system of education was invented to create drones for the industrial revolution. It's tried to move past that, but it's still that, at the core. *grin* love the quote.

                                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                        Christian Graus wrote:

                                        Wow - 9 ? How is that even possible ?

                                        When I leave my cave, I'm actually very involved and comfortable socially. Actually, come to think of it, even in my cave, my housemate (a lovely young woman) and I are quite interactive in daily living, so my non-nerdy side, which is actually my stronger side, definitely affected how I answered a lot of those questions. Marc

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                                        Christian Graus
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                                        I am sure it's possible to be more socially aware than I am. I guess I just can't fathom being able to answer in a way that would score that low. I am in awe of you :-)

                                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                          I am sure it's possible to be more socially aware than I am. I guess I just can't fathom being able to answer in a way that would score that low. I am in awe of you :-)

                                          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                          Christian Graus wrote:

                                          I am in awe of you

                                          LOL! No need! Marc

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