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  • L lewax00

    Every now and then I come in to work, wake up my computer, and discover at some point during the night, it rebooted. It's not a huge issue, I save frequently, but it's annoying when I'm working on something that involves multiple applications that each take a few minutes to start up. So I was digging around in the event log, and discovered about every 5 days, for the past month, my computer has an unexpected shutdown just before 6:02 AM (specifically, all in the range of 6:01:42 AM to 6:01:56 AM). No one else seems to be having this issue. :doh: EDIT: Digging around in the BIOS I found my PC was set to boot everyday at 6 am automatically, could be related so I turned that off...won't know for sure for around another 4 days.

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    Do you have cleaners in your office? They might be unplugging your computer to plug in the vacuum.


    "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

    "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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    • L lewax00

      Every now and then I come in to work, wake up my computer, and discover at some point during the night, it rebooted. It's not a huge issue, I save frequently, but it's annoying when I'm working on something that involves multiple applications that each take a few minutes to start up. So I was digging around in the event log, and discovered about every 5 days, for the past month, my computer has an unexpected shutdown just before 6:02 AM (specifically, all in the range of 6:01:42 AM to 6:01:56 AM). No one else seems to be having this issue. :doh: EDIT: Digging around in the BIOS I found my PC was set to boot everyday at 6 am automatically, could be related so I turned that off...won't know for sure for around another 4 days.

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      At my job, the administrators schedule various things to automatically take place in the dead of night. One thing they schedule is Windows updates. However, when I get in, I see a dialog that says "click here to restart your computer"... doesn't restart automatically. Maybe your admins have it setup wrong. Could also be a scheduled defrag, and some hardware issue is causing a fault, which is forcing your computer to restart. Or could be a coworker you pissed off that happens to get in around 6AM. :rolleyes:

      Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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        At my job, the administrators schedule various things to automatically take place in the dead of night. One thing they schedule is Windows updates. However, when I get in, I see a dialog that says "click here to restart your computer"... doesn't restart automatically. Maybe your admins have it setup wrong. Could also be a scheduled defrag, and some hardware issue is causing a fault, which is forcing your computer to restart. Or could be a coworker you pissed off that happens to get in around 6AM. :rolleyes:

        Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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        lewax00
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        It's not Windows Update, it's listed as an unexpected power loss (the log event that is added when the plug is pulled, the power button is held down, etc.). Scheduled defrag is plausible. And it is way too consistent in timing to believe it's a human.

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        • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

          Do you have cleaners in your office? They might be unplugging your computer to plug in the vacuum.


          "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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          lewax00
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          Possible I suppose, but with how consistent it is, I doubt it. Also, the actual outlet is currently unreachable (behind the cubicle wall), and the power strip has a death grip on the plugs (which is good, except for when you want to add/remove a plug to/from it). And I think they come in at night anyways, I used to come in at 6 am and I never saw cleaners.

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          • L lewax00

            Every now and then I come in to work, wake up my computer, and discover at some point during the night, it rebooted. It's not a huge issue, I save frequently, but it's annoying when I'm working on something that involves multiple applications that each take a few minutes to start up. So I was digging around in the event log, and discovered about every 5 days, for the past month, my computer has an unexpected shutdown just before 6:02 AM (specifically, all in the range of 6:01:42 AM to 6:01:56 AM). No one else seems to be having this issue. :doh: EDIT: Digging around in the BIOS I found my PC was set to boot everyday at 6 am automatically, could be related so I turned that off...won't know for sure for around another 4 days.

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            And all this is really because you're running a process on this computer that must complete at some point in time? I've always had misgivings about leaving a box on for a long period of time. And not just for electricity bill considerations. In particular, a fairly modern mobo and cpu with good amount of memory capable of making "my" computations in an allotment of "psychic" energy. About that angst when I start to think about all those solder connections in there heating up and maintaining a constant no-shrink state, that's when the test is over. Either "my" task is too imposing and I shut it down. Or I read up on expandiing solder joints and luder's lines and things of this nature. Therapeutic, that.

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              And all this is really because you're running a process on this computer that must complete at some point in time? I've always had misgivings about leaving a box on for a long period of time. And not just for electricity bill considerations. In particular, a fairly modern mobo and cpu with good amount of memory capable of making "my" computations in an allotment of "psychic" energy. About that angst when I start to think about all those solder connections in there heating up and maintaining a constant no-shrink state, that's when the test is over. Either "my" task is too imposing and I shut it down. Or I read up on expandiing solder joints and luder's lines and things of this nature. Therapeutic, that.

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              RedDK wrote:

              And all this is really because you're running a process on this computer that must complete at some point in time?

              Maybe, weird though because that task is to specifically do the opposite of what it seems to be doing.

              RedDK wrote:

              I've always had misgivings about leaving a box on for a long period of time.

              I usually just put it to sleep Mon-Thu, and shut it down on Friday. It helps me remember what I was doing the day before (of course when Monday rolls around, I have no idea what I was doing Friday).

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                RedDK wrote:

                And all this is really because you're running a process on this computer that must complete at some point in time?

                Maybe, weird though because that task is to specifically do the opposite of what it seems to be doing.

                RedDK wrote:

                I've always had misgivings about leaving a box on for a long period of time.

                I usually just put it to sleep Mon-Thu, and shut it down on Friday. It helps me remember what I was doing the day before (of course when Monday rolls around, I have no idea what I was doing Friday).

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                lewax00 wrote:

                seems

                This is what I mean. If I'm not running a bench mark I'm resisting any temptation to shut the box down. That's the base state.

                lewax00 wrote:

                shut it down on Friday

                Seems to me then that this is not "my" process. Why fret over something you'll terminate anyway. Because it's Friday. [Edit]

                lewax00 wrote:

                weird

                ... way too much information for a Friday here in CP Lounge [/Edit]

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                • L lewax00

                  Every now and then I come in to work, wake up my computer, and discover at some point during the night, it rebooted. It's not a huge issue, I save frequently, but it's annoying when I'm working on something that involves multiple applications that each take a few minutes to start up. So I was digging around in the event log, and discovered about every 5 days, for the past month, my computer has an unexpected shutdown just before 6:02 AM (specifically, all in the range of 6:01:42 AM to 6:01:56 AM). No one else seems to be having this issue. :doh: EDIT: Digging around in the BIOS I found my PC was set to boot everyday at 6 am automatically, could be related so I turned that off...won't know for sure for around another 4 days.

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                  None of the replies (so far) have suggested this, but it could be network 'magic packets' that are able to wake your machine (WOL) to do admin/maintenance. My first guess was BIOS RTC. Now that you've disabled that, it's just a case of wait and see. :)

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                    None of the replies (so far) have suggested this, but it could be network 'magic packets' that are able to wake your machine (WOL) to do admin/maintenance. My first guess was BIOS RTC. Now that you've disabled that, it's just a case of wait and see. :)

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                    dusty_dex wrote:

                    None of the replies (so far) have suggested this, but it could be network 'magic packets' that are able to wake your machine (WOL) to do admin/maintenance.

                    Those are enabled, and they seem to wake the machine every couple hours regularly. But I don't think you can cause a forced power off via software short of a BSOD.

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                    • L lewax00

                      dusty_dex wrote:

                      None of the replies (so far) have suggested this, but it could be network 'magic packets' that are able to wake your machine (WOL) to do admin/maintenance.

                      Those are enabled, and they seem to wake the machine every couple hours regularly. But I don't think you can cause a forced power off via software short of a BSOD.

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                      What does the Event Log say exactly? Windows scripts can power-down/reboot remote machines *if* the policy is in place to allow that.

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                        What does the Event Log say exactly? Windows scripts can power-down/reboot remote machines *if* the policy is in place to allow that.

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                        Level: Critical Source: Kernel-Power Description: The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly. (Also, reviewing the logs, "SleepInProgess" is true for all of them, this implies the computer was still asleep when these happened.)

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                        • L lewax00

                          Level: Critical Source: Kernel-Power Description: The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly. (Also, reviewing the logs, "SleepInProgess" is true for all of them, this implies the computer was still asleep when these happened.)

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                          lewax00 wrote:

                          this implies the computer was still asleep when these happened

                          Maybe the computer is having bad dreams, causing it to crash. :)


                          Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.

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                            lewax00 wrote:

                            this implies the computer was still asleep when these happened

                            Maybe the computer is having bad dreams, causing it to crash. :)


                            Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.

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                            Do computers dream of downloaded sheep?

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                              Do computers dream of downloaded sheep?

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                              lewax00 wrote:

                              Do computers dream of downloaded sheep?

                              That's scary...What would the computer do to those poor sheep. :rolleyes:


                              Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.

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                                lewax00 wrote:

                                Do computers dream of downloaded sheep?

                                That's scary...What would the computer do to those poor sheep. :rolleyes:


                                Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.

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                                OriginalSin?

                                Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                                  OriginalSin?

                                  Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                                  AspDotNetDev wrote:

                                  OriginalSin?

                                  Nah, the folks in Iowa started that... :baaaa!: :laugh:


                                  Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.

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                                    OriginalSin?

                                    Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                                    Good one. :laugh:

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                                    • L lewax00

                                      It's not Windows Update, it's listed as an unexpected power loss (the log event that is added when the plug is pulled, the power button is held down, etc.). Scheduled defrag is plausible. And it is way too consistent in timing to believe it's a human.

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                                      Unexpected power loss? Back in the day we had a very similar issue with a machine which was being used as a print server. Turned out the cleaning lady would unplug it to plug in her vacuum cleaner!

                                      MVVM # - I did it My Way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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                                      • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                                        Do you have cleaners in your office? They might be unplugging your computer to plug in the vacuum.


                                        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                                        Should have read this before posting above :-O

                                        MVVM # - I did it My Way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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                                        • A AspDotNetDev

                                          OriginalSin?

                                          Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                                          [Original sin] That's when you purposely spill hot hamburger juice on your keyboard, have to dissasemble it in order to find out that the plastic under the keys has melted the trace borders, and now, after rifling the state of Michigan for another plastic switch you find there's no suitable replacement to get it to work again so you don't even bother to put the whole thing back together. [/Original sin]

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