Useless project, and they need it yesterday
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I have a customer wanting me to write a special import that they will only use twice a year with less than 50 records per run. I remember discussing this with the trainer last week and arguing against it, ending the conversation sarcastically...'sure, I can spend 4 hours to build it, it will probably take half an hour to install/configure it for the customer, OR, they can spend 5 minutes each month to key it in manually.' Apparently, the sarcasm was wasted, and the customer has been promised a new import...most likely will be a one-off! Me and my big mouth!!! :doh:
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
Is the customer paying for it? Then why do you care how often they will use it? Just code it!
It's an OO world.
public class Naerling : Lazy<Person>{
public void DoWork(){ throw new NotImplementedException(); }
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Is the customer paying for it? Then why do you care how often they will use it? Just code it!
It's an OO world.
public class Naerling : Lazy<Person>{
public void DoWork(){ throw new NotImplementedException(); }
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Ironically, it actually proves that he should do it. Since the improvement will only cost 4.5 hours, it falls under the 5 hours window. Of course, he'll have to have this process running for at least five years.
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:thumbsup: If they are paying for it and they want future functionality added, that is more money ;)
"I've seen more information on a frickin' sticky note!" - Dave Kreskowiak
Mo money = Mo problems = Mo work = Mo money = Mo problems = Mo work... ;p
It's an OO world.
public class Naerling : Lazy<Person>{
public void DoWork(){ throw new NotImplementedException(); }
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I have a customer wanting me to write a special import that they will only use twice a year with less than 50 records per run. I remember discussing this with the trainer last week and arguing against it, ending the conversation sarcastically...'sure, I can spend 4 hours to build it, it will probably take half an hour to install/configure it for the customer, OR, they can spend 5 minutes each month to key it in manually.' Apparently, the sarcasm was wasted, and the customer has been promised a new import...most likely will be a one-off! Me and my big mouth!!! :doh:
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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Mo money = Mo problems = Mo work = Mo money = Mo problems = Mo work... ;p
It's an OO world.
public class Naerling : Lazy<Person>{
public void DoWork(){ throw new NotImplementedException(); }
}:laugh:
"I've seen more information on a frickin' sticky note!" - Dave Kreskowiak
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Mo money = Mo problems = Mo work = Mo money = Mo problems = Mo work... ;p
It's an OO world.
public class Naerling : Lazy<Person>{
public void DoWork(){ throw new NotImplementedException(); }
}Except it's more like: Mo work = Mo money = Mo problems = Bad reputation = No work = No money = No problems
Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln
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Except it's more like: Mo work = Mo money = Mo problems = Bad reputation = No work = No money = No problems
Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln
I don't know, I know of ex-coworkers who are counterexamples (crap work = no effect on reputation = mo work = mo money).
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I have a customer wanting me to write a special import that they will only use twice a year with less than 50 records per run. I remember discussing this with the trainer last week and arguing against it, ending the conversation sarcastically...'sure, I can spend 4 hours to build it, it will probably take half an hour to install/configure it for the customer, OR, they can spend 5 minutes each month to key it in manually.' Apparently, the sarcasm was wasted, and the customer has been promised a new import...most likely will be a one-off! Me and my big mouth!!! :doh:
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
I spend a good deal of my time trying to talk those people out of apps. Right now, I'm "converting" an overly complicated Access "program" to ASP.NET. Yeah, like we really need to go through all this so 10 people can do it on a web page. Web pages are cool...or something.
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I have a customer wanting me to write a special import that they will only use twice a year with less than 50 records per run. I remember discussing this with the trainer last week and arguing against it, ending the conversation sarcastically...'sure, I can spend 4 hours to build it, it will probably take half an hour to install/configure it for the customer, OR, they can spend 5 minutes each month to key it in manually.' Apparently, the sarcasm was wasted, and the customer has been promised a new import...most likely will be a one-off! Me and my big mouth!!! :doh:
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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Waste of time... There are no dealers in Arizona, Nevada, or the Peoples' Republic of California. Grrr....
Will Rogers never met me.
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I have a customer wanting me to write a special import that they will only use twice a year with less than 50 records per run. I remember discussing this with the trainer last week and arguing against it, ending the conversation sarcastically...'sure, I can spend 4 hours to build it, it will probably take half an hour to install/configure it for the customer, OR, they can spend 5 minutes each month to key it in manually.' Apparently, the sarcasm was wasted, and the customer has been promised a new import...most likely will be a one-off! Me and my big mouth!!! :doh:
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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I don't know, I know of ex-coworkers who are counterexamples (crap work = no effect on reputation = mo work = mo money).
I hate them too.
Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln
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I have a customer wanting me to write a special import that they will only use twice a year with less than 50 records per run. I remember discussing this with the trainer last week and arguing against it, ending the conversation sarcastically...'sure, I can spend 4 hours to build it, it will probably take half an hour to install/configure it for the customer, OR, they can spend 5 minutes each month to key it in manually.' Apparently, the sarcasm was wasted, and the customer has been promised a new import...most likely will be a one-off! Me and my big mouth!!! :doh:
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
Obviously you weren't in the military..."Don't volunteer for anything"! :)
VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.1 ToDo Manager Extension Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.
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Keep in mind what happens when the customers have everything they need and do not want any more new features.
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I have a customer wanting me to write a special import that they will only use twice a year with less than 50 records per run. I remember discussing this with the trainer last week and arguing against it, ending the conversation sarcastically...'sure, I can spend 4 hours to build it, it will probably take half an hour to install/configure it for the customer, OR, they can spend 5 minutes each month to key it in manually.' Apparently, the sarcasm was wasted, and the customer has been promised a new import...most likely will be a one-off! Me and my big mouth!!! :doh:
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
Why are you complaining? At least you're employed. Where I work, they've been working since January on a dashboard (in SharePoint 2007) for one of our products. The guy in charge of the company was getting a bit annoyed at the fact that after six months, they didn't have so much as a mockup ready to show. So a PM asked me to do a quick-and-dirty proof-of-concept kinda thing in ASP.Net. Halfway through the effort, I was informed that it was NOT a proof-of-concept, and that it was going live as soon as I was done with it and would be used until the SharePoint effort was completed. In two weeks (mostly because it took a week to get access to a production database), I was done with the code and had the site deployed, and at least the PMs are happy. My boss is relieved that it's over because his boss got all twisted over the duplication of effort (Sharepoint and asp.net). There were no requirements (written down), and I'm sure this unofficial project is going to haunt me for a year or more. As an aside, some of the data required for the site doesn't live in the database where it belongs, and instead exists as as a series of about 2000 small HTML files. Since we would have to manually enter this data into the database, and submitting a change request for a production database is a pain in the ass, I'm simply putting the data BY HAND into a XML file and loading that into the application cache. I'm about halfway done with that. Do I care? Not really. I have a job, and that's what matters. My advice is to be a man, hunker down, do the work, and stop whining.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
Except it's more like: Mo work = Mo money = Mo problems = Bad reputation = No work = No money = No problems
Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES! Abraham Lincoln
I think what he meant to put was: Mo work = Mo money = Mo features = Mo work = Mo money = Mo features ad infinitum I once got a project to produce a 1 page summary report - 6 years later...
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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Your mistake was the "us vs them" mentality. Everything else sounds great. Good job estimating btw, that gives the business a quick way to figure out the ROI and determine the value of the project.
