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  • T Tim Carmichael

    Without starting a flame war or bashing session... What is the first language you learned: verbal and coding Do you still use either on a regular basis? Why or why not? Canadian English and Commodore BASIC Living in the Southern U.S., I still speak English, but, admittedly, it has been... adjusted to use local terms (Y'all, All y'all, you'n's). I still use BASIC variants (VBA mostly in Excel or third party applications), but haven't used any Commodore products since about the late '90s.

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    snorkie
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    English and BASIC

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    • T Tim Carmichael

      Without starting a flame war or bashing session... What is the first language you learned: verbal and coding Do you still use either on a regular basis? Why or why not? Canadian English and Commodore BASIC Living in the Southern U.S., I still speak English, but, admittedly, it has been... adjusted to use local terms (Y'all, All y'all, you'n's). I still use BASIC variants (VBA mostly in Excel or third party applications), but haven't used any Commodore products since about the late '90s.

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      jeron1
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      English and IBM BASIC. God I hated programming in that language, though I think the instructor ("Just use a goto!") had more to do with that than anything. I then learned FORTRAN and the sky became blue and all was right with the world. Now mostly C++, assembly (MIPS), with some C#.

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      • T Tim Carmichael

        Without starting a flame war or bashing session... What is the first language you learned: verbal and coding Do you still use either on a regular basis? Why or why not? Canadian English and Commodore BASIC Living in the Southern U.S., I still speak English, but, admittedly, it has been... adjusted to use local terms (Y'all, All y'all, you'n's). I still use BASIC variants (VBA mostly in Excel or third party applications), but haven't used any Commodore products since about the late '90s.

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        Marc Clifton
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        German and some ancient version of BASIC on a PDP/11. Marc

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        • T Tim Carmichael

          Without starting a flame war or bashing session... What is the first language you learned: verbal and coding Do you still use either on a regular basis? Why or why not? Canadian English and Commodore BASIC Living in the Southern U.S., I still speak English, but, admittedly, it has been... adjusted to use local terms (Y'all, All y'all, you'n's). I still use BASIC variants (VBA mostly in Excel or third party applications), but haven't used any Commodore products since about the late '90s.

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          R Giskard Reventlov
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          English (both the Queen's and the POTUS) and Commodore BASIC.

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          • T thatraja

            English & HTML

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            Marc Clifton
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            thatraja wrote:

            English & HTML

            HTML isn't a language. It's an abomination. ;) Marc

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            • J jeron1

              English and IBM BASIC. God I hated programming in that language, though I think the instructor ("Just use a goto!") had more to do with that than anything. I then learned FORTRAN and the sky became blue and all was right with the world. Now mostly C++, assembly (MIPS), with some C#.

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              Matthew Faithfull
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              There's not too many MIPS assembly programmers out there. I wonder how much do you know and how much time do you have? I wonder these things because I have a JIT assembler about to go live as a Code Project article. It's a reasonable OO design divided between generic base classes and x86 sub classes. Any one really familiar with MIPS assembly and reasonable with C++ could follow the pattern used for x86 and add MIPS support for the low level assembler at least. Let me know if you're interested.

              "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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              • T Tim Carmichael

                Without starting a flame war or bashing session... What is the first language you learned: verbal and coding Do you still use either on a regular basis? Why or why not? Canadian English and Commodore BASIC Living in the Southern U.S., I still speak English, but, admittedly, it has been... adjusted to use local terms (Y'all, All y'all, you'n's). I still use BASIC variants (VBA mostly in Excel or third party applications), but haven't used any Commodore products since about the late '90s.

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                Marc A Brown
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                American English/Apple BASIC.

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                • T Tim Carmichael

                  Without starting a flame war or bashing session... What is the first language you learned: verbal and coding Do you still use either on a regular basis? Why or why not? Canadian English and Commodore BASIC Living in the Southern U.S., I still speak English, but, admittedly, it has been... adjusted to use local terms (Y'all, All y'all, you'n's). I still use BASIC variants (VBA mostly in Excel or third party applications), but haven't used any Commodore products since about the late '90s.

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                  Ravi Bhavnani
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                  English and Pascal. I use English and C# on a regular basis. /ravi

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                  • T Tim Carmichael

                    Without starting a flame war or bashing session... What is the first language you learned: verbal and coding Do you still use either on a regular basis? Why or why not? Canadian English and Commodore BASIC Living in the Southern U.S., I still speak English, but, admittedly, it has been... adjusted to use local terms (Y'all, All y'all, you'n's). I still use BASIC variants (VBA mostly in Excel or third party applications), but haven't used any Commodore products since about the late '90s.

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                    1A) I speak Greek. Problem is, all languages, 'cept American, are "greek" to me. 2A) BASIC 1B) I still speak Greek, with the same caveat as previous noted. 2B) C# :cool:

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                    • M Matthew Faithfull

                      There's not too many MIPS assembly programmers out there. I wonder how much do you know and how much time do you have? I wonder these things because I have a JIT assembler about to go live as a Code Project article. It's a reasonable OO design divided between generic base classes and x86 sub classes. Any one really familiar with MIPS assembly and reasonable with C++ could follow the pattern used for x86 and add MIPS support for the low level assembler at least. Let me know if you're interested.

                      "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                      Lost User
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                      An OO design? What do the classes do? I made a JIT assembler for C#, but the design was basically a 2k LOC "Switch of Doom" with some support functions for ModR/M encoding and such.

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                      • T Tim Carmichael

                        Without starting a flame war or bashing session... What is the first language you learned: verbal and coding Do you still use either on a regular basis? Why or why not? Canadian English and Commodore BASIC Living in the Southern U.S., I still speak English, but, admittedly, it has been... adjusted to use local terms (Y'all, All y'all, you'n's). I still use BASIC variants (VBA mostly in Excel or third party applications), but haven't used any Commodore products since about the late '90s.

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                        DanielSheets
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                        English and Tandy Color Computer III BASIC. BASIC -> C -> Assembler -> Pascal -> C++ -> Prolog -> Java -> C# (Not necessarily in this order) With National Instruments' LabVIEW thrown in there too.

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                        • L Lost User

                          An OO design? What do the classes do? I made a JIT assembler for C#, but the design was basically a 2k LOC "Switch of Doom" with some support functions for ModR/M encoding and such.

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                          Matthew Faithfull
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                          :laugh: You'll have to wait for the article to find out. As with all good OO code the classes do all of it. There's a low level and a high level assembler, full FPU and MMX support up to SSE4.2. ~24 KLOC. It's all based on AsmJit with the coolest part I've added being JIT functors. I just love calling a function that doesn't exist when I call it and have it work :-D

                          "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                          • E Erudite_Eric

                            Is there any point to this question? (given 90% responding with English and BASIC)

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                            thrakazog
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                            Alright fine. Klingon and LOLCODE[^]

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                            • M MacSpudster

                              1A) I speak Greek. Problem is, all languages, 'cept American, are "greek" to me. 2A) BASIC 1B) I still speak Greek, with the same caveat as previous noted. 2B) C# :cool:

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                              Andrew Rissing
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                              Έτσι, αυτό είναι ελληνικά σε σας; [So, is this Greek to you?]

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                              • M Matthew Faithfull

                                There's not too many MIPS assembly programmers out there. I wonder how much do you know and how much time do you have? I wonder these things because I have a JIT assembler about to go live as a Code Project article. It's a reasonable OO design divided between generic base classes and x86 sub classes. Any one really familiar with MIPS assembly and reasonable with C++ could follow the pattern used for x86 and add MIPS support for the low level assembler at least. Let me know if you're interested.

                                "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                                Colin Mullikin
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                                Matthew Faithfull wrote:

                                There's not too many MIPS assembly programmers out there.

                                I learned it in college and while they were teaching it to us they told us, "You will never use this ever again." :doh:

                                The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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                                • T Tim Carmichael

                                  Without starting a flame war or bashing session... What is the first language you learned: verbal and coding Do you still use either on a regular basis? Why or why not? Canadian English and Commodore BASIC Living in the Southern U.S., I still speak English, but, admittedly, it has been... adjusted to use local terms (Y'all, All y'all, you'n's). I still use BASIC variants (VBA mostly in Excel or third party applications), but haven't used any Commodore products since about the late '90s.

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                                  Colin Mullikin
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                                  English and Java. Obviously I still use English, but I don't really use Java a whole lot anymore. I use Delphi for work.

                                  The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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                                  • T Tim Carmichael

                                    Without starting a flame war or bashing session... What is the first language you learned: verbal and coding Do you still use either on a regular basis? Why or why not? Canadian English and Commodore BASIC Living in the Southern U.S., I still speak English, but, admittedly, it has been... adjusted to use local terms (Y'all, All y'all, you'n's). I still use BASIC variants (VBA mostly in Excel or third party applications), but haven't used any Commodore products since about the late '90s.

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                                    Ron Anders
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                                    English and Assembly Language. I still speak only English and code in C/C++ which is close enough to the hardware for me so far. Although "beating the system" by saving an instruction or two while achieving the same results in assembly was always rewarding.

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                                    • C Colin Mullikin

                                      Matthew Faithfull wrote:

                                      There's not too many MIPS assembly programmers out there.

                                      I learned it in college and while they were teaching it to us they told us, "You will never use this ever again." :doh:

                                      The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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                                      Matthew Faithfull
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                                      At least they were honest, my M68000 assembly lecturer swore that we weren't wasting our time :rolleyes:

                                      "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                                      • M Matthew Faithfull

                                        :laugh: You'll have to wait for the article to find out. As with all good OO code the classes do all of it. There's a low level and a high level assembler, full FPU and MMX support up to SSE4.2. ~24 KLOC. It's all based on AsmJit with the coolest part I've added being JIT functors. I just love calling a function that doesn't exist when I call it and have it work :-D

                                        "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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                                        Lost User
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                                        Are you planning to add AVX2 at some point?

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                                        • L Lost User

                                          Are you planning to add AVX2 at some point?

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                                          Matthew Faithfull
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                                          Clearly that would be after adding AVX but yes it can be added easily enough if I can get hold of the necessary information, register details, opcodes, instructions and any usage rules. It should be a few days work if it doesn't introduce a new register type, quite a few days if it does. The only problem I can forsee might be the lack of a 128bit numeric type in C++ if as I assume AVX has gone to 128bit SIMD or larger. However that can be worked around. ... Looking a bit deeper the new wider 256 bit registers won't be an issue because were already handling 128 bits for XMM although the YMM type will take a few days to work through all the cases but the new VEX coding scheme might require some non trivial code changes. Hmm more to add to the TODO: section of the article and it isn't even submitted yet.

                                          "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

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