You'd think they'd know better
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Clodetta del Mar wrote:
the Problem relating Religion here is:
since ancient history the People tend to bind OTHERS to their belief....Not sure. I think the problem is the people themselves, who have some switch set in their brains that makes them think that they are right no matter what, and that nothing they do in the cause of promoting their rightness is unjustified. I dare say this particular monster, if he were a developer, would be calling for the murder of people who put braces on new lines (or who don't, depending on which one he believes is right).
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
that was what i meant whith Equilibrium: if you are Content with your Religion, what does the opinion of others do [maybe again negatively] influence it? why wasting time with thinking about what others do care about? if one finds others that share the same opinion, ok! cool if not, at leat you have the Chance to talk with them about it and try to argue... why rush it that the opposite will adopt your Persuasion? :confused:
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Matthew Faithfull wrote:
That is of course only a problem if it is abhorrent in your belief system
abhorrence is Rating. i do not feel the Need to rate other´s opinion(s)... everybody can do/belief/etc what she wants to... as Long as others are not negatively influenced by it... (porn, Children-abuse, women-abuse and so forth) if it is "well-formatted", one can argue, but with primitve things like bows/guns/Waepons at all there´s no Need to talk at least.. sad Thing.... really! :((
Clodetta del Mar wrote:
everybody can do/belief/etc what she wants to... as Long as others are not negatively influenced by it...
Which is your very reasonable belief but not a belief that is universally shared. Person A believes: Everybody can believe what she wants to... as Long as others are not negatively influenced by it. Person B believes: Everybody must believe X because it is better for them to believe X than to have the choice of what to believe. If Person B goes about imposing his belief in X then he is following his belief system, behaving consistently. He may be right or wrong but logic cannot determine this. If Person A complains saying that Person B is wrong then he IS trying to impose his belief system on Person B. He is in contradiction with his own belief system and behaving inconsistently. Logic says he is wrong regardless of what belief X actually is. In the end the disagreement is a moral judgement about what is negative influence but if you believe that trying to get anyone to believe as you do, proselytizing, is inherently wrong then you logically exclude yourself from any such debate.
"The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)
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Abubakar Shekau said schools would continue to be targeted "until our last breath" Nice of him to provide the solution.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
"until our last breath" what he really means is "my followers last breath, not mine if I can help it"
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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Clodetta del Mar wrote:
everybody can do/belief/etc what she wants to... as Long as others are not negatively influenced by it...
Which is your very reasonable belief but not a belief that is universally shared. Person A believes: Everybody can believe what she wants to... as Long as others are not negatively influenced by it. Person B believes: Everybody must believe X because it is better for them to believe X than to have the choice of what to believe. If Person B goes about imposing his belief in X then he is following his belief system, behaving consistently. He may be right or wrong but logic cannot determine this. If Person A complains saying that Person B is wrong then he IS trying to impose his belief system on Person B. He is in contradiction with his own belief system and behaving inconsistently. Logic says he is wrong regardless of what belief X actually is. In the end the disagreement is a moral judgement about what is negative influence but if you believe that trying to get anyone to believe as you do, proselytizing, is inherently wrong then you logically exclude yourself from any such debate.
"The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)
actually you got it a nutshell... :thumbsup: but, i must Counter again, Person B is - as far as i can judge it - on the "failure trail" maybe some sort of under-employment occured to it? Person B mustn´t think about other´s Needs.. why? does it make your belief System work different if there are tens of hundreds that follow your belief instead of tens of twenty? :doh: :doh: ok, why not founding a new Religion? :confused:
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Abubakar Shekau said schools would continue to be targeted "until our last breath" Nice of him to provide the solution.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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+5 it makes me guessing that Religion at all makes some sort of stupid... :~
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it makes me guessing that Religion at all makes some sort of stupid...
You can't possibly compare this religion to all other religions and make a generalized statement like that.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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it makes me guessing that Religion at all makes some sort of stupid...
You can't possibly compare this religion to all other religions and make a generalized statement like that.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
Of course you can. They're pretty much identical. The only thing different is who preaches and what they want to preach. I think Christianity 1k years ago was pretty much what Islam is now in some countries, immoral, self righteous, bent on enslaving people by denying education. Noticing this paints a clear picture on how much humans can corrupt such a simple and peaceful message presented by some religions. The created the holy books, they distort the holy books because they can't admit the message itself is distorted by the writers human nature/culture/experiences, they change everything to just fit how they BELIEVE their thing should be.
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it makes me guessing that Religion at all makes some sort of stupid...
You can't possibly compare this religion to all other religions and make a generalized statement like that.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
at least: you saw, i´m able to do that... :suss:
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it makes me guessing that Religion at all makes some sort of stupid...
You can't possibly compare this religion to all other religions and make a generalized statement like that.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Of course you can. They're pretty much identical. The only thing different is who preaches and what they want to preach. I think Christianity 1k years ago was pretty much what Islam is now in some countries, immoral, self righteous, bent on enslaving people by denying education. Noticing this paints a clear picture on how much humans can corrupt such a simple and peaceful message presented by some religions. The created the holy books, they distort the holy books because they can't admit the message itself is distorted by the writers human nature/culture/experiences, they change everything to just fit how they BELIEVE their thing should be.
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Kill teachers and students who learn stuff[^] Yes, because if they know stuff they will be too clever to believe all that bollocks. However, my main rant is that they have changed a lot in the 40 odd years since "A Whiter Shade Of Pale".
--------------------------------- Obscurum per obscurius. Ad astra per alas porci. Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur. CCC Link[^] Can you Help?
Dalek Dave wrote:
However, my main rant is that they have changed a lot in the 40 odd years since "A Whiter Shade Of Pale".
I too prefer their earlier, less jihadist, work.
PB 369,783 wrote:
I just find him very unlikeable, and I think the way he looks like a prettier version of his Mum is very disturbing.[^]
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Actually you kind of can. See Average intelligence predicts atheism rates across 137 nations[^] or similar studies.
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And? Other religions are preaching violence? That is, after all, what the post was about. Intelligence and wisdom are not at all the same thing.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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And as I said, stupid and intelligence are not necessarily opposites. Plenty of people with lots of intelligence are pretty dumb.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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They're pretty much identical
What other religion today is preaching violence? From your statement you are claiming they all are, which is absurd.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
ryanb31 wrote:
What other religion today is preaching violence? From your statement you are claiming they all are, which is absurd.
:rolleyes: Haven't you heard of those murderous axe wielding Buddhists? They are renowned for their acts of extreme violence aren't they? ;)
"State acheived after eating too many chocolate-covered coconut bars - bountiful" Chris C-B
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Kill teachers and students who learn stuff[^] Yes, because if they know stuff they will be too clever to believe all that bollocks. However, my main rant is that they have changed a lot in the 40 odd years since "A Whiter Shade Of Pale".
--------------------------------- Obscurum per obscurius. Ad astra per alas porci. Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur. CCC Link[^] Can you Help?
I'm going to have to side with Abubakar Shekau. I think our current form of education is inherently destructive. Their society would do well to skip the whole 'post modern' phase.
Dalek Dave wrote:
Yes, because if they know stuff they will be too clever to believe all that bollocks.
Yes, our kids are so clever they believe absolutely nothing at all. Kids who believe nothing at all are the natural tools of tyrants. I got a feeling Abubakar Shekau's people are going to be around long after our people are gone.
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ryanb31 wrote:
What other religion today is preaching violence? From your statement you are claiming they all are, which is absurd.
:rolleyes: Haven't you heard of those murderous axe wielding Buddhists? They are renowned for their acts of extreme violence aren't they? ;)
"State acheived after eating too many chocolate-covered coconut bars - bountiful" Chris C-B
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No, but I think I may become violent when people continue to think that all religions are like the fanatic ones being reported. :)
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
Violence is never the answer ... unless the question is 'name an eight letter word beginning with 'v' that means fighting'. :-D
"State acheived after eating too many chocolate-covered coconut bars - bountiful" Chris C-B