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  • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

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    Under the proposal, hunters could legally shoot down a drone flying under 1,000 feet with a 12-gauge or smaller shotgun.

    Only problem is a shotgun is only effective at close range. Now if they allowed 50 Cal that would be very sporting! :)

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    Pualee
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    You've never shot a slug through a rifled barrel? Still not the same as a rifle, but not necessarily short range either.

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      Get one of these: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4ebtj1jR7c[^]

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      Mike Hankey
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      Awesome weapon! I read the article before drinking my first cup of coffee and thought it said it was legal to shoot >1000ft when in fact it is <1000ft.. The armor piercing grenades could handle that nicely.

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        You've never shot a slug through a rifled barrel? Still not the same as a rifle, but not necessarily short range either.

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        Mike Hankey
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        Pualee wrote:

        You've never shot a slug through a rifled barrel?

        Yes but range is still limited.

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          http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/18/colorado-town-ponders-drone-bounty[^] I can already see hunting lodges decorating their walls with the stuffed and mounted noses of UAVs.

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          RJOberg
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          Under the proposal, hunters could legally shoot down a drone flying under 1,000 feet with a 12-gauge or smaller shotgun.

          So, what the town council is saying is that you can legally shoot down drones or model airplanes that might have a camera on them, piloted by private citizens. However, this will not affect the government's use of drones. Outside of the smaller hand launched tactical UAVs the military uses, their drones are not likely to be that low. A quick scan showed that most of the US Government's drones have a 5000ft or higher ceiling and cameras designed for that distance. Above 400 feet you need a special permit from the FAA anyway. The place is a farming, ranching, and hunting town. They don't want PETA showing up with drones like they did in Pennsylvania and South Carolina. I feel like it doesn't have anything to do with preventing a surveillance state.

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            Under the proposal, hunters could legally shoot down a drone flying under 1,000 feet with a 12-gauge or smaller shotgun.

            So, what the town council is saying is that you can legally shoot down drones or model airplanes that might have a camera on them, piloted by private citizens. However, this will not affect the government's use of drones. Outside of the smaller hand launched tactical UAVs the military uses, their drones are not likely to be that low. A quick scan showed that most of the US Government's drones have a 5000ft or higher ceiling and cameras designed for that distance. Above 400 feet you need a special permit from the FAA anyway. The place is a farming, ranching, and hunting town. They don't want PETA showing up with drones like they did in Pennsylvania and South Carolina. I feel like it doesn't have anything to do with preventing a surveillance state.

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            GenJerDan
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            It's not seriously meant to directly affect the use of drones. It's just a rather pointed message to the PTB that we are not amused.

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              It's not seriously meant to directly affect the use of drones. It's just a rather pointed message to the PTB that we are not amused.

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              RJOberg
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              Perhaps it is a shot at the PTB, perhaps it is both. Tell the government that we don't appreciate spying on its own and tell extremist animal rights activists that if they show up with drones they will be shot out of the sky. I have have a different view of ranchers and farmers. My fiancee works in the cattle industry on the pharmaceutical side of things. The only people that ranchers seem to dislike more than the government is PETA and their ilk. Most people don't have a clue why the industry is the way it is. The pork and poultry industry is doing fabulous things and almost all of it is self regulated. The cattle industry not so much. While there are some bad eggs, the majority of them actually care about the well being of their pigs/cows/etc. Poor treatment results in poor sales due to poor quality. The same is true about any industry. Not to get on a political tangent, but one of the local suppliers she dealt with actually closed up shop and left the industry when Romney lost. Apparently the livestock, bacteria, parasites, and viruses, must have cared who we elected president.

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                Perhaps it is a shot at the PTB, perhaps it is both. Tell the government that we don't appreciate spying on its own and tell extremist animal rights activists that if they show up with drones they will be shot out of the sky. I have have a different view of ranchers and farmers. My fiancee works in the cattle industry on the pharmaceutical side of things. The only people that ranchers seem to dislike more than the government is PETA and their ilk. Most people don't have a clue why the industry is the way it is. The pork and poultry industry is doing fabulous things and almost all of it is self regulated. The cattle industry not so much. While there are some bad eggs, the majority of them actually care about the well being of their pigs/cows/etc. Poor treatment results in poor sales due to poor quality. The same is true about any industry. Not to get on a political tangent, but one of the local suppliers she dealt with actually closed up shop and left the industry when Romney lost. Apparently the livestock, bacteria, parasites, and viruses, must have cared who we elected president.

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                GenJerDan
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                RJOberg wrote:

                Poor treatment results in poor sales due to poor quality. The same is true about any industry.

                True. Also it drives me crazy when people complain about this or that industry not caring about their customers enough to DO SOMETHING, so they insist that the Government has to DO SOMETHING. Right. I'm sure the goal of most industries is to kill off its customer base...

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                  You've never shot a slug through a rifled barrel? Still not the same as a rifle, but not necessarily short range either.

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                  Pualee wrote:

                  You've never shot a slug through a rifled barrel?

                  Do snails count?

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                    RJOberg wrote:

                    Poor treatment results in poor sales due to poor quality. The same is true about any industry.

                    True. Also it drives me crazy when people complain about this or that industry not caring about their customers enough to DO SOMETHING, so they insist that the Government has to DO SOMETHING. Right. I'm sure the goal of most industries is to kill off its customer base...

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                    Of course. If people took a moment to think they would realize the goal of most industries is to make money. However, sometimes the industry does need a nudge in the right direction. Case in point, when you vaccinate an animal, you are supposed to wait a predetermined amount of time until you slaughter and sell. Imagine you have an allergy to penicillin, animal is injected and slaughtered before it has time to work its way through the system. You get that meat which still has traces of the vaccine. In that case, the industry isn't trying to kill you, but it still might. Every pig at just about every pork farm (excluding smaller specialty free range farms) either has a scannable barcode or RFID chip. You scan that on a tablet, it pulls up that pig's life history. When every vaccine was given, every illness, etc. from day of birth. It also allows the person to see mother and father and have access to their history as well, etc. The cattle industry has access to the same technology, yet many ranchers are resistant to it and still handle all their stuff on paper or at the best on a spreadsheet if you are lucky. Some are moving to the digital system once they realize how much money it saves and how much safer it is for the animals, but the industry as a whole is resisting. What the pork producers are doing is purely to protect their investment and make a better profit. As we see with the current PED (porcine epidemic diarrhea, 100% fatal for them if contracted early) outbreak, one slip can wipe out an entire crop of piglets. Many of the sanitary precautions, tracking, and quality standards are not set by the government at all. They were set by the pork industry to ensure that they keep making money in a highly competitive market. I'll get off my soap box now.

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                    • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                      Quote:

                      Under the proposal, hunters could legally shoot down a drone flying under 1,000 feet with a 12-gauge or smaller shotgun.

                      Only problem is a shotgun is only effective at close range. Now if they allowed 50 Cal that would be very sporting! :)

                      VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.1 ToDo Manager Extension Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.

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                      Paul Conrad
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                      I saw that as well, and there should not be any restrictions on the type of weapon used ;P

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                        I saw that as well, and there should not be any restrictions on the type of weapon used ;P

                        "I've seen more information on a frickin' sticky note!" - Dave Kreskowiak

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                        Mike Hankey
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                        Paul Conrad wrote:

                        there should not be any restrictions on the type of weapon used

                        As long as you can still retrieve the necessary pieces to prove it was a drone. I'm thinking Stinger, but that would be for my own sport as there probably wouldn't be enough left to claim reward. :)

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