MSBuild is now part of Visual Studio!
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We made a number of exciting changes to MSBuild for Visual Studio 2013, including rethinking the fundamental relationship between MSBuild, Visual Studio, and the .NET Framework. MSBuild has shipped as a component of the .NET framework since it was first introduced in 2005 with .NET 2.0, despite the fact that it is, first and foremost, a development tool leveraged primarily by Visual Studio developers. Starting with Visual Studio 2013, the 2013 version of MSBuild will ship as a part of Visual Studio instead of the .NET Framework. This transition allows us to more rapidly evolve MSBuild.
Does this simplify your life, or complicate it further?
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We made a number of exciting changes to MSBuild for Visual Studio 2013, including rethinking the fundamental relationship between MSBuild, Visual Studio, and the .NET Framework. MSBuild has shipped as a component of the .NET framework since it was first introduced in 2005 with .NET 2.0, despite the fact that it is, first and foremost, a development tool leveraged primarily by Visual Studio developers. Starting with Visual Studio 2013, the 2013 version of MSBuild will ship as a part of Visual Studio instead of the .NET Framework. This transition allows us to more rapidly evolve MSBuild.
Does this simplify your life, or complicate it further?
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We made a number of exciting changes
I am the only one here that doesn't find any of the changes mentioned even a little bit exciting? The MSBuild now comes with VS instead of .NET? Who cares? You can't use VS unless you have .NET anyway so what difference does it really make? ...and, more importantly, how does this rate as being "exciting"? That's about as exciting as placing the cereal box at the left side of your shopping cart instead of the right side when shopping at the store!
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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We made a number of exciting changes
I am the only one here that doesn't find any of the changes mentioned even a little bit exciting? The MSBuild now comes with VS instead of .NET? Who cares? You can't use VS unless you have .NET anyway so what difference does it really make? ...and, more importantly, how does this rate as being "exciting"? That's about as exciting as placing the cereal box at the left side of your shopping cart instead of the right side when shopping at the store!
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
Its actually a problem for groups like SharpDevelop, that use the MSBuild framework to make their own IDE's. I also have an IDE geared towards very specific application development and this news kind of pisses me off since I'm now stuck in .NET 4.5 until I make my own build system, which is a rather large endeavor.
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Its actually a problem for groups like SharpDevelop, that use the MSBuild framework to make their own IDE's. I also have an IDE geared towards very specific application development and this news kind of pisses me off since I'm now stuck in .NET 4.5 until I make my own build system, which is a rather large endeavor.
Exactly - that's the point. You can do automated builds from command line without having Visual Studio installed (though msbuild resolves dependent projects differently than does VS). That won't be anymore possible in future.
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Exactly - that's the point. You can do automated builds from command line without having Visual Studio installed (though msbuild resolves dependent projects differently than does VS). That won't be anymore possible in future.
Bernhard Hiller wrote:
That won't be anymore possible in future.
Yes it will;
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We understand that there are a great number of reasons that you may want to use MSBuild and other build tools without needing to install Visual Studio so we are making the tools available as a new standalone package called Microsoft® Build Tools. The package includes MSBuild and the VB/C# compilers.
Preview of the build tools available from http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=39318[^]
People are more violently opposed to fur than leather because it's safer to harass rich women than motorcycle gangs
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Bernhard Hiller wrote:
That won't be anymore possible in future.
Yes it will;
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We understand that there are a great number of reasons that you may want to use MSBuild and other build tools without needing to install Visual Studio so we are making the tools available as a new standalone package called Microsoft® Build Tools. The package includes MSBuild and the VB/C# compilers.
Preview of the build tools available from http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=39318[^]
People are more violently opposed to fur than leather because it's safer to harass rich women than motorcycle gangs
That's good to know.