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  • E Erudite_Eric

    Increased productivity means an increase in relative wealth due to our ability to consume more goods. And yes, in every case they have increased productivity, from Farming to Medcine computers have had a massive effect. (Of course I include things like mobile phones as computers since they are part of the tech revoloution.)

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    And in the ability of companies to peddle insurance policies that no-one wants or needs. In the ability of companies to pump out as many different TV channels as no-one is able to or wants to consume. I wager fewer people work on systems that improve farming, or medicine, or such than work on systems pumping crap into the world.

    “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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      And in the ability of companies to peddle insurance policies that no-one wants or needs. In the ability of companies to pump out as many different TV channels as no-one is able to or wants to consume. I wager fewer people work on systems that improve farming, or medicine, or such than work on systems pumping crap into the world.

      “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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      Erudite_Eric
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      Indeed, all life has accelerated with the tech revoloution. And yes, much of my work has been in the world of the trivial. But it pays the bills. Cant complain.

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        Do the computers and systems you work on actually make your company, your country, the world in general better? Or do they just keep you employed and allow other hardware and software to be bought thus keeping others employed? The company I work for is 160 years old this year, they still do the same thing. Computers and computer systems are a fairly recent thing in comparison. Do they aid the company in fulfilling its aims in anyway? Or do they just keep loads of people employed whilst actually achieving no real benefit. What is the point of you?

        “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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        Maximilien
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        Yes and no. We offer/sell metrology inspection software to sub-contractor of the "Defense" sector (among other sectors and domain) ( for the joint strike fighter ) but also civilian sector to help increase quality (decrease cost) and eventually safety of airplanes (Airbus)

        I'd rather be phishing!

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        • E Erudite_Eric

          Indeed, all life has accelerated with the tech revoloution. And yes, much of my work has been in the world of the trivial. But it pays the bills. Cant complain.

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          I think I'd moan less if I worked somewhere more attractive. You get pissed off at work, go for a walk around Walsall at lunchtime, you're even more depressed when you get back.

          “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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            Do the computers and systems you work on actually make your company, your country, the world in general better? Or do they just keep you employed and allow other hardware and software to be bought thus keeping others employed? The company I work for is 160 years old this year, they still do the same thing. Computers and computer systems are a fairly recent thing in comparison. Do they aid the company in fulfilling its aims in anyway? Or do they just keep loads of people employed whilst actually achieving no real benefit. What is the point of you?

            “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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            Tim Carmichael
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            In my career, I've worked in three industries: food production, paper production and now utilities. Food production: yes, the computers improved the process and product by allowing automated production and removing the need for any human hands to actually touch the food from the point of delivery through end user use. Computers also allowed for expedited checking in the event of a potential contanimation - a mother called concerned her son who is very alergic to peanuts may have been accidentally exposed; we had 3 hours to reply; there was no contamination and the mother was very pleased. Paper production: computers allow for improved quality control and reduced costs; while we may not use paper as much as we used to, there are still valid uses for same. Utilities: automated data collection that can pinpoint power outages thereby reduces outage time and improving customers quality of life. So, yes, life is better both because of computers and the applications I have worked on. Tim

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              In my career, I've worked in three industries: food production, paper production and now utilities. Food production: yes, the computers improved the process and product by allowing automated production and removing the need for any human hands to actually touch the food from the point of delivery through end user use. Computers also allowed for expedited checking in the event of a potential contanimation - a mother called concerned her son who is very alergic to peanuts may have been accidentally exposed; we had 3 hours to reply; there was no contamination and the mother was very pleased. Paper production: computers allow for improved quality control and reduced costs; while we may not use paper as much as we used to, there are still valid uses for same. Utilities: automated data collection that can pinpoint power outages thereby reduces outage time and improving customers quality of life. So, yes, life is better both because of computers and the applications I have worked on. Tim

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              Tim Carmichael wrote:

              Food production: yes, the computers improved the process and product by allowing automated production and removing the need for any human hands to actually touch the food from the point of delivery through end user use.

              I think the benefits of processed food to the human race are a different argument.

              “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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                Do the computers and systems you work on actually make your company, your country, the world in general better? Or do they just keep you employed and allow other hardware and software to be bought thus keeping others employed? The company I work for is 160 years old this year, they still do the same thing. Computers and computer systems are a fairly recent thing in comparison. Do they aid the company in fulfilling its aims in anyway? Or do they just keep loads of people employed whilst actually achieving no real benefit. What is the point of you?

                “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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                Marc Clifton
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                ChrisElston wrote:

                What is the point of you?

                Well, given my work history, I'd have to say yes, though with regards to a certain industry I've worked in, in the past, certainly some people would say it has made the world a better place, while others not. However, I've also done some very unique work with a company that makes communication satellites, having solved some gnarly testing problems for them, which of course is technology that we all rely on nowadays. And currently I'm working on several websites for non-profit companies, one of which gather national statistics on midwives and demonstrates that having a midwife involved in the pregnancy / birth / post partum enhances the health of the mother and baby. Particularly true for single moms. So yes, what I'm doing in IT is making the world better. Marc

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                • L Lost User

                  My company designs software for use in various weapons systems (mainly targetting) So we keep you and your loved ones safe.

                  MVVM # - I did it My Way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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                  Marc Clifton
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                  _Maxxx_ wrote:

                  weapons systems

                  _Maxxx_ wrote:

                  So we keep you and your loved ones safe.

                  No comment. ;) Marc

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                    Tim Carmichael wrote:

                    Food production: yes, the computers improved the process and product by allowing automated production and removing the need for any human hands to actually touch the food from the point of delivery through end user use.

                    I think the benefits of processed food to the human race are a different argument.

                    “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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                    The food was cereal if that helps at all. Although I no longer work there, I still purchase their products because I know the quality of the product.

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                      The food was cereal if that helps at all. Although I no longer work there, I still purchase their products because I know the quality of the product.

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                      Ah, the good stuff[^]

                      Quote:

                      The rise of breakfast cereal makes a revealing case study in the evolutionary process behind the modern diet. One of the earliest convenience foods, processed cereals represents a triumph of marketing, packaging and US economic and foreign policy. They are the epitome of cheap commodity converted by manufacturing to higher value goods; of agricultural surplus turned into profitable export. Their ingredients have a disconcerting overlap with my cat food. Somehow they have wormed into our confused consciousness as intrinsically healthy when by and large they are degraded foods that have to have any goodness artificially restored. I have long been intrigued by how the British breakfast was conquered and what it tells us about the rest of our food. For this is the elephant in the room of course: it is the industrial processing of food that is the real problem. To understand where not we, but rather it, all went wrong, you have to understand the economic and political structures behind today's food system.

                      “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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                      • S S Houghtelin

                        My company invents and manufactures medical monitoring devices. The stuff we make helps people stay alive, and live better lives. I work in research and I am allowed a lot of latitude in regards to how I approach problems and solutions to health conditions that were impossible or painful to monitor even a few years ago. (I don't have to color between the lines :D), I have been involved in the inception of some pretty awesome products. Yes, I think my job and my company are worthwhile. :)

                        It was broke, so I fixed it.

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                        Marco Bertschi
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                        S Houghtelin wrote:

                        The stuff we make helps people stay alive, and live better lives.

                        Same here, my company does medical diagnostic devices which helps medical personnel to find out what a patient is suffering from and which treatment fits am best and extends his life span the most or cures him with the fewest possible side effects and most efficient. Without our instruments doctors would still analyse bacteria under a microscope and use weed as treatment against cancer.

                        :bob:


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                          S Houghtelin wrote:

                          The stuff we make helps people stay alive, and live better lives.

                          Same here, my company does medical diagnostic devices which helps medical personnel to find out what a patient is suffering from and which treatment fits am best and extends his life span the most or cures him with the fewest possible side effects and most efficient. Without our instruments doctors would still analyse bacteria under a microscope and use weed as treatment against cancer.

                          :bob:


                          CodeProject 10 Million members celebration meetup - Switzerland

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                          Leroy Gibbs wrote:

                          which treatment fits am best and extends his life span the most

                          Ah, but the world is massively overpopulated, in fact that is the biggest problem the human world faces. You think you are doing good, but you are part of the problem :)

                          “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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                            I think I'd moan less if I worked somewhere more attractive. You get pissed off at work, go for a walk around Walsall at lunchtime, you're even more depressed when you get back.

                            “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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                            Erudite_Eric
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                            Doesnt look too bad, Walsall. Reminds me a bit of Leuven, well, the side streets of Leuven, and that had some good bars and resrtaurants.

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                              Doesnt look too bad, Walsall. Reminds me a bit of Leuven, well, the side streets of Leuven, and that had some good bars and resrtaurants.

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                              Lost User
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                              Erudite_Eric wrote:

                              and that had some good bars and resrtaurants.

                              None that I know of around here[^]

                              “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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                                Erudite_Eric wrote:

                                and that had some good bars and resrtaurants.

                                None that I know of around here[^]

                                “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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                                Erudite_Eric
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                                Ha, looks can be deceiving! If there arent any good bars or restos then it needs some development.

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                                • L Lost User

                                  Do the computers and systems you work on actually make your company, your country, the world in general better? Or do they just keep you employed and allow other hardware and software to be bought thus keeping others employed? The company I work for is 160 years old this year, they still do the same thing. Computers and computer systems are a fairly recent thing in comparison. Do they aid the company in fulfilling its aims in anyway? Or do they just keep loads of people employed whilst actually achieving no real benefit. What is the point of you?

                                  “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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                                  Roger Wright
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                                  Everything that I do, every single day, is vitally important to the continuing survival of the human race, even though I'm very poorly paid and under-appreciated. You're welcome.

                                  Will Rogers never met me.

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                                    Everything that I do, every single day, is vitally important to the continuing survival of the human race, even though I'm very poorly paid and under-appreciated. You're welcome.

                                    Will Rogers never met me.

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                                    Lost User
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                                    Bravo. I know you can't see this, but I'm stood up and saluting you right now. :-D

                                    “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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                                      Do the computers and systems you work on actually make your company, your country, the world in general better? Or do they just keep you employed and allow other hardware and software to be bought thus keeping others employed? The company I work for is 160 years old this year, they still do the same thing. Computers and computer systems are a fairly recent thing in comparison. Do they aid the company in fulfilling its aims in anyway? Or do they just keep loads of people employed whilst actually achieving no real benefit. What is the point of you?

                                      “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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                                      PIEBALDconsult
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                                      ChrisElston wrote:

                                      The company I work for is 160 years old this year

                                      Perhaps we work for the same company. :cool: My current job is mainly concerned with using computers to keep track of the other computers in the enterprise. :sigh:

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                                        Bravo. I know you can't see this, but I'm stood up and saluting you right now. :-D

                                        “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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                                        Roger Wright
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                                        Thanks, Chris... It's nice to be appreciated! :-D

                                        Will Rogers never met me.

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                                          Do the computers and systems you work on actually make your company, your country, the world in general better? Or do they just keep you employed and allow other hardware and software to be bought thus keeping others employed? The company I work for is 160 years old this year, they still do the same thing. Computers and computer systems are a fairly recent thing in comparison. Do they aid the company in fulfilling its aims in anyway? Or do they just keep loads of people employed whilst actually achieving no real benefit. What is the point of you?

                                          “I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks

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                                          Tim Groven
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                                          About two years ago I started working for a non-profit healthcare company. I love how little money we keep compared to for profits. It's fulfilling, and everything we do makes the customer facing units' jobs easier, so they can spend more time on members, and less on the systems.

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