1984
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Just visiting the movie - very disturbing ... The beginning remembered me on Nazi-German, i.e. NSDAP, People following the Führer without questions, but then I discovered more similarities with GB and USA. What's your thoughts about it ?
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Just visiting the movie - very disturbing ... The beginning remembered me on Nazi-German, i.e. NSDAP, People following the Führer without questions, but then I discovered more similarities with GB and USA. What's your thoughts about it ?
Read the book. It is much better. All Orwell got wrong was the year.
Chill _Maxxx_
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Just visiting the movie - very disturbing ... The beginning remembered me on Nazi-German, i.e. NSDAP, People following the Führer without questions, but then I discovered more similarities with GB and USA. What's your thoughts about it ?
I think there are many parallels to Emmanuel Goldstein being cooked up on a daily basis to justify wars etc.(better let that skip off the surface of the water as it's a tad political). Orwell might have been pessimistic but he definitely was on to something with regards to group behaviour and control. Christopher Hitchens explained when he visited North Korea he was warned that it would be like George Orwell's 1984, Hitchens then went to on to say that it was not so much that it was like 1984 - he said North Korea is 1984.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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Read the book. It is much better. All Orwell got wrong was the year.
Chill _Maxxx_
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easierI heard '1984' was just an anagram for the Publishing year - 1948 But you're right, as almost always, the book is much worthier than a film, what's obviously, 'cause you can't shed much light on the background in a film - it would be too time-consuming
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Just visiting the movie - very disturbing ... The beginning remembered me on Nazi-German, i.e. NSDAP, People following the Führer without questions, but then I discovered more similarities with GB and USA. What's your thoughts about it ?
It's the first film I remember watching as a child with my parents and being embarrassed by the nudity. We watched latet at school and our teacher, a massive prude who was later ordained, left the room at the rude bits. As others have sais, read the book, so much better.
“I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks
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Just visiting the movie - very disturbing ... The beginning remembered me on Nazi-German, i.e. NSDAP, People following the Führer without questions, but then I discovered more similarities with GB and USA. What's your thoughts about it ?
Eric Blair, who wrote under the name George Orwell was a former member of the Millner society, a neo feudalist secret society somewhat similar to the Nazi Thule society but less mystical. The Millner group had almost succeeded in taking over the British government in the 1910's using money from its founder Cecil Rhodes vast estate, with a view to using the British Empire as a vehicle for their own private enrichment. At one point they had 5 members in the cabinet. Orwell understood their plans but was probably unaware that after Word War One they abandoned the British Empire as their vehicle of choice and 'sold out' to a like minded group of Americans who had recently succeeded in carrying out the silent private takeover of the US dollar and by extension the US federal government. The deal was brokered in the back rooms of the Versaille conference by a Colonel House who was Woodrow Wilson's equivalent of Carl Rove or Peter Mandleson only scarier. The same US group part funded Adolf Hitler's rise to power (George Bush's uncle was the bag man) and tried unsuccessfully to assassinate FDR. He sought to cripple them financially by making them pay for a large proportion of the Marshall plan to repair Europe after the Second World War. They turned the tables after FDR's death by employing Jean Monnet, a French spy and former bureaucrat who designed the EU as a synthesis of faschism and communism, to use embezzled money from the Marshal plan to fund the setting up of the EU, the Anglo American Bilderberg group to disseminate their policy agenda and later groups like the Pinnay Circle to neutralize the power of the RC church in Europe and hijack various national security agencies especially the French equivalent of MI6. (DGCF?) Today the inner core of this group has sufficient power to get laws they have written passed without scrutiny in the USA, Australia, UK, almost all the countries of Europe and maybe a dozen other countries scattered around the world within a few weeks of one another as they demonstrated with the 'Civil Contingencies Act' The wealth they control is estimated to be equivalent to about 50% of all valued assets in existence and they have no accountability for their actions. Is this the plot of a really bad novel or in fact the true history of the 20th century? I'll let you do the research and decide for yourself. :)
"The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)
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Eric Blair, who wrote under the name George Orwell was a former member of the Millner society, a neo feudalist secret society somewhat similar to the Nazi Thule society but less mystical. The Millner group had almost succeeded in taking over the British government in the 1910's using money from its founder Cecil Rhodes vast estate, with a view to using the British Empire as a vehicle for their own private enrichment. At one point they had 5 members in the cabinet. Orwell understood their plans but was probably unaware that after Word War One they abandoned the British Empire as their vehicle of choice and 'sold out' to a like minded group of Americans who had recently succeeded in carrying out the silent private takeover of the US dollar and by extension the US federal government. The deal was brokered in the back rooms of the Versaille conference by a Colonel House who was Woodrow Wilson's equivalent of Carl Rove or Peter Mandleson only scarier. The same US group part funded Adolf Hitler's rise to power (George Bush's uncle was the bag man) and tried unsuccessfully to assassinate FDR. He sought to cripple them financially by making them pay for a large proportion of the Marshall plan to repair Europe after the Second World War. They turned the tables after FDR's death by employing Jean Monnet, a French spy and former bureaucrat who designed the EU as a synthesis of faschism and communism, to use embezzled money from the Marshal plan to fund the setting up of the EU, the Anglo American Bilderberg group to disseminate their policy agenda and later groups like the Pinnay Circle to neutralize the power of the RC church in Europe and hijack various national security agencies especially the French equivalent of MI6. (DGCF?) Today the inner core of this group has sufficient power to get laws they have written passed without scrutiny in the USA, Australia, UK, almost all the countries of Europe and maybe a dozen other countries scattered around the world within a few weeks of one another as they demonstrated with the 'Civil Contingencies Act' The wealth they control is estimated to be equivalent to about 50% of all valued assets in existence and they have no accountability for their actions. Is this the plot of a really bad novel or in fact the true history of the 20th century? I'll let you do the research and decide for yourself. :)
"The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)
Might need a few citations if you want to put it on Wikipedia, but a fun read.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Eric Blair, who wrote under the name George Orwell was a former member of the Millner society, a neo feudalist secret society somewhat similar to the Nazi Thule society but less mystical. The Millner group had almost succeeded in taking over the British government in the 1910's using money from its founder Cecil Rhodes vast estate, with a view to using the British Empire as a vehicle for their own private enrichment. At one point they had 5 members in the cabinet. Orwell understood their plans but was probably unaware that after Word War One they abandoned the British Empire as their vehicle of choice and 'sold out' to a like minded group of Americans who had recently succeeded in carrying out the silent private takeover of the US dollar and by extension the US federal government. The deal was brokered in the back rooms of the Versaille conference by a Colonel House who was Woodrow Wilson's equivalent of Carl Rove or Peter Mandleson only scarier. The same US group part funded Adolf Hitler's rise to power (George Bush's uncle was the bag man) and tried unsuccessfully to assassinate FDR. He sought to cripple them financially by making them pay for a large proportion of the Marshall plan to repair Europe after the Second World War. They turned the tables after FDR's death by employing Jean Monnet, a French spy and former bureaucrat who designed the EU as a synthesis of faschism and communism, to use embezzled money from the Marshal plan to fund the setting up of the EU, the Anglo American Bilderberg group to disseminate their policy agenda and later groups like the Pinnay Circle to neutralize the power of the RC church in Europe and hijack various national security agencies especially the French equivalent of MI6. (DGCF?) Today the inner core of this group has sufficient power to get laws they have written passed without scrutiny in the USA, Australia, UK, almost all the countries of Europe and maybe a dozen other countries scattered around the world within a few weeks of one another as they demonstrated with the 'Civil Contingencies Act' The wealth they control is estimated to be equivalent to about 50% of all valued assets in existence and they have no accountability for their actions. Is this the plot of a really bad novel or in fact the true history of the 20th century? I'll let you do the research and decide for yourself. :)
"The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)
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