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  • D Dalek Dave

    Before the lightbulb was invented (And not by Edison), how did you know when someone had a good idea?

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    Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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    they used the exclamation mark, dont you know your history sheesh who did invent the light bulb? (I know it wasn't the crook Edison)

    You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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    • B Bergholt Stuttley Johnson

      they used the exclamation mark, dont you know your history sheesh who did invent the light bulb? (I know it wasn't the crook Edison)

      You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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      Dalek Dave
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      Swann?

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      • D Dalek Dave

        Swann?

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        Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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        Nope (and he never made such a claim unlike Edison) Swann deveoped the vaccum process that made then last but he himself said that the basic idea had been arround for years

        You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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        • B Bergholt Stuttley Johnson

          Nope (and he never made such a claim unlike Edison) Swann deveoped the vaccum process that made then last but he himself said that the basic idea had been arround for years

          You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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          Dalek Dave
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          Tesla then?

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          • D Dalek Dave

            Before the lightbulb was invented (And not by Edison), how did you know when someone had a good idea?

            --------------------------------- Obscurum per obscurius. Ad astra per alas porci. Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur.

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            Mark_Wallace
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            Fork 'andles.

            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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            • M Mark_Wallace

              Fork 'andles.

              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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              Dalek Dave
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              Boom tish

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              • D Dalek Dave

                Tesla then?

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                Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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                don't know thats why I asked

                You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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                • D Dalek Dave

                  Tesla then?

                  --------------------------------- Obscurum per obscurius. Ad astra per alas porci. Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur.

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                  Nicholas Marty
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                  I don't think it was Tesla. I think there were multiple inventors who "invented" the lightbulb before. Edison was mereley the first to put the invention to some use. From todays perspective it might be that Edison just claimed to be the inventor so that he could claim patent rights on it ;P

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                  • R Rob Philpott

                    I've moaned about this before but once again have just faced the challenge of buying a lightbulb. All I wanted was a 40W candle bulb with a small screw thread on it. Possible? Sadly not thanks to our EU friends. The 'alternative' is a halogen thing rated at 18W but which apparently throws out the equivalent of 28W (or something like that). If UKIP have a policy on returning proper lightbulbs, that's it I'm convinced, they can have my vote.

                    Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                    Corporal Agarn
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                    For light compare lumems[^]. Different 40W bulbs will produce different amounts of light. That said here in the colonies we have a similar ban. Now instead of wasting energy, we are polluting with mercury and other things using the CFL[^] bulbs that do not last as long as we have been told. By the way LEDs do a good job of dimming. I just installed a spot light (yes I know you want candle) that stays dim until someone walks by when it goes to full on.

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                    • D Dalek Dave

                      Tesla then?

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                      AlexCode
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                      According to "the web" was Humphry Davy... :)

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                      • R Rob Philpott

                        There weren't any LED equivalents, and I need them dimmable so I doubt that's supported anyway. I have no objection to saving energy, but the way its seems to be thrust upon us is by making us live in a darker world. LED bulbs do seem to be getting better, but surely they emit a distinct amount of very fixed wavelength light, not the broad spectrum you'd get from an incandescent bulb. A bit like fluorescent bulbs. One of those over a mirror can convince anyone they're one step away from a corpse.

                        Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                        Rob Philpott wrote:

                        LED bulbs do seem to be getting better, but surely they emit a distinct amount of very fixed wavelength light, not the broad spectrum you'd get from an incandescent bulb. A bit like fluorescent bulbs

                        That's only true of really cheap bulbs or those intended as outdoor insecurity lights, etc. Like CFLs or many incandescents (to change the color temperature ex 'daylight' bulbs) good residential LED bulbs use phosphor coatings to convert the light from the LEDs into a broad spectrum similar to natural sunlight. Aside from a spike in the blue part of the curve where light not captured/reemitted by the phosphors gets out you'll get something that looks a lot like the blackbody curve of sunlight; they're much better than CFLs in that regard (CFLs are much spikier); the color balance won't be the same as with most incandescent because their black body curves are for much cooler temperatures than the sun meaning they peak in the IR not the yellow range. This article from last year's Popular Mechanics[^] has test results from about a dozen and a half bulbs of different types; on the bulb slides you can see spectral curves

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                        • R Rob Philpott

                          I've moaned about this before but once again have just faced the challenge of buying a lightbulb. All I wanted was a 40W candle bulb with a small screw thread on it. Possible? Sadly not thanks to our EU friends. The 'alternative' is a halogen thing rated at 18W but which apparently throws out the equivalent of 28W (or something like that). If UKIP have a policy on returning proper lightbulbs, that's it I'm convinced, they can have my vote.

                          Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                          GenJerDan
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                          Time to start a new business: Re-tungstening burned out bulbs. Hmmm...

                          YouTube and My Mu[sic], Films and Windows Programs, etc.

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                          • G GenJerDan

                            Time to start a new business: Re-tungstening burned out bulbs. Hmmm...

                            YouTube and My Mu[sic], Films and Windows Programs, etc.

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                            Rob Philpott
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                            That's an interesting idea. I don't know how they do it, but the bulbs you get on Christmas Trees short-circuit when they blow so that the others stay on. Perhaps you could use that technology to switch to a second/third/fourth filament when one blows. I'm off to the patent office.

                            Regards, Rob Philpott.

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