DashCam
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wizardzz wrote:
A man in a car, that did not witness what happened, immediately started defending the biker.
You should've told this guy to elephant off, and then if he persisted, kicked his car and asked him why he just hit a pedestrian.
The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin
Colin Mullikin wrote:
kicked his car and asked him why he just hit a pedestrian
I like your style :)
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It would have at least caught the last 2 bike incidents. The last one cost me the $500 deductible (new windshield, dent removals). I want a dashcam that keeps rolling if the key is in the ignition, maybe only saves the last 30 minutes? I'm not as concerned with angles, etc, the camera would have documented where I was and that I was stopped when impact occurred. The impact rocked the car both times. In this town, bikers don't follow traffic laws at all, stop lights and signs are completely ignored, I feel like I should take some minor step to give myself an advantage in case of litigation.
Yeah, they drive like idiots here too... you'd figure with all the accidents they'd have cops start ticketing them for not following the rules of the road.
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wizardzz wrote:
A man in a car, that did not witness what happened, immediately started defending the biker.
People reflexively defend the weaker party regardless of whether or not it makes sense. I pretty much hate all cyclists. But then I'm not into viewing people's sweaty, spandex laden asses at eye level every time I commute. Go save the planet on your own time.
MehGerbil wrote:
reflexively
And on the embellishment note, but maintaining non-fictionality, how is it that YOU purportedly know the content of the samaritan's vidi? The logic of you're observation would be ripped to shreds on cross. That smells of subpoena butterflies. Go get yourself a glass bead and lead window ornament hobby kit. It's time to stick with suckers on the familyroom window some telltale signs of creativity. Maybe a "hate that" spelled out in orange. Or something of dis nature.
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wizardzz wrote:
A man in a car, that did not witness what happened, immediately started defending the biker.
People reflexively defend the weaker party regardless of whether or not it makes sense. I pretty much hate all cyclists. But then I'm not into viewing people's sweaty, spandex laden asses at eye level every time I commute. Go save the planet on your own time.
MehGerbil wrote:
I'm not into viewing people's sweaty, spandex laden asses at eye level every time I commute. Go save the planet on your own time
I'm not saving the planet. I'm exercising my right to use the road, just as you are. If you're driving so that you can see my ass is sweating you're driving too frigging close!
Software Zen:
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MehGerbil wrote:
I'm not into viewing people's sweaty, spandex laden asses at eye level every time I commute. Go save the planet on your own time
I'm not saving the planet. I'm exercising my right to use the road, just as you are. If you're driving so that you can see my ass is sweating you're driving too frigging close!
Software Zen:
delete this;I do believe this is unresolvable, there are bad/inconsiderate arseholes driving cars and there cyclists who are lunatics, it is an unholy mix and inevitably the cyclist comes out 2nd best. Pumps up the angst of those on both sides, somewhat like religious wars or MS/Apple but with rather more palpable consequences.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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wizardzz wrote:
A man in a car, that did not witness what happened, immediately started defending the biker.
You should've told this guy to elephant off, and then if he persisted, kicked his car and asked him why he just hit a pedestrian.
The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin
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I do believe this is unresolvable, there are bad/inconsiderate arseholes driving cars and there cyclists who are lunatics, it is an unholy mix and inevitably the cyclist comes out 2nd best. Pumps up the angst of those on both sides, somewhat like religious wars or MS/Apple but with rather more palpable consequences.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
Most cyclists I know do a pretty good job of obeying the traffic laws. I ride defensively, staying to the right of the lane unless I'm making a turn, in which case I take the lane. I signal my turns. I don't run stop signs or lights. That said, several times a season I find myself in situations with motor vehicles that are caused by over-aggressive or careless drivers. I've been honked at, cursed, and nearly hit more times than I can count. I've been told I had no right to be on the road "since I didn't pay taxes" :rolleyes:. I've been swept into a ditch by a rear-view mirror, when the driver was too busy masturbating her phone to pay attention. You know what really, really grates? The fact that an intoxicated driver who kills a cyclist typically receives less than a year of prison time as a sentence.
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So, this weekend, I pulled over in my wife's vehicle in a parking lane. About 5 seconds after I stopped, I heard a thump, then saw a man going flying by my window and then he bounced off the front the vehicle. I was parked, he was on a bike, he hit my parked car. This is the second time in my life a biker has hit my stopped car. Anyways, got out to see if he was okay / inspect the car. It is a busy street, tons of bicycle traffic, and someone else on a bike saw it happen. He immediately went over to the guy, picked up his bike, asked if he could get up. The man couldn't. The witness immediately asked the man if he was drunk. He wasn't hurt, his bike was fine, he was apparently an idiot though. Full cycling gear, gloves, rear view mirror attached to his helmet, etc. He kept asking where Broadway was, which is a street. Then, he left. He damaged our car (scratch and dent), and left. I couldn't exactly pursue him, as I am on crutches. The witness at least convinced him not to ride anymore, that he should walk his bike home (I think this witness saw him riding erratically prior to the incident.) A man in a car, that did not witness what happened, immediately started defending the biker. Why do people who don't even witness the accident jump in to place blame (always against the person in the car, never the biker)? I need a dashboard camera to defend myself. If the man injured himself, I would likely be subject to a ridiculous lawsuit. So, any suggestions?
Because the car driver is almost invariably at fault, in such cases. The "I'm in a car, so I'm more important than you! When I break rules, you have to get out of my way! If you don't do things the way I say you should do them, I'll hit you!" fascism runs rampant on the roads. If you're wrongly berated, in this case, then you've just become an indirect victim of bad drivers.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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MehGerbil wrote:
reflexively
And on the embellishment note, but maintaining non-fictionality, how is it that YOU purportedly know the content of the samaritan's vidi? The logic of you're observation would be ripped to shreds on cross. That smells of subpoena butterflies. Go get yourself a glass bead and lead window ornament hobby kit. It's time to stick with suckers on the familyroom window some telltale signs of creativity. Maybe a "hate that" spelled out in orange. Or something of dis nature.
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Most cyclists I know do a pretty good job of obeying the traffic laws. I ride defensively, staying to the right of the lane unless I'm making a turn, in which case I take the lane. I signal my turns. I don't run stop signs or lights. That said, several times a season I find myself in situations with motor vehicles that are caused by over-aggressive or careless drivers. I've been honked at, cursed, and nearly hit more times than I can count. I've been told I had no right to be on the road "since I didn't pay taxes" :rolleyes:. I've been swept into a ditch by a rear-view mirror, when the driver was too busy masturbating her phone to pay attention. You know what really, really grates? The fact that an intoxicated driver who kills a cyclist typically receives less than a year of prison time as a sentence.
Software Zen:
delete this;It really isn't the cyclist's fault or driver's fault. It is ridiculous to place a two ton vehicle on the same path as a 30 lb. vehicle. This goes back to a poor decision made decades ago to make our cities car friendly but not pedestrian friendly. They really should start moving cars out of the cities altogether - a decades long process - but where we need to go.
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Because the car driver is almost invariably at fault, in such cases. The "I'm in a car, so I'm more important than you! When I break rules, you have to get out of my way! If you don't do things the way I say you should do them, I'll hit you!" fascism runs rampant on the roads. If you're wrongly berated, in this case, then you've just become an indirect victim of bad drivers.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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You'd better get your skates on, then.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I tried the lead window thing. I couldn't decide if I wanted the message readable from the inside or the outside. I gave up in frustration.
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Dash cam might free you of liability when it captures the right thing... but you'd have to have it on all the time and running plus have multiple viewing angles. Since you were parked, what are the odds your camera would be running? I guess what I'm getting at is you'll never be able to completely avoid jackasses (or have a camera around)...
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or have a camera around
email Google they probably have it on camera
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.